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Post by craydarr on Jan 18, 2020 11:27:00 GMT
Even then he must have been struggling, because those vocals are 100% overdubbed! When he sings the line "Oh And Time Is Always Passing By", he pulls away from the mic but can still be heard clearly... rookie mistake right there. I'm pretty sure his vocals for Twenty Wild Horses are overdubbed also. The delay on the vocals gives away the poor mixing done to try and blend the overdubs. I remember at the time it was mentioned that Francis was completely unhappy with his overall performance and in doubt whether he should release it at all. So the overdubs were done (obviously quite a few) and that made him change his mind. Still he never was happy how everything went, obviously. There are other performances from the solo tours on yt without any overdubbing .. I was there that night they filmed the dvd and he really cocked up the vocals to Tallulah, so I was most surprised when I saw the dvd and they were perfect 🙂
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 18, 2020 17:37:19 GMT
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Post by phonoline on Jan 20, 2020 19:32:43 GMT
I think the deluxe edition of RTYD is particularly disappointing. This is not something for the mass, the label knows this is most possibly for fans only. So, while it's great that they added amazing tracks like Better Times or Heavy Daze to the package - once heavily sought by fans during the 90s and 00s - it's seriously disappointing that you just get what is already pretty much known to hardcore fans plus an amazingly boring setlist on the 3rd disc with no original RTYD material whatsoever (if you spare out the covers LWT and TPOL and the little joke of the title (studio) track being the intro for the show). I got my 1991 CD, most of the 2nd disc on bootlegs or singles, in great sound, and bits here and there from the "Live Event" which I don't really need on CD anyway. Why are there no outtakes? No proper live versions of One Man Band and No Problems? They played these back then, you can't tell me there's not a single soundboard recording of any of those 90/91/92-shows. Maybe instead of the 3rd CD a Blu-ray from the documentary? The Butlin's 1990 show or any other proper Soundboard recording from that tour?
I don't get this.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 20, 2020 21:47:36 GMT
I think the deluxe edition of RTYD is particularly disappointing. This is not something for the mass, the label knows this is most possibly for fans only. So, while it's great that they added amazing tracks like Better Times or Heavy Daze to the package - once heavily sought by fans during the 90s and 00s - it's seriously disappointing that you just get what is already pretty much known to hardcore fans plus an amazingly boring setlist on the 3rd disc with no original RTYD material whatsoever (if you spare out the covers LWT and TPOL and the little joke of the title (studio) track being the intro for the show). I got my 1991 CD, most of the 2nd disc on bootlegs or singles, in great sound, and bits here and there from the "Live Event" which I don't really need on CD anyway. Why are there no outtakes? No proper live versions of One Man Band and No Problems? They played these back then, you can't tell me there's not a single soundboard recording of any of those 90/91/92-shows. Maybe instead of the 3rd CD a Blu-ray from the documentary? The Butlin's 1990 show or any other proper Soundboard recording from that tour? I don't get this. Because Quo didn't record a gig from every tour they went on. There are no professionally recorded versions of No Problems, Fakin' The Blues & Like A Zombie, like there are no professionally recorded versions of Queenie, which was performed for a very brief time in 1994. Professionally recorded versions of Rock 'til You Drop and One Man Band exist, just from a Thirsty Work show that would need to be remixed... They aren't going to remix a gig to slap it on a deluxe edition as Bonus Content as it's better off with a standalone release. Same goes for DVD's. Those would need extra work on them which would cost more money. DVD's are better for Boxset releases and not deluxe editions. There are no outtakes from the Rock 'til You Drop sessions, like at all. You don't have to buy it if you find the release that boring. The only recordings from 1990 - 1992 tours are; Berlin Weißensee Park, 17th June 1990 Knebworth Park, 30th June 1990 Butlins Minehead, 10th October 1990 [Only exists on VHS in unedited format. Missing completely] Wembley Arena, 16th December 1990 Sheffield Arena, 21st September 1991 Glasgow S.E.&C.C., 21st September 1991 Birmingham N.E.C., 21st September 1991 Wembley Arena, 21st September 1991 Sutton Park Birmingham, 30th August 1992 [Live Alive Quo]
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Post by mortified on Jan 21, 2020 8:21:11 GMT
I used to think that this live version of In My Chair was as good as they ever did. Hearing it again, I'm still convinced! Superb. If a little short. They could have dragged this out for another 15 minutes as far as I'm concerned
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Post by Dark on Jan 21, 2020 10:46:32 GMT
I used to think that this live version of In My Chair was as good as they ever did. Hearing it again, I'm still convinced! Superb. If a little short. They could have dragged this out for another 15 minutes as far as I'm concerned Yeah I remember really enjoying In My Chair from the VHS, not heard it in a while, so really looking forward to getting a CD copy of it, and the rest of the gig. Perfect Remedy & Rock 'Til You Drop are essential purchases for me, still undecided on Thirsty Work.
