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Post by mortified on Jul 7, 2019 8:10:47 GMT
snakelady, that official Quo thing has been on there for a few weeks. You'll also find that the same narrative is repeated for every advert for the product that you read, no matter which website. I got one from www.eil.com (which I subscribe to) and it was exactly the same. As is the official merch store. I dare say their Facebook page is the same. I believe the title track was available on Spotify for a while but has since disappeared. I check iTunes on a daily basis for a 'single' but nothing yet.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jul 7, 2019 12:51:39 GMT
snakelady, that official Quo thing has been on there for a few weeks. You'll also find that the same narrative is repeated for every advert for the product that you read, no matter which website. I got one from www.eil.com (which I subscribe to) and it was exactly the same. As is the official merch store. I dare say their Facebook page is the same. I believe the title track was available on Spotify for a while but has since disappeared. I check iTunes on a daily basis for a 'single' but nothing yet. the title track was nothing special in my honest opinion. Pure cheese lyrics and the riff was repeated throughout the whole song, which became tiresome after the 1st minute. I have a copy if youd like to hear it, for those that didn't manage to Cheers
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Post by mortified on Jul 8, 2019 5:18:40 GMT
snakelady , that official Quo thing has been on there for a few weeks. You'll also find that the same narrative is repeated for every advert for the product that you read, no matter which website. I got one from www.eil.com (which I subscribe to) and it was exactly the same. As is the official merch store. I dare say their Facebook page is the same. I believe the title track was available on Spotify for a while but has since disappeared. I check iTunes on a daily basis for a 'single' but nothing yet. the title track was nothing special in my honest opinion. Pure cheese lyrics and the riff was repeated throughout the whole song, which became tiresome after the 1st minute. I have a copy if youd like to hear it, for those that didn't manage to Cheers Cheers, mate, but no thanks. It'll keep by the sounds
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Post by snakelady on Jul 8, 2019 7:00:12 GMT
Well, I don't visit the Quo homepage all that often these days .. Thanks for the offer, Quoincidence, but I've decided to not listen to more stuff from the new album - snippets or whole songs - till I hold it in my hands. It's much more fun this way.
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Post by deardron on Jul 8, 2019 19:18:12 GMT
I'm imagining something that sounds like "The Winner", unfortunately, for me. After having heard the song, I can say that it reminded me of another sport anthem, Owusu Owusu by Mr. John 'Rhino' Edwards:
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Post by frozenhero on Jul 10, 2019 12:46:35 GMT
I think I read somewhere that the live tracks will be from LNOTE. I think I ordered the same Over and Out package....I didn't get it either. By the time they admitted that I wasn't going to get it, I couldn't get the 2 CD version from anywhere so I just ended up buying the basic single CD version. I still haven't heard the 'band mix' version.... was it much different?I didn't think so. I've only played it the once and I did it in isolation without directly comparing the two. But maybe there are those out there who think they're miles apart I'll maybe have another listen now you've brought the subject up Thankfully, I did get my preorder from Amazon. I prefer the band's mix. It sounds less polished - most notably less compressed (which really matters with "When I Was Fallin' in Love", which is far too loud in the regular version) and, I think, also less auto-tuned.
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Post by frozenhero on Jul 10, 2019 12:50:40 GMT
I'd never heard of Andy Brook either. Then again, I'd never heard of John Eden back in the late 70's either. Your reference made me look at the Rossi/Rickard album. He was engineer but he didn't master it. That was Mike Paxman ironically. But I don't know the first thing about either role if I'm honest. I suppose you can have too many cooks; a producer, a mixer, an engineer and someone doing the mastering. Who makes the coffee? Well, typically, all those people are engineers first and foremost. Sometimes the producer might also be the recording and/or mixing engineer, sometimes somebody else will be doing the technical stuff while the producer's role is more a creative one, telling the band what he thinks works best and all that. These days, albums are often produced with less budget so that the mixing and mastering is often done by the same person. The results are often not good. Listen to Billy Gibbons' recent solo album and you'll hear what I mean. On the other hand, some argue mastering is unnecessary anyway unless there's a vinyl edition. That's why Steven Wilson, for example, has gone to simply putting his mixes out without much additiona mastering, after some bad experiences with mastering engineers (especially with the Jethro Tull remixes).
