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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 24, 2019 13:47:03 GMT
Rock Til You Drop, Deluxe Edition will hopefully be released before the end of the year.
3 disc set featuring the album, bonus tracks and live in concert from the Rock Til You Drop 4 day event.
Here's my post from the other side -
"Universal well and truly pulled it out of the bag this time with the Rock Til You Drop deluxe.
Listening to disc 3 featuring the Live Event Audio, and it must be straight from some master copies.
Mystery Medley [Sheffield Arena]
Rain [Sheffield Arena]
In The Army Now [Glasgow SECC] - [Will be using the Brum audio for the final release as far as I know]
Down Down [Glasgow SECC]
Roll Over Lay Down [Glasgow SECC]
Let's Work Together [Glasgow SECC]
Little Lady [Birmingham NEC]
Whatever You Want [Birmingham NEC]
Rockin' All Over The World [Wembley Arena]
Burning Bridges [Wembley Arena]
Bye Bye Johnny [Wembley Arena]
No Tarrant or Penguin Crew in site. Definitely going to be one of the BEST Deluxe releases I think, purely cause of this material alone."
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 26, 2019 23:25:11 GMT
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Post by mortified on Aug 27, 2019 4:47:30 GMT
A very interesting release  I notice on that clip you've put up that Rock 'til You Drop is played before it kicks into Down Down. Is that on the album? I also remember Let's Work Together from the Glasgow event because it's the one and only time I've ever heard them play it live (apart from one TOTP performance that is). I'm presuming (although I have no idea why given past form) that songs like Mysteries From The Ball, Heavy Daze and Better Times will be on disc 2. As a side issue, are they missing out Perfect Remedy as a deluxe release altogether? Or are you just concentrating on the good stuff?  Cheers for the info |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 27, 2019 7:33:31 GMT
A very interesting release I notice on that clip you've put up that Rock 'til You Drop is played before it kicks into Down Down. Is that on the album? I also remember Let's Work Together from the Glasgow event because it's the one and only time I've ever heard them play it live (apart from one TOTP performance that is). I'm presuming (although I have no idea why given past form) that songs like Mysteries From The Ball, Heavy Daze and Better Times will be on disc 2. As a side issue, are they missing out Perfect Remedy as a deluxe release altogether? Or are you just concentrating on the good stuff? Cheers for the info Yes, Rock 'Til You Drop is included as it's the live intro from the Glasgow gig. Forgot to add it to the list in the OP. Let's Work Together was played at the Glasgow and Birmingham gigs on the day, and it stayed in the live set for a very short while afterwards. The Price Of Love was also played at the Sheffield gig, and it's the only time it was ever played live in full, as opposed to being part of the medley. Mysteries From The Ball, Heavy Daze and Better Times are all on Disc 2 along with plenty of other tracks. Perfect Remedy still hasn't been cleared, but I think Thirsty Work has... so really I should have titled the thread, 2020 Deluxe Editions Take Care, QI |
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Post by mortified on Aug 27, 2019 7:52:52 GMT
A very interesting release I notice on that clip you've put up that Rock 'til You Drop is played before it kicks into Down Down. Is that on the album? I also remember Let's Work Together from the Glasgow event because it's the one and only time I've ever heard them play it live (apart from one TOTP performance that is). I'm presuming (although I have no idea why given past form) that songs like Mysteries From The Ball, Heavy Daze and Better Times will be on disc 2. As a side issue, are they missing out Perfect Remedy as a deluxe release altogether? Or are you just concentrating on the good stuff? Cheers for the info Yes, Rock 'Til You Drop is included as it's the live intro from the Glasgow gig. Forgot to add it to the list in the OP. Let's Work Together was played at the Glasgow and Birmingham gigs on the day, and it stayed in the live set for a very short while afterwards. The Price Of Love was also played at the Sheffield gig, and it's the only time it was ever played live in full, as opposed to being part of the medley. Mysteries From The Ball, Heavy Daze and Better Times are all on Disc 2 along with plenty of other tracks. Perfect Remedy still hasn't been cleared, but I think Thirsty Work has... so really I should have titled the thread, 2020 Deluxe Editions Take Care, QI Gulp Although, to be fair, it was a pretty good live set on that tour. We live in hope. I wonder if Perfect Remedy is likely to have NEC material from that year. It certainly should be available, although I imagine ownership might be an issue. Cheers, mate |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 27, 2019 8:12:35 GMT