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Post by mortified on Jan 21, 2020 11:17:34 GMT
I notice that on the Amazon links for two of these releases ( Perfect Remedy and Thirsty Work) the reverse sleeve is pictured in Japanese. Or it's some sort of Japanese image at any rate. I'll not pre-order and will pick them up on or around release date from my local Fopp record store. Unless they don't have 'em of course. In which case I'll be encouraging the trend in online shopping at the expense of the, eh, High Street
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Post by phonoline on Jan 21, 2020 11:24:48 GMT
Because Quo didn't record a gig from every tour they went on. There are no professionally recorded versions of No Problems, Fakin' The Blues & Like A Zombie, like there are no professionally recorded versions of Queenie, which was performed for a very brief time in 1994. Professionally recorded versions of Rock 'til You Drop and One Man Band exist, just from a Thirsty Work show that would need to be remixed... They aren't going to remix a gig to slap it on a deluxe edition as Bonus Content as it's better off with a standalone release. Same goes for DVD's. Those would need extra work on them which would cost more money. DVD's are better for Boxset releases and not deluxe editions. There are no outtakes from the Rock 'til You Drop sessions, like at all. You don't have to buy it if you find the release that boring. The only recordings from 1990 - 1992 tours are; Berlin Weißensee Park, 17th June 1990 Knebworth Park, 30th June 1990 Butlins Minehead, 10th October 1990 [Only exists on VHS in unedited format. Missing completely] Wembley Arena, 16th December 1990 Sheffield Arena, 21st September 1991 Glasgow S.E.&C.C., 21st September 1991 Birmingham N.E.C., 21st September 1991 Wembley Arena, 21st September 1991 Sutton Park Birmingham, 30th August 1992 [Live Alive Quo]
Na, I work for the music industry, I kinda know how stuff like this works. I just don't believe there are no professionally recorded live versions of RTYD tracks out there (or raw, unmixed soundboard recordings). The label either doesn't want to spend anymore time and money on a re-release like this cos they know they sell around 2000/2500 of these, and that's it. Or the product manager just doesn't give a ..... because he/she has dozens of other products in the pipeline. That's often the case.
If they did OMB on the Thirsty Work tour, why not include it in this package? It's a great song from a great album, who cares if they played it live 3 years later?
And you can't tell me there are no outtakes from the RTYD studio sessions. They did not record this in one take, did they? They either lost all sessions or they just don't care.
Forget DVD, who still buys DVDs?? Instead of wasting time on the live event, a proper Blu-ray of the RTYD-documentary would have been a much more compelling addition to the package.
For an album that wildly underrated and misunderstood this re-release is the logical conclusion.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 21, 2020 11:37:15 GMT
Because Quo didn't record a gig from every tour they went on. There are no professionally recorded versions of No Problems, Fakin' The Blues & Like A Zombie, like there are no professionally recorded versions of Queenie, which was performed for a very brief time in 1994. Professionally recorded versions of Rock 'til You Drop and One Man Band exist, just from a Thirsty Work show that would need to be remixed... They aren't going to remix a gig to slap it on a deluxe edition as Bonus Content as it's better off with a standalone release. Same goes for DVD's. Those would need extra work on them which would cost more money. DVD's are better for Boxset releases and not deluxe editions. There are no outtakes from the Rock 'til You Drop sessions, like at all. You don't have to buy it if you find the release that boring. The only recordings from 1990 - 1992 tours are; Berlin Weißensee Park, 17th June 1990 Knebworth Park, 30th June 1990 Butlins Minehead, 10th October 1990 [Only exists on VHS in unedited format. Missing completely] Wembley Arena, 16th December 1990 Sheffield Arena, 21st September 1991 Glasgow S.E.&C.C., 21st September 1991 Birmingham N.E.C., 21st September 1991 Wembley Arena, 21st September 1991 Sutton Park Birmingham, 30th August 1992 [Live Alive Quo]
Na, I work for the music industry, I kinda know how stuff like this works. I just don't believe there are no professionally recorded live versions of RTYD tracks out there (or raw, unmixed soundboard recordings). The label either doesn't want to spend anymore time and money on a re-release like this cos they know they sell around 2000/2500 of these, and that's it. Or the product manager just doesn't give a ..... because he/she has dozens of other products in the pipeline. That's often the case.