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Post by mortified on Jul 10, 2019 15:14:49 GMT
I'd never heard of Andy Brook either. Then again, I'd never heard of John Eden back in the late 70's either. Your reference made me look at the Rossi/Rickard album. He was engineer but he didn't master it. That was Mike Paxman ironically. But I don't know the first thing about either role if I'm honest. I suppose you can have too many cooks; a producer, a mixer, an engineer and someone doing the mastering. Who makes the coffee? Well, typically, all those people are engineers first and foremost. Sometimes the producer might also be the recording and/or mixing engineer, sometimes somebody else will be doing the technical stuff while the producer's role is more a creative one, telling the band what he thinks works best and all that. These days, albums are often produced with less budget so that the mixing and mastering is often done by the same person. The results are often not good. Listen to Billy Gibbons' recent solo album and you'll hear what I mean. On the other hand, some argue mastering is unnecessary anyway unless there's a vinyl edition. That's why Steven Wilson, for example, has gone to simply putting his mixes out without much additiona mastering, after some bad experiences with mastering engineers (especially with the Jethro Tull remixes). I've got that and I thought it sounded good But then perhaps not being technical in that way I don't know what I'm supposed to be listening for The Rick solo track you quoted in the other post is actually the only song I don't like on the album so I haven't really given it much of a play.
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Post by frozenhero on Jul 10, 2019 16:17:27 GMT
I think that's the one song that really benefits from the band's mix. I find it almost untolerable in the regular version, it "fits" much better on the bonus disc. Well, typically, all those people are engineers first and foremost. Sometimes the producer might also be the recording and/or mixing engineer, sometimes somebody else will be doing the technical stuff while the producer's role is more a creative one, telling the band what he thinks works best and all that. These days, albums are often produced with less budget so that the mixing and mastering is often done by the same person. The results are often not good. Listen to Billy Gibbons' recent solo album and you'll hear what I mean. On the other hand, some argue mastering is unnecessary anyway unless there's a vinyl edition. That's why Steven Wilson, for example, has gone to simply putting his mixes out without much additiona mastering, after some bad experiences with mastering engineers (especially with the Jethro Tull remixes). I've got that and I thought it sounded good But then perhaps not being technical in that way I don't know what I'm supposed to be listening for It's a strange thing, some songs sound okay, but others really hurt my ears in ways I thought were impossible. And that, in turns, hurts me as somebody who still considers himself a ZZ Top fan. I just don't appreciate where he's been going with regards to the ultra-compressed sound and autotune. And somebody on another forum said the vinyl also sounds like crap, unlike "La Futura" which still had decent engineering but was smashed to bits (and bytes) on CD... My point is that, had Joe Hardy not done all the engineering, the album might have sounded better. (I'm talking about "The Big Bad Blues", by the way, if that hasn't been clear. Never bought "Perfectamundo".)
