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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 13, 2019 12:13:55 GMT
So, week in and my favourites are starting to come to the fore. I've only had the chance to play this in the car, no fancy headphone shenanigans for me, no sire!! Something has happened to me with Liberty Lane. After hearing it on YT and then live, to on the radio and finally at my disposal. After about 20 listens, from thinking pretty OK to Mmmmm to an out and out love. That chorus is nigh on perfection and that "here's the thing" line is bordering on genius, changing the meaning of the lyric and linking the melody beautifully. I seriously, seriously love this song. I also think Backing Off is great, it doesn't go where you expect it to go, the guitar tone is to die for and I wonder who the lyrics are about, Alan Lancaster? A Parfitt family member? I conject. Get Out Of My Head has a bit of a MKGS era feel to me, and there's absolutely nothing wrong in that. I like the way I See You In Some Trouble explodes with swagger after the acoustic guitars, and it reminds me of The Everly Brothers' Claudette in parts. Waiting For A Woman nearly goes in to Give Me All Your Lovin so many times it must be deliberate, especially when the guitar solo has the same tones as Billy Gibbons. Good start to the album though. Better Take Care reminds me of something from the seventies, and it's not Sweet Home Alabama!! Falling Off The World is part TRAOY era with a dash of late seventies Quo, and it works. Cut Me Some Slack is cut from the same cloth as CUOY and Bella Vista Man, only this is much better. I really like this album. I am surprised by how much I like it. Agree with you about LL and Backing Off Col. Apparently the Backing Off lyrics are about Andrew getting a message from Francis and then backing off and coming up with that lyric. Francis mentioned it in one of his recent interviews, can't remember where.
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Post by mortified on Sept 13, 2019 12:24:30 GMT
Liberty Lane and that "here's the thing" line is bordering on genius, I also think Backing Off is great, it doesn't go where you expect it to go, the guitar tone is to die for and I wonder who the lyrics are about, Alan Lancaster? A Parfitt family member? I conject.( I See You're In Some Trouble) reminds me of The Everly BrothersWaiting For A Woman nearly goes in to Give Me All Your Lovin so many times it must be deliberate, especially when the guitar solo has the same tones as Billy Gibbons. Good start to the album though. " now here's the thing...."; the best part of the entire song. For some inexplicable reason 3 or 4 words gels the sentiment of the whole thing. I can't remember where I read it but I think it was about an argument between Andy and Francis which they now laugh about. I thought it was in the FTMO but it isn't. " do everybody a favour, baby; cut me some slack"; another genius line! Yep, I thought Everly Brothers at first when I heard I See You're In Some Trouble. Shouldn't really surprise us Wullie Gibbons; we are of the same mind
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 13, 2019 12:32:00 GMT
13. Face the Music. 9.5. Oh my god, yes!!!!! Richie Malone, take a bow. As you may have read on my topic about this, I love this song. The opening riff is catchy, the guitars are crunchy, it’s strong melodically , the chorus stays in your head, it’s a great lead break...it’s magic, this track. The only thing that stops it being a ten for me is that at the end , the riff could have gone on for a few more bars as it’s very hooky...it ends too soon. This track is totally wasted as a bonus...it’s radio friendly and should have been part of the first eleven. The first time I listened to the album it was in strict playing order so by the time I got to Face The Music, I was beginning to wane a bit so didn't really take it in. Next time, I shuffled them around a bit, giving the later tracks more attention. And I completely agree; this song is a thing of beauty. I suspect they all are. One thing I did notice was that every single song has a hook. Every one gets into your head very quickly. I'm replying to Cammy as well as Morty....I too now love Face the Music! It has grown on me so much this week. Maybe like you Billy, I kind of missed it because it's right at the end. It is pop/rock, but it is really really catchy. I would have definitely put it on the main album and hoped that Radio 2 picked up on it. I agree with you Morty that every song has a catchy hook and gets into your head. I would have liked a few of the outros/endings to have been extended, but I do love the album as a whole. I think these days Francis loves the melody, the words, even the hook or riff, but doesn't put enough value on the intros, outros and solos. I think when a song has a good riff he should 'trust it' more and showcase it more, especially in the outro. There are at least 3 occasions on this album where I was crying out for the outro to be longer; Face the Music and Backing Off spring to mind, possibly Get Out of my Head as well. Good/extended intros, outros and solos are what turns a good Quo song into a great (or much better) Quo song!
