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Post by frozenhero on Oct 24, 2017 10:12:06 GMT
One of my mates bought the CD this morning, all was going well until he played Track 3 'Roadhouse Blues' on CD 2 and at 0.42 seconds in, the track cuts out until 2.04. I was wondering if this is just a clitch on his copy, or is it a wider issue. Why is it ALWAYS Quo?  I take it we all remember the Just Doin' It and Going Downtown Tonight debacles? I haven't bought it yet but what I'll probably do is download it for my iPod and buy the CD for the 'collection'. I'd alerted the powers that be to the fact that the BBC CD uses a "patched thing" in the middle of RHB (courtesy of the Bootleg Index). But of course I didn't want the problem to be solved like that! Argh! |
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Post by mortified on Oct 24, 2017 10:34:01 GMT
The Milton Keynes video was similarly butchered. Both Roadhouse Blues and Forty Five Hundred Times got the 'edited' treatment. The length of Roadhouse Blues on the new NEC album is the same as the Live At The BBC version (8:50). I'm not sure how long it's supposed to be because I no longer own the video. But it looks like they should both be the same. Not sure what's going on. Surely there isn't just a blank space for over a minute??  |
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Oct 24, 2017 12:39:27 GMT
Why is it ALWAYS Quo? I take it we all remember the Just Doin' It and Going Downtown Tonight debacles? I haven't bought it yet but what I'll probably do is download it for my iPod and buy the CD for the 'collection'. I'd alerted the powers that be to the fact that the BBC CD uses a "patched thing" in the middle of RHB (courtesy of the Bootleg Index). But of course I didn't want the problem to be solved like that! Argh! What's the 'patched thing'? And why is it required? |
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 25, 2017 21:22:46 GMT
I'd alerted the powers that be to the fact that the BBC CD uses a "patched thing" in the middle of RHB (courtesy of the Bootleg Index). But of course I didn't want the problem to be solved like that! Argh! What's the 'patched thing'? And why is it required? It's explained here: www.freewebs.com/quolive/Apparently the BBC box set version was sourced from a bootleg where part of the song was "fixed". I had hoped that the new reissue would be a full remix from the original multitrack tapes, but Live! didn't get the treatment either - I guess it's just too expensive. Anyway, Steve Hammonds told me the defect happened at the CD pressing plant. The files were fine (which is why the LP and download don't have the fault). I've delayed buying the CD until there is confirmation that 1) fixed versions will be released and 2) if I get a defective copy I can easily get a replacement. |
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Post by snakelady on Oct 26, 2017 8:33:42 GMT
What's the 'patched thing'? And why is it required? It's explained here: www.freewebs.com/quolive/Apparently the BBC box set version was sourced from a bootleg where part of the song was "fixed". I had hoped that the new reissue would be a full remix from the original multitrack tapes, but Live! didn't get the treatment either - I guess it's just too expensive. Anyway, Steve Hammonds told me the defect happened at the CD pressing plant. The files were fine (which is why the LP and download don't have the fault). I've delayed buying the CD until there is confirmation that 1) fixed versions will be released and 2) if I get a defective copy I can easily get a replacement. Good to know  So I shall wait as well with ordering mine .. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 12:57:26 GMT
One of my mates bought the CD this morning, all was going well until he played Track 3 'Roadhouse Blues' on CD 2 and at 0.42 seconds in, the track cuts out until 2.04. I was wondering if this is just a clitch on his copy, or is it a wider issue. Why is it ALWAYS Quo? I take it we all remember the Just Doin' It and Going Downtown Tonight debacles? I haven't bought it yet but what I'll probably do is download it for my iPod and buy the CD for the 'collection'. Defects can become collectors items you know  |
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Oct 26, 2017 13:10:47 GMT
One of my mates bought the CD this morning, all was going well until he played Track 3 'Roadhouse Blues' on CD 2 and at 0.42 seconds in, the track cuts out until 2.04. I was wondering if this is just a clitch on his copy, or is it a wider issue. Why is it ALWAYS Quo? I take it we all remember the Just Doin' It and Going Downtown Tonight debacles? I haven't bought it yet but what I'll probably do is download it for my iPod and buy the CD for the 'collection'. What was the Going Down Town Tonight debacle? |
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Post by mortified on Oct 26, 2017 15:09:42 GMT
Why is it ALWAYS Quo? I take it we all remember the Just Doin' It and Going Downtown Tonight debacles? I haven't bought it yet but what I'll probably do is download it for my iPod and buy the CD for the 'collection'. What was the Going Down Town Tonight debacle? On the remastered version of Back To Back in 2005, one of the extra tracks was the "re-recorded single version" of Going Downtown Tonight. Only it turned out to be just a repeat of the album version! I think it was rectified although I'm not entirely sure. In any event, the proper re-recorded version pitched up on the Pictures - 40 Years of Hits collection three years later. I haven't listened to it personally because I cannot stand the track but I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. |
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 26, 2017 18:01:48 GMT
What was the Going Down Town Tonight debacle? On the remastered version of Back To Back in 2005, one of the extra tracks was the "re-recorded single version" of Going Downtown Tonight. Only it turned out to be just a repeat of the album version! I think it was rectified although I'm not entirely sure. In any event, the proper re-recorded version pitched up on the Pictures - 40 Years of Hits collection three years later. I haven't listened to it personally because I cannot stand the track but I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. Wikipedia states that at one point the master was found and the BTB remaster was indeed 'fixed'. Errors or pressing problems like these aren't uncommon at all; if you read www.superdeluxeedition.com for a couple of months you'll notice that few acts have not had something like this happen at some point. |
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Post by quolion on Oct 26, 2017 18:35:41 GMT
Due to a production fault on ‘Status Quo – Live at the NEC’ 2-CD deluxe edition, on Roadhouse Blues (CD2, track 3) where the track has suffered a loss of sound between 00.42 and 02.04, this product has been withdrawn from the market while replacement discs get made up.