If they did OMB on the Thirsty Work tour, why not include it in this package? It's a great song from a great album, who cares if they played it live 3 years later?
And you can't tell me there are no outtakes from the RTYD studio sessions. They did not record this in one take, did they? They either lost all sessions or they just don't care.
Forget DVD, who still buys DVDs?? Instead of wasting time on the live event, a proper Blu-ray of the RTYD-documentary would have been a much more compelling addition to the package.
For an album that wildly underrated and misunderstood this re-release is the logical conclusion.
I know what Quo have and dont have in their archives. There are no live recordings of any of the RTYD tracks listed, unless you wanted them to put bootleg audio on the release? And again like I said, they arent going to remix a gig just for it to be used as bonus material. There are no outtakes from the sessions in the Universal archives or in Rossi's personal archive. Missing? More than likely. This deluxe has been worked on for over a year which = more money spent on something they want done quickly and released on a yearly basis.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 21, 2020 11:42:19 GMT
We're actually lucky we get anything new from the RTYD Event gigs, as tbose reels arent in the archives... still need to ask about those tbh as I think the Glasgow reel exists
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Post by mortified on Jan 21, 2020 12:58:26 GMT
We're actually lucky we get anything new from the RTYD Event gigs, as tbose reels arent in the archives... still need to ask about those tbh as I think the Glasgow reel exists Meant to ask actually. Nazareth supported Quo at the Glasgow RTYD event. Were there support acts at the other three? If so, any idea who they were? Just curious. Incidentally, on the theme of some other posts in this thread, I get the impression that Quo (or their management or record label or whoever) have been extremely careless with a lot of material over the decades and either lost it or destroyed it. I only say that because of the serious absence of live footage and/or out-takes from, in particular, the 70's compared with other acts who are now delving into their archives because of a half decent new market for it. To openly admit that there are no live recordings of ANY song that hasn't been in the set regularly for 40 years or more (and of which we all have dozens of versions) is tantamount to confession to a crime! And the absence of live footage from the mid 70's is a huge hole in rock history in my view. Quite possibly the biggest as far as UK rock is concerned. Or am I over-stating it just a little?
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Post by phonoline on Jan 21, 2020 14:08:20 GMT
That depends on the quality of the bootleg. I think, most of this is disappointing. It reminds me of the re-releases by a famous canadian rock band I worked on years ago. No archive material for most of their 90s stuff whatsoever, no proper photos, no good live recordings, no outtakes, no gimmicks, not even the original artwork. As if just the studio recording still exists but nothing else. You don't have to keep all the bits and pieces piling up over the decades but you don't have to squander them, either.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 21, 2020 17:59:46 GMT
We're actually lucky we get anything new from the RTYD Event gigs, as tbose reels arent in the archives... still need to ask about those tbh as I think the Glasgow reel exists Meant to ask actually. Nazareth supported Quo at the Glasgow RTYD event. Were there support acts at the other three? If so, any idea who they were? Just curious. Incidentally, on the theme of some other posts in this thread, I get the impression that Quo (or their management or record label or whoever) have been extremely careless with a lot of material over the decades and either lost it or destroyed it. I only say that because of the serious absence of live footage and/or out-takes from, in particular, the 70's compared with other acts who are now delving into their archives because of a half decent new market for it. To openly admit that there are no live recordings of ANY song that hasn't been in the set regularly for 40 years or more (and of which we all have dozens of versions) is tantamount to confession to a crime! And the absence of live footage from the mid 70's is a huge hole in rock history in my view. Quite possibly the biggest as far as UK rock is concerned. Or am I over-stating it just a little? There are 9 unreleased gigs from the 70s. 4 from '75, 3 from '76 and Hammersmith Odeon 1979. Other than that Quo didnt film any gigs in the 70s as I dont think they could afford it. Colin Johnson mentioned he had to remortgage his house just to make sure he still had enough money to keep Quo going. And then by 1976 / 77 when the cash really started to flow, they were being ripped off and then Alan Crux was brought in and did even more damage. Tbh, in the end, Rossi kept a lot of the stuff at his house; reels, live footage etc... like the Milton Keynes gig. Its just a case of poor management and them flip flopping around from label to label, and labels going under and being bought out. Tapes not being properly labelled is another thing. Some stuff was kept by Quos management also which was passed down to Simon Porter. There's an acetate of 2 unreleased songs, but it would be really expensive to transfer them due to the age and state it's in. As for support acts. Sheffield I don't think there will have been one, and there wasn't at Wembley either as far as I know. They had music playing and competitions happening on stage. As well as a mexican wave in the crowd which you can see on the Channel 4 documentary. Probably just Glasgow and Brum had support acts. Not 100% on that though. cheers
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Jan 21, 2020 20:44:38 GMT
I don't remember a support act at Sheffield RTYD in 1991....but then again, I don't have a good memory!