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Post by snakelady on Sept 14, 2019 6:02:14 GMT
Agree about LL and FTM. What's Here's The Thing for LL is You Better Face The Music for FTM - simply perfect. Basically all choruses are great (and I too think this word is overused, Francis ) !
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Post by noproblems on Sept 14, 2019 8:30:35 GMT
I can tell that you're all very excited about this are offering, but it doesn't do much for me. And I have given it a fair number of plays on You Tube.
It's not a bad album - they've done far worse. It'll be like Heavy Traffic.
Sorry to be a party pooper.
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Post by mortified on Sept 14, 2019 8:53:14 GMT
Can I just stand up and say that in terms of guilty pleasures I've always rather liked Sail Away. So I sort of find Crazy Crazy quite charming and listenable There. It's out of the closet now
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Post by mortified on Sept 14, 2019 8:53:54 GMT
I can tell that you're all very excited about this are offering, but it doesn't do much for me. And I have given it a fair number of plays on You Tube. It's not a bad album - they've done far worse. It'll be like Heavy Traffic. Sorry to be a party pooper. Not at all. You like what you like. Actually, it'd be pretty dull if we all thought it was best thing since sliced bread. Which is a bizarre expression when you analyse it. I mean, what was the best thing before sliced bread?
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Post by wishing4oldquo on Sept 14, 2019 17:32:26 GMT
Can I just stand up and say that in terms of guilty pleasures I've always rather liked Sail Away. So I sort of find Crazy Crazy quite charming and listenable There. It's out of the closet now Hi Mortified Isn't saying "I sort of find CC quite charming and listenable...." a bit of faint praise? I have always enjoyed your balanced positivity, right back to the days of the official forum, but on this occasion can I politely ask you to take all known copies of Crazy Crazy back into your closet, and to keep every single one of them in there, forever? "Not one single 'howler' on the whole album" I said with glee.....and then I heard CC! PS, hopefully said closet it very well sound proofed too.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 14, 2019 19:42:20 GMT
Can I just stand up and say that in terms of guilty pleasures I've always rather liked Sail Away. So I sort of find Crazy Crazy quite charming and listenable There. It's out of the closet now Hi Mortified Isn't saying "I sort of find CC quite charming and listenable...." a bit of faint praise? I have always enjoyed your balanced positivity, right back to the days of the official forum, but on this occasion can I politely ask you to take all known copies of Crazy Crazy back into your closet, and to keep every single one of them in there, forever? "Not one single 'howler' on the whole album" I said with glee.....and then I heard CC! PS, hopefully said closet it very well sound proofed too. As far as the general public and the music press are concerned, it's an 11 track album....nothing else matters! To the rest of us, we get one bonus track for being loyal fans, and an Irish/country/folk song to punish us for when we've complained about the band!
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Post by wishing4oldquo on Sept 14, 2019 20:00:13 GMT
Hi Mortified Isn't saying "I sort of find CC quite charming and listenable...." a bit of faint praise? I have always enjoyed your balanced positivity, right back to the days of the official forum, but on this occasion can I politely ask you to take all known copies of Crazy Crazy back into your closet, and to keep every single one of them in there, forever? "Not one single 'howler' on the whole album" I said with glee.....and then I heard CC! PS, hopefully said closet it very well sound proofed too. As far as the general public and the music press are concerned, it's an 11 track album....nothing else matters! To the rest of us, we get one bonus track for being loyal fans, and an Irish/country/folk song to punish us for when we've complained about the band! We deserved MORE punishment?!
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Sept 14, 2019 20:46:06 GMT
Can I just stand up and say that in terms of guilty pleasures I've always rather liked Sail Away. So I sort of find Crazy Crazy quite charming and listenable There. It's out of the closet now So do I Morty
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 14, 2019 21:09:22 GMT
Can I just stand up and say that in terms of guilty pleasures I've always rather liked Sail Away. So I sort of find Crazy Crazy quite charming and listenable There. It's out of the closet now So do I Morty So do I to be honest. But I still don't think it should be on a Quo album these days....especially one as good as this!
