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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:42:21 GMT
So, you agree or don't agree, or just being childish? Not a good day today for this sort of behaviour. Let it be. What I think of his choice in guitars is irrelevant, because it's his choice. I personally wouldn't want one of those, but clearly he liked it enough to make it his main stage guitar. Why whine and complain about other people's tastes? Why post a childish you tube clip?
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 21:44:30 GMT
What I think of his choice in guitars is irrelevant, because it's his choice. I personally wouldn't want one of those, but clearly he liked it enough to make it his main stage guitar. Why whine and complain about other people's tastes? Why post a childish you tube clip? To piss you off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 21:46:40 GMT
Why post a childish you tube clip? To piss you off. Failed, but, today of all days. grow up.
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 22:02:10 GMT
Failed, but, today of all days. grow up. Well, maybe today of all days is not the best time to start ranting about how Francis purposefully chose an "anti Quo" guitar (whatever that means). That's very childish and petty. This board has avoided a lot of that constant negativity directed at Francis for a long time, but clearly it's arrived.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 22:08:14 GMT
Oh, so we see the real niggle, I chose to criticise Rossi's choice of guitar.....a man with millions, who could go to the numerous guitar techs out there who could produce an identical green tele, but didn't, that has got your goat. Sorry, if the truth hurts, but no need for you to behave like a child over it.
As for Rossi negativity, it's here every day!! I speak the truth.
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 22:09:51 GMT
As for Rossi negativity, it's here every day!! I speak the truth. Yeah, I noticed it's here every day... Never used to be like that.
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 22:19:25 GMT
Yeah, I noticed it's here every day... Never used to be like that. But, you just said there wasn't any! Make your mind up!! No, I said that for a long time there wasn't any of that. Recently however, I've noticed things have changed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 22:34:29 GMT
But, you just said there wasn't any! Make your mind up!! No, I said that for a long time there wasn't any of that. Recently however, I've noticed things have changed. Ok, got it, no criticism of Rossi's guitar, KGB, got nothing on this site.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 22:41:56 GMT
So, Sam, answer this question. If you had the millions Rossi has, could you spend say 5k for a guitar tech to make an exact copy of the Green Tele.....an icon of the Quo image? I could get a guitar tech to do it for 2k at most. You see money isn't the issue. The issue is Rossi wanted a guitar that is not Quo. Again, sorry, if the truth hurts.
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 23:02:38 GMT
So, Sam, answer this question. If you had the millions Rossi has, could you spend say 5k for a guitar tech to make an exact copy of the Green Tele.....an icon of the Quo image? I could get a guitar tech to do it for 2k at most. You see money isn't the issue. The issue is Rossi wanted a guitar that is not Quo. Again, sorry, if the truth hurts. Personally, I would probably go for a new Tele, probably not a replica, but a decent Telecaster all the same. But, that's me talking, and like I said before, what we would choose is irrelevant. What make or model of guitar Francis chooses is up to him... You seem to think he chose it just to annoy the fans... Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe, he chose it because he likes it? From Guitar & Bass magazine: “John (Rhino) Edwards has always been happy with his Status Graphite basses, made by Rob Green, and said why not ask him to make me a guitar? Then the old-school thing kicked in and I was being told by some folk, ‘no, it should be wood instead of graphite’. I had one made in a Tele shape with a grey finish, but I couldn’t take to it. Then he came to rehearsals with another finished in green.
“I started talking through my teeth, saying, ‘I don’t need another guitar, let alone a green one’. I plugged it in and went, ‘oh’, and I’ve been playing that ever since. He makes lovely guitars. I call them donkey’s knob guitars, if you know what I mean, I can’t talk highly enough about them. It feels a bit odd sometimes when I look down and it’s not my original green Tele, which I’ve been playing since I was 19.”
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 23:11:12 GMT
insert code here Agree. it's up to Rossi, and my point is, he chose something that is not Quo. Something he must have known would upset a large proportion of fans, and my god, the green tele is part of the Quo image! Quo have been the Green and White Teles since the mid 70s. Why change that, when he can get a guitar tech to make a guitar exactly how he wants it to feel, as a green tele. I assume you don't play guitar, and are not speaking from experience?