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Post by mortified on Jan 22, 2020 5:46:34 GMT
Meant to ask actually. Nazareth supported Quo at the Glasgow RTYD event. Were there support acts at the other three? If so, any idea who they were? Just curious. Incidentally, on the theme of some other posts in this thread, I get the impression that Quo (or their management or record label or whoever) have been extremely careless with a lot of material over the decades and either lost it or destroyed it. I only say that because of the serious absence of live footage and/or out-takes from, in particular, the 70's compared with other acts who are now delving into their archives because of a half decent new market for it. To openly admit that there are no live recordings of ANY song that hasn't been in the set regularly for 40 years or more (and of which we all have dozens of versions) is tantamount to confession to a crime! And the absence of live footage from the mid 70's is a huge hole in rock history in my view. Quite possibly the biggest as far as UK rock is concerned. Or am I over-stating it just a little? There are 9 unreleased gigs from the 70s. 4 from '75, 3 from '76 and Hammersmith Odeon 1979. Other than that Quo didnt film any gigs in the 70s as I dont think they could afford it. Interesting. Those years would likely have had I Saw The Light, Nightride, Mad About The Boy, Rockers Rollin' and Oh, What A Night in the set. That's 5 off the top of my head that is. Which is the sort of thing I mean in terms of live songs. The lack of footage is a real shame. The small number of snippets we do have (Marquee, Empire Pool, Madrid) demonstrate how incredible the band were on stage at that time. Because even by the Charlie gig in '82, superb as they were, the 'choreography' had diminished by comparison to the mid 70's. But ta for the input, mate. Always appreciated
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 22, 2020 15:39:04 GMT
mortified no worries! Going to try and pump out loads of unreleased stuff in the next and final deluxe batch. Was hoping Don't Stop would get done as theres some outtakes and rehearsal stuff for that... but it isn't as Demon Music Group own that now. If you want, I'll drop you some of my new ideas for the final ones. Take care, QI
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Post by sqcollector on Jan 22, 2020 19:58:39 GMT
mortified no worries! Going to try and pump out loads of unreleased stuff in the next and final deluxe batch. Was hoping Don't Stop would get done as theres some outtakes and rehearsal stuff for that... but it isn't as Demon Music Group own that now. If you want, I'll drop you some of my new ideas for the final ones. Take care, QI That means no Deluxes for UTI nor TPAOY as well, right? So, what possible Deluxes could there be? LAQ, FITLC, HT and... Riffs? ISOTFC, QPQ and BQ were under Forth Chord/Edel/Demon/Eagle, if I got my info right. I'm curious about those ideas. What more is there in the vaults?
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 24, 2020 20:39:19 GMT
The Manchester United Singles, 'Come On You Reds' and 'We're Gonna Do It Again' have been removed from the final Deluxe Release of Thirsty Work.