All customers wishing to receive a replacement disc will need to send an email to the below address, showing proof of purchase along with their postal address.
infoumc@umusic.com
Universal apologise for any inconvenience caused and endeavour to send out replacements as soon as available.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 18:44:27 GMT
Due to a production fault on ‘Status Quo – Live at the NEC’ 2-CD deluxe edition, on Roadhouse Blues (CD2, track 3) where the track has suffered a loss of sound between 00.42 and 02.04, this product has been withdrawn from the market while replacement discs get made up. All customers wishing to receive a replacement disc will need to send an email to the below address, showing proof of purchase along with their postal address. infoumc@umusic.com Universal apologise for any inconvenience caused and endeavour to send out replacements as soon as available. Thanks for that info |
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Post by gav on Oct 26, 2017 21:45:55 GMT
On the remastered version of Back To Back in 2005, one of the extra tracks was the "re-recorded single version" of Going Downtown Tonight. Only it turned out to be just a repeat of the album version! I think it was rectified although I'm not entirely sure. In any event, the proper re-recorded version pitched up on the Pictures - 40 Years of Hits collection three years later. I haven't listened to it personally because I cannot stand the track but I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. Wikipedia states that at one point the master was found and the BTB remaster was indeed 'fixed'. Errors or pressing problems like these aren't uncommon at all; if you read www.superdeluxeedition.com for a couple of months you'll notice that few acts have not had something like this happen at some point. If you listen closely to the two 'same' versions of GDTT (album version) on the erroneous B2B remaster, you'll notice a subtle difference in the sound. It's almost as if they have consciously remixed the album version ever so slightly to become the single version, but the difference is subtle though. I wonder if what is more likely is that they have sourced the 'single' version from 12 Gold Bars Vol 2 (as it was originally wrongly presented), and it has just resulted in a slightly different sound somehow? Who knows. |
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 26, 2017 21:50:55 GMT
Wikipedia states that at one point the master was found and the BTB remaster was indeed 'fixed'. Errors or pressing problems like these aren't uncommon at all; if you read www.superdeluxeedition.com for a couple of months you'll notice that few acts have not had something like this happen at some point. If you listen closely to the two 'same' versions of GDTT (album version) on the erroneous B2B remaster, you'll notice a subtle difference in the sound. It's almost as if they have consciously remixed the album version ever so slightly to become the single version, but the difference is subtle though. I wonder if what is more likely is that they have sourced the 'single' version from 12 Gold Bars Vol 2 (as it was originally wrongly presented), and it has just resulted in a slightly different sound somehow? Who knows. Interesting, if you put the different versions into Audacity you should see whether they're sourced from the same master or not (speed differences)... |
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Oct 27, 2017 15:14:58 GMT
What was the Going Down Town Tonight debacle? On the remastered version of Back To Back in 2005, one of the extra tracks was the "re-recorded single version" of Going Downtown Tonight. Only it turned out to be just a repeat of the album version! I think it was rectified although I'm not entirely sure. In any event, the proper re-recorded version pitched up on the Pictures - 40 Years of Hits collection three years later. I haven't listened to it personally because I cannot stand the track but I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. I think it's the correct version on my 2005 remaster......but I did buy it years later. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 22:23:16 GMT
And still no replacement disc 2, how long does it take to repress a new set of discs ? month's ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 23:01:51 GMT
Just going to let you all know, it's the Tim Turan remaster on Disc One, and the Live At The BBC release on Disc Two. Nothing more than a waste of money So its NOT a NEW remaster job ? I was under the impression it was. I thought both discs were new remasters I only got it for the full 4500 |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 20, 2017 23:07:07 GMT
Just going to let you all know, it's the Tim Turan remaster on Disc One, and the Live At The BBC release on Disc Two. Nothing more than a waste of money So its NOT a NEW remaster job ? I was under the impression it was. I thought both discs were new remasters I only got it for the full 4500 Nope, it's literally just those two releases combined together. The Live At The BBC release was from a radio broadcast that faded out during the jig in Roadhouse Blues, and comes back in just as Rossi starts playing the Mexican Hat Dance. If you listen to that part on the *new* release and the BBC release, you'll hear the same awful bootleg audio they used to fill that spot. I'll have to do a comparison and upload it to Youtube as 'evidence'. Far from a new remaster. Utter laziness. They just about get away with this BS currently and will continue to do so... best thing to do would be boycott the releases cause they put NO effort in, and then they'd learn. I've done comparisons of the VHS - BBC DVD footage so far, but that's mainly to show the mixture of both nights footage on the BBC release |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 23:12:47 GMT