Yes, Rock 'Til You Drop is included as it's the live intro from the Glasgow gig. Forgot to add it to the list in the OP. Let's Work Together was played at the Glasgow and Birmingham gigs on the day, and it stayed in the live set for a very short while afterwards. The Price Of Love was also played at the Sheffield gig, and it's the only time it was ever played live in full, as opposed to being part of the medley. Mysteries From The Ball, Heavy Daze and Better Times are all on Disc 2 along with plenty of other tracks. Perfect Remedy still hasn't been cleared, but I think Thirsty Work has... so really I should have titled the thread, 2020 Deluxe Editions Take Care, QI Gulp Although, to be fair, it was a pretty good live set on that tour. We live in hope. I wonder if Perfect Remedy is likely to have NEC material from that year. It certainly should be available, although I imagine ownership might be an issue. Cheers, mate Won't be any rights issue with the audio as that was recorded by the band, on both nights... and tbh, same goes for the footage, as the company it was released under at the time has long since been taken over by Universal  No worries Cheers |
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 27, 2019 17:43:25 GMT
From what I heard the BBC tracks (Steve Wright show) that I had included in my preliminary tracklist were an issue. Not sure if that's the only issue, as there's enough material to fill up 3 CDs even without those tracks.
Thirsty Work was a relatively 'safe' list I put together, so perhaps will be less essential. But we'll see.
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Post by mortified on Aug 28, 2019 7:24:00 GMT
From what I heard the BBC tracks (Ken Bruce show) that I had included in my preliminary tracklist were an issue. Not sure if that's the only issue, as there's enough material to fill up 3 CDs even without those tracks. Thirsty Work was a relatively 'safe' list I put together, so perhaps will be less essential. But we'll see. Loads of extra tracks that backed up the various singles. I think only 2 out of about 7 didn't make Tim Turan's remaster ( And I Do and Democracy). But seeing they were all pretty bollox, I never really gave a to$$. But I've mellowed |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 28, 2019 7:48:32 GMT
From what I heard the BBC tracks (Ken Bruce show) that I had included in my preliminary tracklist were an issue. Not sure if that's the only issue, as there's enough material to fill up 3 CDs even without those tracks. Thirsty Work was a relatively 'safe' list I put together, so perhaps will be less essential. But we'll see. Do you mean the Steve Wright interview from 30th November 1989? Yeah, that's been completely dropped from the release / tracklisting, sadly. |
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Post by mortified on Aug 28, 2019 8:14:23 GMT
From what I heard the BBC tracks (Ken Bruce show) that I had included in my preliminary tracklist were an issue. Not sure if that's the only issue, as there's enough material to fill up 3 CDs even without those tracks. Thirsty Work was a relatively 'safe' list I put together, so perhaps will be less essential. But we'll see. Do you mean the Steve Wright interview from 30th November 1989? Yeah, that's been completely dropped from the release / tracklisting, sadly. Is that the one included in the BBC live box? If so, at least we have it. If not, then I am crestfallen  |
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Post by Dark on Aug 28, 2019 9:14:20 GMT
Do you mean the Steve Wright interview from 30th November 1989? Yeah, that's been completely dropped from the release / tracklisting, sadly. Is that the one included in the BBC live box? If so, at least we have it. If not, then I am crestfallen Yeah have those songs from the Live boxset, so really no worries there. What I want with Perfect Remedy is the '89 NEC gig. I take it a deluxe edition of Live Alive Quo is not on the cards? |
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 28, 2019 9:29:10 GMT
Sorry, Steve Wright I meant, not Ken Bruce. What was I thinking!!