Last track on Disc 2 is now the Live Version of Restless from the Royal Albert Hall, 30th March 1994 gig
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 24, 2020 20:41:54 GMT
mortified no worries! Going to try and pump out loads of unreleased stuff in the next and final deluxe batch. Was hoping Don't Stop would get done as theres some outtakes and rehearsal stuff for that... but it isn't as Demon Music Group own that now. If you want, I'll drop you some of my new ideas for the final ones. Take care, QI That means no Deluxes for UTI nor TPAOY as well, right? So, what possible Deluxes could there be? LAQ, FITLC, HT and... Riffs? ISOTFC, QPQ and BQ were under Forth Chord/Edel/Demon/Eagle, if I got my info right. I'm curious about those ideas. What more is there in the vaults? Deluxe's weren't planned for UTI and The Party Ain't Over Yet albums anyway, but yeah, Demon own those now as well as far as I know. Not too sure if they'll be doing anymore deluxe's now. They might be stopping at this current batch once it's released. This year's a busy one, and next year could be also
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Post by sqcollector on Jan 24, 2020 22:28:11 GMT
Deluxe's weren't planned for UTI and The Party Ain't Over Yet albums anyway, but yeah, Demon own those now as well as far as I know. Not too sure if they'll be doing anymore deluxe's now. They might be stopping at this current batch once it's released. This year's a busy one, and next year could be also Well, looking forward for some good quality compilations/anthologies of rare, unreleased stuff. Just hope it's decently mastered.
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Post by blueeyedladyrocks on Jan 28, 2020 9:40:02 GMT
QI - I assume that list is only the FM/SBD recordings from that period, not an exhaustive list of known boots from 90/92 ? I think the deluxe edition of RTYD is particularly disappointing. This is not something for the mass, the label knows this is most possibly for fans only. So, while it's great that they added amazing tracks like Better Times or Heavy Daze to the package - once heavily sought by fans during the 90s and 00s - it's seriously disappointing that you just get what is already pretty much known to hardcore fans plus an amazingly boring setlist on the 3rd disc with no original RTYD material whatsoever (if you spare out the covers LWT and TPOL and the little joke of the title (studio) track being the intro for the show). I got my 1991 CD, most of the 2nd disc on bootlegs or singles, in great sound, and bits here and there from the "Live Event" which I don't really need on CD anyway. Why are there no outtakes? No proper live versions of One Man Band and No Problems? They played these back then, you can't tell me there's not a single soundboard recording of any of those 90/91/92-shows. Maybe instead of the 3rd CD a Blu-ray from the documentary? The Butlin's 1990 show or any other proper Soundboard recording from that tour? I don't get this. Because Quo didn't record a gig from every tour they went on. There are no professionally recorded versions of No Problems, Fakin' The Blues & Like A Zombie, like there are no professionally recorded versions of Queenie, which was performed for a very brief time in 1994. Professionally recorded versions of Rock 'til You Drop and One Man Band exist, just from a Thirsty Work show that would need to be remixed... They aren't going to remix a gig to slap it on a deluxe edition as Bonus Content as it's better off with a standalone release. Same goes for DVD's. Those would need extra work on them which would cost more money. DVD's are better for Boxset releases and not deluxe editions. There are no outtakes from the Rock 'til You Drop sessions, like at all. You don't have to buy it if you find the release that boring. The only recordings from 1990 - 1992 tours are; Berlin Weißensee Park, 17th June 1990 Knebworth Park, 30th June 1990 Butlins Minehead, 10th October 1990 [Only exists on VHS in unedited format. Missing completely] Wembley Arena, 16th December 1990 Sheffield Arena, 21st September 1991 Glasgow S.E.&C.C., 21st September 1991 Birmingham N.E.C., 21st September 1991 Wembley Arena, 21st September 1991 Sutton Park Birmingham, 30th August 1992 [Live Alive Quo]
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 28, 2020 11:28:27 GMT