So its NOT a NEW remaster job ? I was under the impression it was. I thought both discs were new remasters I only got it for the full 4500 Nope, it's literally just those two releases combined together. The Live At The BBC release was from a radio broadcast that faded out during the jig in Roadhouse Blues, and comes back in just as Rossi starts playing the Mexican Hat Dance. If you listen to that part on the *new* release and the BBC release, you'll hear the same awful bootleg audio they used to fill that spot. I'll have to do a comparison and upload it to Youtube as 'evidence'. Far from a new remaster. Utter laziness. They just about get away with this BS currently and will continue to do so... best thing to do would be boycott the releases cause they put NO effort in, and then they'd learn. I already had the Turan remaster and the 8(?) disc BBC box set, so are you telling me I have bought the same thing that's simply been chucked together as a 2 disc set ? |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 20, 2017 23:15:14 GMT
Nope, it's literally just those two releases combined together. The Live At The BBC release was from a radio broadcast that faded out during the jig in Roadhouse Blues, and comes back in just as Rossi starts playing the Mexican Hat Dance. If you listen to that part on the *new* release and the BBC release, you'll hear the same awful bootleg audio they used to fill that spot. I'll have to do a comparison and upload it to Youtube as 'evidence'. Far from a new remaster. Utter laziness. They just about get away with this BS currently and will continue to do so... best thing to do would be boycott the releases cause they put NO effort in, and then they'd learn. I already had the Turan remaster and the 8(?) disc BBC box set, so are you telling me I have bought the same thing that's simply been chucked together as a 2 disc set ? Yeah, that's right... We paid for a combination of two things everyone (mostly everyone), already owned |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 23:16:30 GMT
I already had the Turan remaster and the 8(?) disc BBC box set, so are you telling me I have bought the same thing that's simply been chucked together as a 2 disc set ? Yeah, that's right... We paid for a combination of two things everyone (mostly everyone), already owned  ripped off again   |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 20, 2017 23:19:00 GMT
Yeah, that's right... We paid for a combination of two things everyone (mostly everyone), already owned  ripped off again  Yep! it's ridiculous they can get away with this and fob it off as a "NEW" remaster... and they will continue to do so as we (the fans) keep buying into this  . All this "Disc two contains unearthed material" nonsense just for it to be a bootleg recorded by a FAN that WE are paying for... |
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Post by mortified on Nov 21, 2017 6:39:33 GMT
That's really not good. All we've paid for is new packaging. Sort of. Certainly no pics we haven't seen before.
To be honest, it just sits in the collection anyway. I've heard/watched the gig dozens of times. But that's hardly the point.
Just as a side issue, what's the script with the vinyl then? Same stuff just transferred over?
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Post by snakelady on Nov 21, 2017 8:22:45 GMT
Thank god, I'm not a collector. Think I'd feel cheated .. and not for the first time either.
It seems the guys who put all these special editions, deluxe stuff .. or whatever they care to call it together, are not interested in the band, probably don't really know the material. They're merely in for the quick buck and it very much reminds me of the greatest hits packages Pye used to release and which we talked about recently. Same stuff new package. To have some quality releases with new content, content the fans actually want, someone from the band's side needs to be involved or at least someone who has a personal interest in the band IMO.
Otherwise don't buy it, is all I can say ..
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Post by kursaal75 on Nov 21, 2017 8:58:12 GMT
I was looking forward in getting the re-released deluxe editions when it was announced a few years ago, but held back after reading on various sites, that the bonus material were of inferior quality, so I decided to keep my money in my pocket.
To date I've only purchased the Rockin'All Over The World Remix and very happy with it.
As I attended the NEC Birmingham '82 concert, I was again, excited for the full release, but yet again I was disappointed with the quality and the production issue's.
It's going to take something really special to spend money on this band again.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 21, 2017 9:01:59 GMT
I already had the Turan remaster and the 8(?) disc BBC box set, so are you telling me I have bought the same thing that's simply been chucked together as a 2 disc set ? Yeah, that's right... We paid for a combination of two things everyone (mostly everyone), already owned Well that's fine glad I never bought it. As I have already put this together, I sold my 8 disc copy as I needed the money but ripped the audio first. So I now have a 2 disc set of the 2005 remaster as disc 1 and a homemade disc from 4500 times onwards. No different to whats been released then. |
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