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Post by mortified on Jul 11, 2019 5:19:35 GMT
I think that's the one song that really benefits from the band's mix. I find it almost untolerable in the regular version, it "fits" much better on the bonus disc. I've got that and I thought it sounded good But then perhaps not being technical in that way I don't know what I'm supposed to be listening for It's a strange thing, some songs sound okay, but others really hurt my ears in ways I thought were impossible. And that, in turns, hurts me as somebody who still considers himself a ZZ Top fan. I just don't appreciate where he's been going with regards to the ultra-compressed sound and autotune. And somebody on another forum said the vinyl also sounds like crap, unlike "La Futura" which still had decent engineering but was smashed to bits (and bytes) on CD... My point is that, had Joe Hardy not done all the engineering, the album might have sounded better. ( I'm talking about "The Big Bad Blues", by the way, if that hasn't been clear. Never bought "Perfectamundo".)Me too, although I did buy both. Or rather downloaded both. I'm not sure if that makes any difference sound wise. I had no problem with the sound of La Futura. I just didn't think it was that great an album despite all the hype it got about ZZ Top going back to what they did best. I preferred all of the albums that came immediately before it. Since Antenna anyway, which I wasn't that keen on. There was once a Backbone thread here
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Post by snakelady on Jul 11, 2019 7:10:10 GMT
I think that's the one song that really benefits from the band's mix. I find it almost untolerable in the regular version, it "fits" much better on the bonus disc. It's a strange thing, some songs sound okay, but others really hurt my ears in ways I thought were impossible. And that, in turns, hurts me as somebody who still considers himself a ZZ Top fan. I just don't appreciate where he's been going with regards to the ultra-compressed sound and autotune. And somebody on another forum said the vinyl also sounds like crap, unlike "La Futura" which still had decent engineering but was smashed to bits (and bytes) on CD... My point is that, had Joe Hardy not done all the engineering, the album might have sounded better. ( I'm talking about "The Big Bad Blues", by the way, if that hasn't been clear. Never bought "Perfectamundo".)Me too, although I did buy both. Or rather downloaded both. I'm not sure if that makes any difference sound wise. I had no problem with the sound of La Futura. I just didn't think it was that great an album despite all the hype it got about ZZ Top going back to what they did best. I preferred all of the albums that came immediately before it. Since Antenna anyway, which I wasn't that keen on. There was once a Backbone thread here Well, I very much prefer Quo over ZZ Top. May have to do with the fact that I can't stand guys with beards. Why do so many men feel inclined to look like a taliban these days ? I do remember Quo once did a photo session with short hair face too. Was more of a sexy stubble though than real beards, so they were forgiven. Must've been around WYW I think. Probably to emphasise the 'old men in boys' clothes' line .. (Ok, not back to Backbone, but at least back to Quo )
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Post by mortified on Jul 11, 2019 7:34:23 GMT
To be fair to Tres Hombres, both Billy Gibbons and Dusty Hill sported those mad beards from the late 70's; as opposed the new fashion. From memory, they went trekking through the Himalayas for a couple of years and the beards were just a by-product of that. They just never shaved them off. Quo all have beards to an extent on the reverse of the Never Too Late album so I guess we're talking 1980/81 or thereabouts. Funny how conversations develop
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Jul 11, 2019 19:01:32 GMT
To be fair to Tres Hombres, both Billy Gibbons and Dusty Hill sported those mad beards from the late 70's; as opposed the new fashion. From memory, they went trekking through the Himalayas for a couple of years and the beards were just a by-product of that. They just never shaved them off. Quo all have beards to an extent on the reverse of the Never Too Late album so I guess we're talking 1980/81 or thereabouts. Funny how conversations develop How I’d describe irony to an American- tell them that the only member of Zz Top without a beard is called Frank Beard !
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Post by mortified on Jul 12, 2019 5:58:36 GMT
The title track, Backbone, is now officially available to buy and download as a single on iTunes.
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Post by dai on Jul 12, 2019 9:48:43 GMT
The title track, Backbone, is now officially available to buy and download as a single on iTunes. Backbone is an unusual track. A bit quirky and repetitive. Certainly not as commercial sounding as Liberty Lane. Strange choice as a single.