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 23:40:39 GMT
insert code here Agree. it's up to Rossi, and my point is, he chose something that is not Quo. Something he must have known would upset a large proportion of fans, and my god, the green tele is part of the Quo image! Quo have been the Green and White Teles since the mid 70s. Why change that, when he can get a guitar tech to make a guitar exactly how he wants it to feel, as a green tele. I assume you don't play guitar, and are not speaking from experience? Sure, the green Tele is iconic. I was just as sad to see it go... But you're making this leap, of assuming that he chose it's replacement out of spite. Yeah, he could have a replica made up no problem, but maybe he liked the Status more, or just fancied a change. BTW... I am a gigging guitarist, and guitar teacher and do know what I'm talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 23:49:49 GMT
So you agree, Rossi could have easily gone for green tele replacement, but chose not to, read into that what you will.
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Post by Sam on Jan 19, 2017 23:55:13 GMT
So you agree, Rossi could have easily gone for green tele replacement, but chose not to, read into that what you will. I don't read anything into it. That's my point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 23:56:55 GMT
So you agree, Rossi could have easily gone for green tele replacement, but chose not to, read into that what you will. I don't read anything into it. That's my point. And my point is....why change a quo icon when you can afford not to.
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Post by Sam on Jan 20, 2017 0:17:01 GMT
I don't read anything into it. That's my point. And my point is....why change a quo icon when you can afford not to. Maybe he puts tone and playability before image... Or maybe he just doesn't see it as iconic in the way we do. Whatever the reason, I think it's pathetic to automatically assume he did it just out of spite.
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Post by taximan2002 on Jan 20, 2017 0:56:25 GMT
I've waited until after midnight to show a bit of respect for the sad event yesterday, I can now snigger and ask, what is an anti Quo guitar...??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 0:57:16 GMT
And my point is....why change a quo icon when you can afford not to. Maybe he puts tone and playability before image... Or maybe he just doesn't see it as iconic in the way we do. Whatever the reason, I think it's pathetic to automatically assume he did it just out of spite. I think you are being too PC. name another band that would change their icon, part of their history. You say you are a guitar teacher, you can get the tone and playablity however you want, and especially out of a tele.....I think you are defending the indefensible. Give me 2k and I will build you a green tele, the same as Rossi's. i also play a tele, so don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, Oh, and you are saying the tele sound that suited quo for 40 years was suddenly not suitible.....you are defending the indefensible
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Post by taximan2002 on Jan 20, 2017 1:04:26 GMT
insert code here Agree. it's up to Rossi, and my point is, he chose something that is not Quo. Something he must have known would upset a large proportion of fans, and my god, the green tele is part of the Quo image! Quo have been the Green and White Teles since the mid 70s. Why change that, when he can get a guitar tech to make a guitar exactly how he wants it to feel, as a green tele. I assume you don't play guitar, and are not speaking from experience? Sure, the green Tele is iconic. I was just as sad to see it go... But you're making this leap, of assuming that he chose it's replacement out of spite. Yeah, he could have a replica made up no problem, but maybe he liked the Status more, or just fancied a change. BTW... I am a gigging guitarist, and guitar teacher and do know what I'm talking about. I remember an old video that I had, Annie Nightingale was interviewing them and Rossi said then that he had a love hate relationship with the green Tele and that must have been about 1991. To say he's deliberately changed it to a different type just out of spite is tin foil hat stuff...
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jan 20, 2017 2:30:06 GMT
Maybe he puts tone and playability before image... Or maybe he just doesn't see it as iconic in the way we do. Whatever the reason, I think it's pathetic to automatically assume he did it just out of spite. I think you are being too PC. name another band that would change their icon, part of their history. You say you are a guitar teacher, you can get the tone and playablity however you want, and especially out of a tele.....I think you are defending the indefensible. Give me 2k and I will build you a green tele, the same as Rossi's. i also play a tele, so don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, Oh, and you are saying the tele sound that suited quo for 40 years was suddenly not suitible.....you are defending the indefensible Thing is he had already Changed it's Tele sound 25 years ago when he put the lace sensors on it. That was after he played an ASAT. He could have changed his main guitar back then and left the original alone. Personally I have not liked the look of it as much since then. However it's his guitar and he had the right to do with it as he pleases. He has said in the past that it's his Stage work tool. He has not recorded that many albums with it. Billy Gibbons was famous for "Pearly Gates" though he has not played that live for a very long time. He hardly uses a Les Paul at all these days.