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Post by snakelady on Sept 15, 2019 6:17:06 GMT
I don't like Sail Away - or the whole of the TW album for that matter. Even the few good songs (Soft In The Head ..) sound bad due to the overall sound of the album. I love the sound of the BB album though and while I didn't like it at first, I'm starting to get used to CC. And I don't get this 'shouldn't be on a Quo album' thing. IMO good Quo albums have always been diverse and given us all kinds of tempos and styles and with it quite a few surprises too - and we complain when they're too same-ish like QPQ. CC is written by Francis and Andy. So as long as these two don't consider a duo album, where else would it end up ? I actually enjoy it, when they include tunes you'd not expect on a Quo album. Fine Fine Fine doesn't fit on Quo the least bit and if it were a recent album there'd be many who'd come up with the exact same line 'should've been put on a solo album ..'. But then Saddling Up put a smile on my face as well, Quo album or not, and for me is another facet that adds to the overall enjoyment of the album. I actually find it courageous to record stuff like this, when they know how predictable their fans are .. . What does matter for me is the quality of songs, sound, arrangements .. and I can't complain about any of that in this case !
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Post by wishing4oldquo on Sept 15, 2019 11:33:22 GMT
I don't like Sail Away - or the whole of the TW album for that matter. Even the few good songs (Soft In The Head ..) sound bad due to the overall sound of the album. I love the sound of the BB album though and while I didn't like it at first, I'm starting to get used to CC. And I don't get this 'shouldn't be on a Quo album' thing. IMO good Quo albums have always been diverse and given us all kinds of tempos and styles and with it quite a few surprises too - and we complain when they're too same-ish like QPQ. CC is written by Francis and Andy. So as long as these two don't consider a duo album, where else would it end up ? I actually enjoy it, when they include tunes you'd not expect on a Quo album. Fine Fine Fine doesn't fit on Quo the least bit and if it were a recent album there'd be many who'd come up with the exact same line 'should've been put on a solo album ..'. But then Saddling Up put a smile on my face as well, Quo album or not, and for me is another facet that adds to the overall enjoyment of the album. I actually find it courageous to record stuff like this, when they know how predictable their fans are .. . What does matter for me is the quality of songs, sound, arrangements .. and I can't complain about any of that in this case ! For me, it does work perfectly on Quo, which to this day remains my favourite ever album, by any band. Not sure whether this is disagreeing with your point, or just nuancing it, but I think that the 'context', 'blend', 'mix' (call it what you will) of songs on an album are crucial - that's why compilations (of artists), or even 'best of' albums of the same band don't 'gel' for me. Likewise, I never like it when a live track is thrown onto a new album as a 'bonus' track - it never works. So, that being the case, how can FFF fit into/onto SQ's heaviest ever album by far? Not sure, but it does: coming back to your 'diversity' point, it offers some respite from the raw heaviness of the album, Rossi's light and cheerful vocal is in massive contrast to Lancaster's heavy rock vocals, and contrasts his own, more 'urgent' vocal on the barnstormer that is Slow Train. But, here's the thing - FFF, whilst undoubtedly 'country' has a 'rawness' about it, in keeping with the album, it doesn't include 'non-Quo instruments' (if you will excuse the prejudice), and it has a charming simplicity, which CC doesn't. And, FFF doesn't make me picture Woody and other Toy Story characters dancing in a way that CC does....I love Toy Story, to which Crazy Crazy is much better suited, rather than Quo's best album in decades.
