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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 18:47:29 GMT
Ah, after reading all the positive comments re: todays interview, I'm gonna go take a look, maybe i will be pleasantly surprised
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Nov 14, 2017 18:56:34 GMT
Explain why it is a con? Or certainly why those of us who regularly visit Quo message boards (or FB) should feel conned?
I'm going to Manchester in a few weeks. I know it has changed from acoustic to electric; if I wasn't happy with that I would have asked for (and probably got) a refund. I know Rick died and Ritchie has replaced him. I know that Leon is on drums, not one of the previous 4 drummers. I know that Alan isn't in the band these days but Rhino is. I know they have keyboards. I know the setlist is pretty static and won't be much different from last winter. I know they won't do a full version of 45 Hundred Times. I know that Rhino, Andy and Ritchie will sing instead of Rick. etc etc etc
So for those of us in the know.....what is a con? What will happen that I don't already know about?
You haven't heard Rhino vocally murder Ricks songs ?! You haven't heard the half arsed attempts at a guitar solo from Rossi ?! You haven't heard a band that overall sounds awful in the main, with many trib bands now sounding better than Francis & Friends band ?! Even after all the BS/U turns/disrespect etc etc you are still happy to pay their wages ?! I could add more, I am sure you will enjoy the gig, I do hope so, with the rest of the GH/once a year fanbase, & I am sure yer night will be made complete when you get a pointed finger from Rhino, a wink from Rossi etc etc ,, ENJOY!!! Ive the vocals in general ain't been the best for a while now, Rick included Rossi' guitar solos ain't half as bad as you make out They are nowhere near awful, you say trib bands are better I say never. we choose to go to gigs and if we are paying their wages then it's only the same as any fans watching any band in the world, so what?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 19:06:29 GMT
Ive the vocals in general ain't been the best for a while now, Rick included Rossi' guitar solos ain't half as bad as you make out They are nowhere near awful, you say trib bands are better I say never. we choose to go to gigs and if we are paying their wages then it's only the same as any fans watching any band in the world, so what? Would you say that Rhino's vocals do Rick songs justice ? True, Ricks vocals were never as good as they were since his throat op, but they were still good Rossi's guitar solo's are still very good, when he can be arsed to do them properly, which isnt often I can name 4 trib bands that to me now sound better than Rossi's band You pay yer money yer make yer choice, that's fair enough, I however will never pay for inferior goods/service
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 19:13:24 GMT
Hmm, so I have now watched this mornings interview, so what to say, well overall I did think it was a good interview, in the main, its the first time I have seen him look visibly moved in places,,, and then he has to go and let it down by saying he no longer misses Rick on stage, and making a big issue of Ricks drinking & smoking,, and all of this from the single biggest drug taker/addict in the band, whose own drug inflicted state gave him visions of grandeur & eventually wrecked the band I loved,,,,, he should be thankful he still has enough fans left to at least pay his shrinking wallet something,, but this time next year, who knows who will still remember him in adequate nbrs ?!