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Post by Sam on Jan 20, 2017 3:38:23 GMT
Maybe he puts tone and playability before image... Or maybe he just doesn't see it as iconic in the way we do. Whatever the reason, I think it's pathetic to automatically assume he did it just out of spite. I think you are being too PC. name another band that would change their icon, part of their history. You say you are a guitar teacher, you can get the tone and playablity however you want, and especially out of a tele.....I think you are defending the indefensible. Give me 2k and I will build you a green tele, the same as Rossi's. i also play a tele, so don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, Oh, and you are saying the tele sound that suited quo for 40 years was suddenly not suitible.....you are defending the indefensible The only thing indefensible here is your paranoid belief that Francis is out to upset the fans with his choice of equipment. Quo is probably not going to be around for much longer, and they've wound down with the electric sets. So why would he have a replica made of a guitar he has a "love-hate relationship" with, that he has in the past described as a "sack of ", that he'd probably only use for a couple of tours and then never bother with again? As it happens, he's clearly found a guitar that he likes to play, that he'll probably continue to use in his studio for years to come, long after Quo retires from touring. Yes it's a shame to see the green Tele go, and it's replacement is a bit unusual, but suggesting it's some kind of devious plan by Francis to destroy Quo's image is ludicrous.
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Post by Sam on Jan 20, 2017 3:42:56 GMT
I think you are being too PC. name another band that would change their icon, part of their history. You say you are a guitar teacher, you can get the tone and playablity however you want, and especially out of a tele.....I think you are defending the indefensible. Give me 2k and I will build you a green tele, the same as Rossi's. i also play a tele, so don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, Oh, and you are saying the tele sound that suited quo for 40 years was suddenly not suitible.....you are defending the indefensible Thing is he had already Changed it's Tele sound 25 years ago when he put the lace sensors on it. That was after he played an ASAT. He could have changed his main guitar back then and left the original alone. Personally I have not liked the look of it as much since then. However it's his guitar and he had the right to do with it as he pleases. He has said in the past that it's his Stage work tool. He has not recorded that many albums with it. Billy Gibbons was famous for "Pearly Gates" though he has not played that live for a very long time. He hardly uses a Les Paul at all these days. I think it's sort of the opposite situation with Pearly Gates. Billy Gibbons loves that guitar, and hasn't used it live for fear of it getting lost or damaged, but as I understand it he does use it a lot in the studio.
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Post by Sam on Jan 20, 2017 3:49:26 GMT
Sure, the green Tele is iconic. I was just as sad to see it go... But you're making this leap, of assuming that he chose it's replacement out of spite. Yeah, he could have a replica made up no problem, but maybe he liked the Status more, or just fancied a change. BTW... I am a gigging guitarist, and guitar teacher and do know what I'm talking about. I remember an old video that I had, Annie Nightingale was interviewing them and Rossi said then that he had a love hate relationship with the green Tele and that must have been about 1991. To say he's deliberately changed it to a different type just out of spite is tin foil hat stuff... There's a much more recent one called Me And My Guitar, which is quite easy to find on YouTube, with both Rick and Francis interviewed... Francis says the same thing there.
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Post by taximan2002 on Jan 20, 2017 3:50:22 GMT
I remember an old video that I had, Annie Nightingale was interviewing them and Rossi said then that he had a love hate relationship with the green Tele and that must have been about 1991. To say he's deliberately changed it to a different type just out of spite is tin foil hat stuff... There's a much more recent one called Me And My Guitar, which is quite easy to find on YouTube, with both Rick and Francis interviewed... Francis says the same thing there. Yeah, watched that again the other day..
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Post by snakelady on Jan 20, 2017 8:05:41 GMT
I don't read anything into it. That's my point. And my point is....why change a quo icon when you can afford not to. I've been a fan since the 70s as well and was used to Francis playing the green one on stage. He did use others as well though and we knew that in the studio he rarely played it and why should he ? He loved the sound of various guitars and we loved the music. To me it's as simple as that. As long as he plays the music I like I couldn't care less how his guitar looks or what he wears on stage. And I assume if he feels comfortable with the instrument he can more concentrate on the playing. I know that Francis has stated more than once that he simply considers the guitar the tool for his work and maybe that's why he changed the pick-ups and whatever before as well - to suit his changed perception how it should sound/can be played. Fans from the 60s on could've got very upset when he decided to change the colour from sunburst to green. Francis has always considered the guitar an instrument to make music with - not a symbol or a Quo icon. He drilled a hole in it even (for whichever purpose ?). That was OK for you though I guess, because that's how the guitar looked when you got into the band, while in reality it was just one look of many - and just one guitar among many. The marketing concentrating on the two crossed teles only was invented when the band reformed anyway, if I remember correctly, but maybe this considering them icons is a consequence from that.
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