QI - I assume that list is only the FM/SBD recordings from that period, not an exhaustive list of known boots from 90/92 ? Because Quo didn't record a gig from every tour they went on. There are no professionally recorded versions of No Problems, Fakin' The Blues & Like A Zombie, like there are no professionally recorded versions of Queenie, which was performed for a very brief time in 1994. Professionally recorded versions of Rock 'til You Drop and One Man Band exist, just from a Thirsty Work show that would need to be remixed... They aren't going to remix a gig to slap it on a deluxe edition as Bonus Content as it's better off with a standalone release. Same goes for DVD's. Those would need extra work on them which would cost more money. DVD's are better for Boxset releases and not deluxe editions. There are no outtakes from the Rock 'til You Drop sessions, like at all. You don't have to buy it if you find the release that boring. The only recordings from 1990 - 1992 tours are; Berlin Weißensee Park, 17th June 1990 Knebworth Park, 30th June 1990 Butlins Minehead, 10th October 1990 [Only exists on VHS in unedited format. Missing completely] Wembley Arena, 16th December 1990 Sheffield Arena, 21st September 1991 Glasgow S.E.&C.C., 21st September 1991 Birmingham N.E.C., 21st September 1991 Wembley Arena, 21st September 1991 Sutton Park Birmingham, 30th August 1992 [Live Alive Quo] All master sources
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Post by frozenhero on Jan 30, 2020 14:28:33 GMT
Because Quo didn't record a gig from every tour they went on. There are no professionally recorded versions of No Problems, Fakin' The Blues & Like A Zombie, like there are no professionally recorded versions of Queenie, which was performed for a very brief time in 1994. Professionally recorded versions of Rock 'til You Drop and One Man Band exist, just from a Thirsty Work show that would need to be remixed... They aren't going to remix a gig to slap it on a deluxe edition as Bonus Content as it's better off with a standalone release. Same goes for DVD's. Those would need extra work on them which would cost more money. DVD's are better for Boxset releases and not deluxe editions. There are no outtakes from the Rock 'til You Drop sessions, like at all. You don't have to buy it if you find the release that boring. The only recordings from 1990 - 1992 tours are; Berlin Weißensee Park, 17th June 1990 Knebworth Park, 30th June 1990 Butlins Minehead, 10th October 1990 [Only exists on VHS in unedited format. Missing completely] Wembley Arena, 16th December 1990 Sheffield Arena, 21st September 1991 Glasgow S.E.&C.C., 21st September 1991 Birmingham N.E.C., 21st September 1991 Wembley Arena, 21st September 1991 Sutton Park Birmingham, 30th August 1992 [Live Alive Quo]
Na, I work for the music industry, I kinda know how stuff like this works. I just don't believe there are no professionally recorded live versions of RTYD tracks out there (or raw, unmixed soundboard recordings). The label either doesn't want to spend anymore time and money on a re-release like this cos they know they sell around 2000/2500 of these, and that's it. Or the product manager just doesn't give a ..... because he/she has dozens of other products in the pipeline. That's often the case.
If they did OMB on the Thirsty Work tour, why not include it in this package? It's a great song from a great album, who cares if they played it live 3 years later?
And you can't tell me there are no outtakes from the RTYD studio sessions. They did not record this in one take, did they? They either lost all sessions or they just don't care.
Forget DVD, who still buys DVDs?? Instead of wasting time on the live event, a proper Blu-ray of the RTYD-documentary would have been a much more compelling addition to the package.
For an album that wildly underrated and misunderstood this re-release is the logical conclusion.
Hi Alex I mentioned in my drafts that One Man Band and RTYD exist in good quality versions. Unfortunately, they settled on the other suggested recordings too soon, which turned out to be not high quality enough, and by that point there was nothing I could do because they didn't want to clear the disc again. Outtakes might exist but remember, the band recorded what could've been two albums at once. And Blu-Ray discs are even more expensive than DVDs, from a production and clearance (FSK...) point of view.
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Post by frozenhero on Jan 30, 2020 15:13:56 GMT
The Manchester United Singles, 'Come On You Reds' and 'We're Gonna Do It Again' have been removed from the final Deluxe Release of Thirsty Work. Last track on Disc 2 is now the Live Version of Restless from the Royal Albert Hall, 30th March 1994 gig Which is strangely enough credited as Wembley Arena on the packaging. I'd actually like that Royal Albert Hall gig to be included in full on Live Alive Quo, as it has both One Man Band and Rock Til You Drop. Either that or Timra 1996, which was heard and approved by the band.
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Post by Quoincidence on Mar 3, 2020 22:11:04 GMT
phonolineRecently come to find out that there are a few bits from a February 1991 session at Bray Studios that still exist along with another unreleased track. Would've actually been great additions for Disc 2 which is very bare bones, but it's too late now
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