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Post by mortified on Sept 15, 2019 13:48:28 GMT
I should've kept quiet. I've unleashed a backlash
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Post by snakelady on Sept 15, 2019 14:46:47 GMT
I don't like Sail Away - or the whole of the TW album for that matter. Even the few good songs (Soft In The Head ..) sound bad due to the overall sound of the album. I love the sound of the BB album though and while I didn't like it at first, I'm starting to get used to CC. And I don't get this 'shouldn't be on a Quo album' thing. IMO good Quo albums have always been diverse and given us all kinds of tempos and styles and with it quite a few surprises too - and we complain when they're too same-ish like QPQ. CC is written by Francis and Andy. So as long as these two don't consider a duo album, where else would it end up ? I actually enjoy it, when they include tunes you'd not expect on a Quo album. Fine Fine Fine doesn't fit on Quo the least bit and if it were a recent album there'd be many who'd come up with the exact same line 'should've been put on a solo album ..'. But then Saddling Up put a smile on my face as well, Quo album or not, and for me is another facet that adds to the overall enjoyment of the album. I actually find it courageous to record stuff like this, when they know how predictable their fans are .. . What does matter for me is the quality of songs, sound, arrangements .. and I can't complain about any of that in this case ! For me, it does work perfectly on Quo, which to this day remains my favourite ever album, by any band. Not sure whether this is disagreeing with your point, or just nuancing it, but I think that the 'context', 'blend', 'mix' (call it what you will) of songs on an album are crucial - that's why compilations (of artists), or even 'best of' albums of the same band don't 'gel' for me. Likewise, I never like it when a live track is thrown onto a new album as a 'bonus' track - it never works. So, that being the case, how can FFF fit into/onto SQ's heaviest ever album by far? Not sure, but it does: coming back to your 'diversity' point, it offers some respite from the raw heaviness of the album, Rossi's light and cheerful vocal is in massive contrast to Lancaster's heavy rock vocals, and contrasts his own, more 'urgent' vocal on the barnstormer that is Slow Train. But, here's the thing - FFF, whilst undoubtedly 'country' has a 'rawness' about it, in keeping with the album, it doesn't include 'non-Quo instruments' (if you will excuse the prejudice), and it has a charming simplicity, which CC doesn't. And, FFF doesn't make me picture Woody and other Toy Story characters dancing in a way that CC does....I love Toy Story, to which Crazy Crazy is much better suited, rather than Quo's best album in decades. That line about toy story made me laugh . Nope, it rather looks like we're agreeing that it's different styles and tempos what we love about a Quo album, not just the Quo album . Some songs work better for some of us than others, naturally. Actually both Rossi/Young tunes on Quo are country flavoured and therefor kind of a counterpoint to the heavy tracks. Raw, yes, but all 70s album were, the way they were recorded: Set up the stage gear, sit all down in one room, play and record it with analogue equipment. That's recording history though and won't happen again. The one type of song I've been missing from later albums is the long Slow Train type songs. I know, with attention spans of goldfish, that most seem to merely have these days, they're not in demand anymore generally. I couldn't help but think though while listening to BB 'wouldn't it be great if this or that tune had a really long solo and maybe outro as well ?' IMO there are songs on the album with interesting solos that would've merited the treatment. Probably won't happen again either ..
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 16, 2019 19:16:24 GMT
I don't like Sail Away - or the whole of the TW album for that matter. Even the few good songs (Soft In The Head ..) sound bad due to the overall sound of the album. I love the sound of the BB album though and while I didn't like it at first, I'm starting to get used to CC. And I don't get this 'shouldn't be on a Quo album' thing. IMO good Quo albums have always been diverse and given us all kinds of tempos and styles and with it quite a few surprises too - and we complain when they're too same-ish like QPQ. CC is written by Francis and Andy. So as long as these two don't consider a duo album, where else would it end up ? I actually enjoy it, when they include tunes you'd not expect on a Quo album. Fine Fine Fine doesn't fit on Quo the least bit and if it were a recent album there'd be many who'd come up with the exact same line 'should've been put on a solo album ..'. But then Saddling Up put a smile on my face as well, Quo album or not, and for me is another facet that adds to the overall enjoyment of the album. I actually find it courageous to record stuff like this, when they know how predictable their fans are .. . What does matter for me is the quality of songs, sound, arrangements .. and I can't complain about any of that in this case ! Each to their own....just the way I feel at the moment. I love the album, and at the end of the day Crazy Crazy is 'only' a bonus track. I quite like the song actually, I've just developed this thing about certain songs not fitting on a Quo album, the 'brand' if you like. Francis and the band decided to put it on there, I wouldn't have....just a difference of opinion. I did say that with it being written by Francis and Andrew that it would be difficult to put it anywhere other than a Quo album. I don't mind Quo albums that sound very samey, but then I have no problem at all with different styles and different tempos....I just don't think this fits (possibly why it is a bonus track and not in the first 11)! I came to all the albums up to Perfect Remedy after they were released, and it felt different coming to something after the event. When something is new and fresh it feels ok to discuss it in a different way. So I had no problem with Fine Fine Fine being on Quo, because that is how it was. But if it came out now I would probably think, that shouldn't be on there, you should've put Lonely Night on instead (definitely should have by the way)! I haven't got a problem with Saddling Up and songs like that, it's just something about the style of CC. Excluding the Bula Quo soundtrack, I think I'd probably have to go back to Sail Away, Tommy, and half of the Perfect Remedy album to find the last songs that I didn't think should have been on a Quo album. I like Marguerita Time and it was a very big hit for Quo, (and they would probably have been stupid to give it away for someone else to have a hit with), but does it fit in with their 'brand' of music, no. I'm rambling now! There's no right and wrong here....this is just my current opinion.