Thing was, the BBC set doesn't include that full session, so I thought it would be nice to include that. But with the NEC gig there's enough material to deliver the set without the BBC session.
Live Alive Quo I'd like to see expanded into a box set, plenty of well-recorded material from the era could be added. The last three tracks on the album are from a full gig at Wembley and the tapes of that should still exist...
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Post by mortified on Aug 28, 2019 10:10:30 GMT
Sorry, Steve Wright I meant, not Ken Bruce. What was I thinking!! Thing was, the BBC set doesn't include that full session, so I thought it would be nice to include that. But with the NEC gig there's enough material to deliver the set without the BBC session. Live Alive Quo I'd like to see expanded into a box set, plenty of well-recorded material from the era could be added. The last three tracks on the album are from a full gig at Wembley and the tapes of that should still exist... That's interesting. I never heard it go out live at the time. I only listened to the bootlegs and then the official BBC release, so I never knew there was more to it. |
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 28, 2019 10:54:27 GMT
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Aug 28, 2019 14:34:51 GMT
What would the chances in the future of the entire footage of the nec 89 gig being released?
At the time I couldn’t understand the edits as it’s not as if two hour video tapes did t exist!!
I’d love to see the breakdown in Rain, Roadhouse Blues, Rolling Home in the medley and the entire encore .
They could release via iTunes or streaming to save on distribution and production costs?
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 28, 2019 15:03:12 GMT
What would the chances in the future of the entire footage of the nec 89 gig being released? At the time I couldn’t understand the edits as it’s not as if two hour video tapes did t exist!! I’d love to see the breakdown in Rain, Roadhouse Blues, Rolling Home in the medley and the entire encore . They could release via iTunes or streaming to save on distribution and production costs? You might save production costs, but you'll also make less money that way... here's the thing: DVDs appended to CD deluxe editions seem out of the question now. But I still have hope that a separate DVD series could be released, perhaps with Eagle Records collaborating: - Live at the N.E.C. 1982 - End of the Road 1984 - Rockin' all over the Years at the N.E.C. 1989 - Rock 'Til You Drop Live Event 1991 And perhaps more. |
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Aug 28, 2019 15:38:15 GMT
What would the chances in the future of the entire footage of the nec 89 gig being released? At the time I couldn’t understand the edits as it’s not as if two hour video tapes did t exist!! I’d love to see the breakdown in Rain, Roadhouse Blues, Rolling Home in the medley and the entire encore . They could release via iTunes or streaming to save on distribution and production costs? You might save production costs, but you'll also make less money that way... here's the thing: DVDs appended to CD deluxe editions seem out of the question now. But I still have hope that a separate DVD series could be released, perhaps with Eagle Records collaborating: - Live at the N.E.C. 1982 - End of the Road 1984 - Rockin' all over the Years at the N.E.C. 1989 - Rock 'Til You Drop Live Event 1991 And perhaps more. Interesting. So, does the whole of the NEC 89 gig exist in the vaults ? Likewise with the Butilns gig- does the master of that exist , the entire gig, without edits , folk talking over songs and other footage over the top ? |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 28, 2019 17:51:30 GMT
You might save production costs, but you'll also make less money that way... here's the thing: DVDs appended to CD deluxe editions seem out of the question now. But I still have hope that a separate DVD series could be released, perhaps with Eagle Records collaborating: - Live at the N.E.C. 1982 - End of the Road 1984 - Rockin' all over the Years at the N.E.C. 1989 - Rock 'Til You Drop Live Event 1991 And perhaps more. Interesting. So, does the whole of the NEC 89 gig exist in the vaults ? Likewise with the Butilns gig- does the master of that exist , the entire gig, without edits , folk talking over songs and other footage over the top ? Birmingham, yes... Butlins, no... that only exists in VHS form these days without the edits. |