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Nov 14, 2017 19:46:25 GMT
Hmm, so I have now watched this mornings interview, so what to say, well overall I did think it was a good interview, in the main, its the first time I have seen him look visibly moved in places,,, and then he has to go and let it down by saying he no longer misses Rick on stage, and making a big issue of Ricks drinking & smoking,, and all of this from the single biggest drug taker/addict in the band, whose own drug inflicted state gave him visions of grandeur & eventually wrecked the band I loved,,,,, he should be thankful he still has enough fans left to at least pay his shrinking wallet something,, but this time next year, who knows who will still remember him in adequate nbrs ?! Francis said he started to clean up his act at a certain age but Rick didn't, that s all
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 19:49:11 GMT
Hmm, so I have now watched this mornings interview, so what to say, well overall I did think it was a good interview, in the main, its the first time I have seen him look visibly moved in places,,, and then he has to go and let it down by saying he no longer misses Rick on stage, and making a big issue of Ricks drinking & smoking,, and all of this from the single biggest drug taker/addict in the band, whose own drug inflicted state gave him visions of grandeur & eventually wrecked the band I loved,,,,, he should be thankful he still has enough fans left to at least pay his shrinking wallet something,, but this time next year, who knows who will still remember him in adequate nbrs ?! Francis said he started to clean up his act at a certain age but Rick didn't, that s all and which age would that be then ?,
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Nov 14, 2017 19:55:53 GMT
Francis said he started to clean up his act at a certain age but Rick didn't, that s all and which age would that be then ?, Not sure exactly what age but it's a well known fact Francis started to live a more healthier life style. Rick tried to but kept falling back into bad habits, as far as I am aware
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 14, 2017 20:04:04 GMT
and which age would that be then ?, Not sure exactly what age but it's a well known fact Francis started to live a more healthier life style. Rick tried to but kept falling back into bad habits, as far as I am aware I know he stopped taking coke around 88-89 after he married Eileen. I think he still smokes occasionally and may have a tipple now and again. Rick kicked drugs in the main back in the 90s though would admit to having a "Weekend" now and again. He admitted that in the Annie Nightingale interview in 91. Apart from his nose falling off Francis does not seem to have suffered health wise from the Drug years. However we know what it did to Rick and he had so many warnings but still seemed to not listen to them. I know someone who has had a heart bypass and is now trying to be as healthy as they can. They didn't regard it as a engine service and then go roaring off at 100mph again. Yes it sounds a great quote to make and when I first read that I chuckled but at the same time thought. "He's going to regret doing that one day".
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Post by viking55 on Nov 14, 2017 20:08:51 GMT
Yes you pay your money you take your choice. Nothing more to add to that ! As for Francis talking about Drinking and Smoking by Rick. Who on the planet who actually knew him didn’t know that so it’s not as if Francis is sensationally revealing something. Everyone knows What killed Rick. Even his obituary on the news channels last year hinted at the fact his Rock star lifestyle killed him. But you have to blame Francis for everything Rick ever did in his life so my friend you are one sad individual !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 20:10:56 GMT
But you have to blame Francis for everything Rick ever did in his life so my friend you are one sad individual ! please show me, on here where I have blamed Rossi for what you state, you won't be able to so yet more BS from a bull ter like you
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Post by viking55 on Nov 14, 2017 20:23:41 GMT
There is even another ‘Parf ‘ elsewhere. No relation to Rick . Analysing Francis Face when he answered the questions...I mean.... get a life for god sake !!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 20:27:23 GMT
There is even another ‘Parf ‘ elsewhere. No relation to Rick . Analysing Francis Face when he answered the questions...I mean.... get a life for god sake !!! and where is this wee gem you go on about, link please, or if you cannot provide a link just more BS from you,, again
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Post by viking55 on Nov 14, 2017 20:30:09 GMT
Go look...go figure !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 20:40:33 GMT
So you cannot provide a link then, didn't think you would be able to
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 14, 2017 22:14:09 GMT
So you cannot provide a link then, didn't think you would be able to I think he means a place you would not go back too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 22:22:27 GMT
So you cannot provide a link then, didn't think you would be able to I think he means a place you would not go back too. And what place would that be then ?
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 14, 2017 22:23:16 GMT
I think he means a place you would not go back too. And what place would that be then ? Scotland forever
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 22:26:40 GMT
And what place would that be then ? Scotland forever oh that place
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 23:08:56 GMT
I listened to the interview on my way home from work. Was quite taken aback tbh. Felt it was very open and sincere, (as oppose to the usual nonsense). Very little about the future/tour, lots of talk about Frame and Rick’s relationship (and now I know how ‘Frame’ came about).
Some wonderful insights, as mentioned above, the g7 chord reference made me chuckle. The crossed leg reference made me well up.
Had to bloody mention ‘insecure show off’ though and now my tv has a brick shaped hole in it. You tool Rossi!