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 17, 2019 9:28:35 GMT
After that, they're all pretty good. No skip tracks yet, although I think I Wanna Run Away With You may end up that way. If someone wanted to do a parody of Quo, and a fairly poor one, this might be the road they'd go down. It actually reminds me a little of Ease Your Mind, not only in style but also in the fact that it's a so-so track on a very good album. By the way, anyone listened to the live album yet? Nah, me neither 1) eclipsed have marked this as the highlight track! 2) I have. Some decent performances picked, but the fading in and out of endings and applause (not to mention ITAN coming too early) detracts from the listening experience. Mastered a bit too loud (unlike the album), but with a better mix than most of the Paxman-mixed live stuff.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Sept 17, 2019 14:06:50 GMT
Still playing this in the car on the way to and from work. Still not skipping any tracks. Favourite track is still Face the Music. Closely followed by a number of others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 16:37:09 GMT
Well for one reason or another (holiday, greenhouse building, work etc), I’ve only just got round to downloading the album off iTunes although I have listened to it a couple of times on Amazon Music.
Backing Off and Get out of my head are the two tracks I’m really enjoying, but the whole album is really very good.
Can’t wait to get my gig ticket now....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2019 19:13:57 GMT
Been playing it all day in my van and at home.
Not a bad track on it is there?
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Post by snakelady on Oct 2, 2019 7:23:30 GMT
After having listening to the album a lot more by now - actually one tune or other is constantly playing in my head, whether I want to or not - I've changed my opinion about a few things somewhat. I now really like Waiting For A Woman and think it makes a great opener. This slow sedate starter that leads into the album followed by the bang that is Cut Me Some Slack is an appealing combination. Then the absolute highlight that is Liberty Lane follows - now they got you, hook line and sinker. Emphasis on hook - there isn't a song on this that doesn't have a catchy hook, see my first sentence ^^. And I've come to like Crazy Crazy. It took a little longer to get it, but now I think it fits in perfectly. I remember when Insider posted about the new album and how well he considered Francis singing. He was absolutely right. Ritchie does a good job of his tune too and it's great to have a second singer on an album again. Maybe next time let him sing a second tune ? The two weakest tunes IMO are I Wanna Run Away With You and Falling Off The World. Both are a bit too much Quo by numbers for my taste, but still pleasant enough to not consider them skip tracks. So far I still don't skip a single song actually and that's a very rare occurrence with me. There's so many little bits going on in the songs, the arrangements and production are outstanding - up there with RTYD IMO. So well done Francis.