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Post by mortified on Jul 12, 2019 12:41:04 GMT
The title track, Backbone, is now officially available to buy and download as a single on iTunes. Backbone is an unusual track. A bit quirky and repetitive. Certainly not as commercial sounding as Liberty Lane. Strange choice as a single. I sort of agree to an extent but I guess it advertises the album indirectly. Something they didn't do with Heavy Traffic or even Under The Influence. That might be the thinking behind it because most Quo tracks, certainly these days, could be singles. And I dare say Liberty Lane will be the next one available given that they are both on YouTube. And it's in the set. Sort of similar to All Stand Up in that respect. Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it. As usual
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Post by mortified on Jul 12, 2019 12:49:49 GMT
And.... The official video for the single is now up on the Quo website. Maybe on Facebook as well. I'd never know It's also on YouTube. As you can see
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Post by dai on Jul 12, 2019 14:23:37 GMT
Backbone is an unusual track. A bit quirky and repetitive. Certainly not as commercial sounding as Liberty Lane. Strange choice as a single. I sort of agree to an extent but I guess it advertises the album indirectly. Something they didn't do with Heavy Traffic or even Under The Influence. That might be the thinking behind it because most Quo tracks, certainly these days, could be singles. And I dare say Liberty Lane will be the next one available given that they are both on YouTube. And it's in the set. Sort of similar to All Stand Up in that respect. Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it. As usual Not releasing Heavy Traffic as the opening single from that album still annoys me. 🙄
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Post by craydarr on Jul 12, 2019 17:32:14 GMT
The Backbone single is now able to be streamed on Amazon music so today must be the release date.
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Post by dai on Jul 12, 2019 19:23:00 GMT
The Backbone single is now able to be streamed on Amazon music so today must be the release date. Do they do a physical single these days or just download?
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Post by kursaal75 on Jul 12, 2019 20:01:05 GMT
The last physical Quo single I bought, was 25 years ago, Sherri Don't Fail Me Now.
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Post by snakelady on Jul 13, 2019 6:29:51 GMT
The last physical Quo single I bought, was 25 years ago, Sherri Don't Fail Me Now. Ouch, you could've stopped with something better .. (I knew you were a popper at heart ). Why didn't you buy You'll Come Round ? No idea how singles work these days with no physical product and b-sides and the fact you can buy every song by itself anyway . I suppose it's a single in name only, something either the record company suggests to radio stations as they consider them listener friendly or songs the stations are allowed to choose by themselves for the same reason. Maybe in this case the record company thought Backbone was the best choice while BBC2 went for Liberty Lane ?
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Post by mortified on Jul 13, 2019 6:50:19 GMT
The last physical Quo single I bought, was 25 years ago, Sherri Don't Fail Me Now. Ouch, you could've stopped with something better .. (I knew you were a popper at heart ). Why didn't you buy You'll Come Round ? No idea how singles work these days with no physical product and b-sides and the fact you can buy every song by itself anyway . I suppose it's a single in name only, something either the record company suggests to radio stations as they consider them listener friendly or songs the stations are allowed to choose by themselves for the same reason. Maybe in this case the record company thought Backbone was the best choice while BBC2 went for Liberty Lane ? There have been physical CD's for most Quo singles in the last few years but for promotional purposes only. I managed to get hold of several when Quid Pro Quo was released. But I agree; calling them "singles" these days is becoming a redundant term. They're just songs promoting the album. Which singles always were, of course, but the cost of physically producing them now is unnecessary. Advance tracks is probably a more accurate term now. Last official CD single I bought was In The Army Now 2010 and the last Quo vinyl was It's Christmas Time. There have, of course, been solo singles since either of those from Francis, Rick and Rhino.
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Post by kursaal75 on Jul 13, 2019 8:32:47 GMT
What I meant to say, Sherri was the last vinyl single I bought. CD single's span from Ain't complaining to In The Army Now (2010)
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Post by snakelady on Jul 21, 2019 8:10:58 GMT
OI, think it was a mistake to pre-order the 2CD (cum t.shirt) set just to make sure I'll get all the new songs available .. In the meantime I've learnt that CD2 is going to be a live CD. Well, what did I expect ? ..who needs yet another RAOTW or WYW. although, to be fair - it is a new set, not just the two new songs, and the first live CD from this line-up. So maybe, just maybe I'll listen to it more than once. I'd very much prefer a blueray though. It's been quite some time since we got the last video from a gig (and no, Wacken doesn't count, as that was the same old )
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