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Aug 28, 2019 18:56:26 GMT
Interesting. So, does the whole of the NEC 89 gig exist in the vaults ? Likewise with the Butilns gig- does the master of that exist , the entire gig, without edits , folk talking over songs and other footage over the top ? Birmingham, yes... Butlins, no... that only exists in VHS form these days without the edits. Interesting stuff. So, in theory though, if only the vhs exists without edits of Butlins, they could transfer it to DVD? What happened to the master footage? It’s great that NEC exists !! Like i say, a release of the whole gig, warts and all would be fantastic |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 28, 2019 19:12:23 GMT
Birmingham, yes... Butlins, no... that only exists in VHS form these days without the edits. Interesting stuff. So, in theory though, if only the vhs exists without edits of Butlins, they could transfer it to DVD? What happened to the master footage? It’s great that NEC exists !! Like i say, a release of the whole gig, warts and all would be fantastic They could, but it would only ever be a DVD release, whereas a lot of the other stuff could be SD Blu-Ray or fully enhanced Blu-Ray releases. Castle Music Pictures would have possibly had the master reel. The parent company of CMP was Sanctuary which then released the edited version on DVD, and Sanctuary is now owned by Universal. So whether the reels are completely missing, who knows. There should be the individual camera reels, vision mix edit done live on the day (which is the same with every gig that gets filmed) and then the final edit of the gig. There should also be the awful edited reel somewhere as well, but that's best off left alone Rain, on the Birmingham footage. cuts out shortly after the power goes out and then comes back in once Rain starts again. Cheers |
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Post by snakelady on Aug 29, 2019 5:56:03 GMT
Interesting stuff. So, in theory though, if only the vhs exists without edits of Butlins, they could transfer it to DVD? What happened to the master footage? It’s great that NEC exists !! Like i say, a release of the whole gig, warts and all would be fantastic They could, but it would only ever be a DVD release, whereas a lot of the other stuff could be SD Blu-Ray or fully enhanced Blu-Ray releases. Castle Music Pictures would have possibly had the master reel. The parent company of CMP was Sanctuary which then released the edited version on DVD, and Sanctuary is now owned by Universal. So whether the reels are completely missing, who knows. There should be the individual camera reels, vision mix edit done live on the day (which is the same with every gig that gets filmed) and then the final edit of the gig. There should also be the awful edited reel somewhere as well, but that's best off left alone Rain, on the Birmingham footage. cuts out shortly after the power goes out and then comes back in once Rain starts again. Cheers A series of live DVDs/bluerays now that would be great ! Got to admit I'm not interested in more audio versions of live gigs, no matter how epics they were or if they contain the one odd song rarely played. 99% of the gigs is simply the same songs I've already heard 100s of times live. What would be interesting would be watching gigs from different eras. Now I know that sadly only bad quality bootlegs from the 70s exist, but they'd still take you back - if only to the 80s or 90s. Is there a similar thing to the Beatclub appearance only from the mid-/late 70s ? Don't think I've ever seen something like it .. |
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Post by mortified on Aug 29, 2019 6:34:47 GMT
DVD's seem to be becoming a thing of the past. Music DVD's that is. Just gradually. I noticed the entire section in HMV had shrunk to almost nothing before they went out of business.
There are plenty music videos to download on iTunes and that seems to be where to find them these days. All we need is iTunes on our TV's and we can watch them in comfort just like a DVD. Of course, smart TV's have the YouTube facility so stuff can be watched on there already. I suspect that online streaming/downloading is the way forward with physical products gradually being phased out. You see so many people watching films etc. on their devices on buses and trains so music won't be any different.