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Post by mortified on Oct 2, 2019 8:16:46 GMT
Listened to it a few times myself now. Maybe half a dozen times all the way through. I'm not sure much has changed since my first impressions. Waiting For A Woman and Cut Me Some Slack are the best tracks for me by a mile and it's a cracking opening to the album. I guess I'm one of the few that thinks Liberty Lane is no more than OK. It's not a skip track by any means but it's not essential listening for me either. Maybe I'm just getting bored with it. I suppose one thing that has changed is that I Wanna Run Away With You sounds less like a parody than I first thought. It's actually not half bad. I do absolutely love those two breaks in Falling Off The World. Quo haven't done something like that in a song in a very long time. Leon has his finger on the FF pulse with that one. No question. Sis made a very good point when I spoke to her at the weekend. She really likes the album but also admitted that she loved parts of songs throughout the whole thing. There was something in every song she liked even if she wasn't sold on an entire track. All in all, a very good album if not an outstanding one. Just as an aside while we're talking about first impressions. I was just thinking the other day that Rick's Over And Out made more of a first impression on me than Backbone did. Things have levelled out and I probably like both equally now. But it was an interesting comparison that came into my head. Actually, I felt the same way about Rhino's Revenge II. But all very good so the comparisons are almost redundant.
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Post by mortified on Oct 4, 2019 11:54:43 GMT
For me, it does work perfectly on Quo, which to this day remains my favourite ever album, by any band. Not sure whether this is disagreeing with your point, or just nuancing it, but I think that the 'context', 'blend', 'mix' (call it what you will) of songs on an album are crucial - that's why compilations (of artists), or even 'best of' albums of the same band don't 'gel' for me. Likewise, I never like it when a live track is thrown onto a new album as a 'bonus' track - it never works. So, that being the case, how can FFF fit into/onto SQ's heaviest ever album by far? Not sure, but it does: coming back to your 'diversity' point, it offers some respite from the raw heaviness of the album, Rossi's light and cheerful vocal is in massive contrast to Lancaster's heavy rock vocals, and contrasts his own, more 'urgent' vocal on the barnstormer that is Slow Train. But, here's the thing - FFF, whilst undoubtedly 'country' has a 'rawness' about it, in keeping with the album, it doesn't include 'non-Quo instruments' (if you will excuse the prejudice), and it has a charming simplicity, which CC doesn't. And, FFF doesn't make me picture Woody and other Toy Story characters dancing in a way that CC does....I love Toy Story, to which Crazy Crazy is much better suited, rather than Quo's best album in decades. That line about toy story made me laugh . Nope, it rather looks like we're agreeing that it's different styles and tempos what we love about a Quo album, not just the Quo album . Some songs work better for some of us than others, naturally. Actually both Rossi/Young tunes on Quo are country flavoured and therefor kind of a counterpoint to the heavy tracks. Raw, yes, but all 70s album were, the way they were recorded: Set up the stage gear, sit all down in one room, play and record it with analogue equipment. That's recording history though and won't happen again. The one type of song I've been missing from later albums is the long Slow Train type songs. I know, with attention spans of goldfish, that most seem to merely have these days, they're not in demand anymore generally. I couldn't help but think though while listening to BB 'wouldn't it be great if this or that tune had a really long solo and maybe outro as well ?' IMO there are songs on the album with interesting solos that would've merited the treatment. Probably won't happen again either .. Part of the interview in Record Collector has Francis bemoaning the Quo album from 1974 where he says it simply isn't what the band were about, not even back then. I know it's many fans' favourite Quo album and I tend to disagree with Francis's comments about it because quite plainly Rick and Alan disagreed and they were as much a part of the band as Francis at the time. Quo are what you want them to be and this album, to me, was no different in approach than, say, Piledriver with it's mixture of harder tracks and softer songs. The production was different, that was all. Fine Fine Fine, Break The Rules and Lonely Man break it all up nicely. It's not breakneck heavy rock all the way through. Maybe he's just miffed that most of the songs weren't his But, let's face it, he co-wrote what many think is the best track on it. The best track on many a Quo album in fact!
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Post by sutekh on Oct 6, 2019 14:05:28 GMT
I've listened to the album several times now and haven't been grabbed by any particular song. The thing it lacks for me is the bluesy ingredient that my favourite Quo songs contain.
There are hints here and there of late 70s Quo but also too many reminders of Thirsty Work. The best tracks are Waiting For A Woman and Cut Me Some Slack. I See You're in Trouble and Backing Off are both bordering on the bizarre. What is that middle section in the latter supposed to be?
Better Take Care isn't as confident as the original John David version but I wouldn't be surprised if it picks up a lot of airplay if released as a single. Quite a clever lyric about climate change from John David in that one.
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