Loved his ‘some people might not believe me but I don’t care’ reference. Exactly as it should be. Being obsessed with Quo and it’s members, individually or collectively, is not the same as knowing them. Rossi’s personal views and thoughts on his friend of 50 or so years are just that, personal. Who gives a feck what anyone else thinks?
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Post by smokie on Nov 15, 2017 6:31:38 GMT
Some wonderful insights, as mentioned above, the g7 chord reference made me chuckle. The crossed leg reference made me well up. Loved his ‘some people might not believe me but I don’t care’ reference. Exactly as it should be. Being obsessed with Quo and it’s members, individually or collectively, is not the same as knowing them. Rossi’s personal views and thoughts on his friend of 50 or so years are just that, personal. Who gives a feck what anyone else thinks? Point 1. I'm the same. Point 2. I thought this comment might set the cat amongst the pigeons but I agree 100%
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 10:52:13 GMT
I am NOT trying to rock anyones boat here, but I find it odd that Rossi has only opened up a little regarding Rick almost a year later,, in my thoughts are, is this a sympathy card being played to try and sell more tickets for a failed UK tour,, I am not being nasty saying that either.
Ricks own words, in the last months of his life ""He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual", sticks in my head, I believe that was indeed the case, I just wish he had completed that book
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 15, 2017 11:03:22 GMT
I am NOT trying to rock anyones boat here, but I find it odd that Rossi has only opened up a little regarding Rick almost a year later,, in my thoughts are, is this a sympathy card being played to try and sell more tickets for a failed UK tour,, I am not being nasty saying that either. Ricks own words, in the last months of his life ""He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual", sticks in my head, I believe that was indeed the case, I just wish he had completed that book That might have been true what he said, however anything Rick said after Turkey could not be taken at full face value. Other people not just Francis said he changed after the incident and was no longer the Rick they really knew. His actions with Lyndsay just walking out when she was trying to care for him showed he was not thinking straight at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 11:13:00 GMT
I am NOT trying to rock anyones boat here, but I find it odd that Rossi has only opened up a little regarding Rick almost a year later,, in my thoughts are, is this a sympathy card being played to try and sell more tickets for a failed UK tour,, I am not being nasty saying that either. Ricks own words, in the last months of his life ""He doesn't care a lot about me and the feeling is mutual", sticks in my head, I believe that was indeed the case, I just wish he had completed that book That might have been true what he said, however anything Rick said after Turkey could not be taken at full face value. Other people not just Francis said he changed after the incident and was no longer the Rick they really knew. His actions with Lyndsay just walking out when she was trying to care for him showed he was not thinking straight at the time. Maybe, maybe not, pure speculation. Maybe he had changed in respect that he knew in himself he could never return to the band & it was in the main due to his own actions, so to him, that was the main part of his life gone, that would change most folk would it not under similar circumstances ?
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Post by viking55 on Nov 15, 2017 11:14:52 GMT
3 years ago my 47 year old younger Bruv suffered a sudden Brain aneurysm. Now confined to a wheelchair but miraculously he survived it. But the bleed and starvation of Oxeygen caused damage and although he is 85% recovered mentally his actual personality is very different in certain situations how he reacts to things. What I mean is how he would have reacted prior and how he reacts now. Oxygen starvation tothe Brain is very major ! I am just speculating maybe Rick had changed after this major trauma. I don’t know I’m just giving a scenario of a personal situation where it did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 11:20:03 GMT
3 years ago my 47 year old younger Bruv suffered a sudden Brain aneurysm. Now confined to a wheelchair but miraculously he survived it. But the bleed and starvation of Oxeygen caused damage and although he is 85% recovered mentally his actual personality is very different in certain situations how he reacts to things. What I mean is how he would have reacted prior and how he reacts now. Oxygen starvation tothe Brain is very major ! I am just speculating maybe Rick had changed after this major trauma. I don’t know I’m just giving a scenario of a personal situation where it did. Its a fair comparison Viking, Rick died for a nbr of minutes before they managed to bring him back, therefore his brain was starved of oxygen, which would of course cause ireversable damage, which could lead to a change in personality, at least in part
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