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 29, 2019 9:26:53 GMT
DVD's seem to be becoming a thing of the past. Music DVD's that is. Just gradually. I noticed the entire section in HMV had shrunk to almost nothing before they went out of business. There are plenty music videos to download on iTunes and that seems to be where to find them these days. All we need is iTunes on our TV's and we can watch them in comfort just like a DVD. Of course, smart TV's have the YouTube facility so stuff can be watched on there already. I suspect that online streaming/downloading is the way forward with physical products gradually being phased out. You see so many people watching films etc. on their devices on buses and trains so music won't be any different. iTunes wouldn't even be a thought, in regards to only releasing archive concert footage on there. You've got to remember the cost of restoring these sorts of things. Tapes need to be digitised, enhanced / recoloured... the lot, and remixing the audio master reels to give the release a fresh mix. Profit has to made somewhere, and a digital only release would give them nothing back. Cheers |
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Post by mortified on Aug 29, 2019 10:12:57 GMT
DVD's seem to be becoming a thing of the past. Music DVD's that is. Just gradually. I noticed the entire section in HMV had shrunk to almost nothing before they went out of business. There are plenty music videos to download on iTunes and that seems to be where to find them these days. All we need is iTunes on our TV's and we can watch them in comfort just like a DVD. Of course, smart TV's have the YouTube facility so stuff can be watched on there already. I suspect that online streaming/downloading is the way forward with physical products gradually being phased out. You see so many people watching films etc. on their devices on buses and trains so music won't be any different. iTunes wouldn't even be a thought, in regards to only releasing archive concert footage on there. You've got to remember the cost of restoring these sorts of things. Tapes need to be digitised, enhanced / recoloured... the lot, and remixing the audio master reels to give the release a fresh mix. Profit has to made somewhere, and a digital only release would give them nothing back. Cheers I agree. There are Quo music videos on iTunes but only for individual songs; singles and the odd live performance. And one bizarrely called Forty Five Hundred Time - Live from Wembley 1974 when it is plainly the NEC in 1982  And the video quality is ropey to say the least. HD it isn't! I'm not aware of any full Quo concerts on there but a large number of artists have gigs and old DVD's on iTunes. Perhaps Quo could (should?) have their own YouTube channel. Not sure how that works but many artists do. I just think there is still a fair bit of stuff out there to be appreciated and ignoring it simply because it costs a bit seems to be short term thinking. I know the tendency is to concentrate on the here and now but the past is what got them there. I know. I'm just moaning. I'll go have another coffee |
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 29, 2019 10:45:39 GMT
iTunes wouldn't even be a thought, in regards to only releasing archive concert footage on there. You've got to remember the cost of restoring these sorts of things. Tapes need to be digitised, enhanced / recoloured... the lot, and remixing the audio master reels to give the release a fresh mix. Profit has to made somewhere, and a digital only release would give them nothing back. Cheers I agree. There are Quo music videos on iTunes but only for individual songs; singles and the odd live performance. And one bizarrely called Forty Five Hundred Time - Live from Wembley 1974 when it is plainly the NEC in 1982 And the video quality is ropey to say the least. HD it isn't! I'm not aware of any full Quo concerts on there but a large number of artists have gigs and old DVD's on iTunes. Perhaps Quo could (should?) have their own YouTube channel. Not sure how that works but many artists do. I just think there is still a fair bit of stuff out there to be appreciated and ignoring it simply because it costs a bit seems to be short term thinking. I know the tendency is to concentrate on the here and now but the past is what got them there. I know. I'm just moaning. I'll go have another coffee Quo do have a YouTube channel, but it is poorly utilized... which is stupid when they have 34k subscribers. Things are being digitised, so it's not a case of ignoring the past, its finding the best time to start releasing it all. Physical releases would be the best bet in Quos situation, as that's what we all want. Digital only is a massive no go. They would probably earn less from YouTube than they would from itunes. And the music videos on itunes are piss poor quality. Really they should be updated with the ones found on the ANS dvd. |
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