|
Post by Quoincidence on Aug 16, 2018 23:54:02 GMT
Rollin’ Home is slightly different on the album version compared to to the single near the end of the song but it’s mimimal. Pip didn’t do the Sharon the Nag mix of the Wanderer- I asked him about this on the old board and he had no idea about it. It was probably the same guy that did the In The Army Now Remix... it's a bit strange for them to get Jeff and Rhino to put their parts onto a song from 4 years prior
|
|
mortified
Administrator
This is no' gettin' the bairn a shirt
Posts: 5,563
|
Post by mortified on Aug 17, 2018 6:12:49 GMT
... Under The Influence would be the same but that album always seems to be treated differently to the rest... 'Under The Influence' is treated differently due to the fact it was a different record company - Eagle Rock - whereas all the previous albums were under imprints owned by Universal Music Group. Yeah, I was aware of that but I thought they might have eventually been able to pull it in with the rest. Under The Influence is now under licence to Edel Germany and the rest are under licence to Universal Music. But they all seem to be 'Fourth Chord Records'. Not that it matters really. It was just an observation. Its a bit like buying the James Bond box set and not getting Never Say Never Again
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Aug 17, 2018 8:55:07 GMT
'Under The Influence' is treated differently due to the fact it was a different record company - Eagle Rock - whereas all the previous albums were under imprints owned by Universal Music Group. Yeah, I was aware of that but I thought they might have eventually been able to pull it in with the rest. Under The Influence is now under licence to Edel Germany and the rest are under licence to Universal Music. But they all seem to be 'Fourth Chord Records'. Not that it matters really. It was just an observation. Its a bit like buying the James Bond box set and not getting Never Say Never Again Universal own the albums up until Thirsty Work which is next year, after that they only have the rights to the Covers Albums, so they'll be out the year after next more than likely. I'm still hoping for a digital remaster of Heavy Traffic (because it needs it) and a lovely vinyl release of that
|
|
mortified
Administrator
This is no' gettin' the bairn a shirt
Posts: 5,563
|
Post by mortified on Aug 17, 2018 14:10:37 GMT
Yeah, I was aware of that but I thought they might have eventually been able to pull it in with the rest. Under The Influence is now under licence to Edel Germany and the rest are under licence to Universal Music. But they all seem to be 'Fourth Chord Records'. Not that it matters really. It was just an observation. Its a bit like buying the James Bond box set and not getting Never Say Never Again Universal own the albums up until Thirsty Work which is next year, after that they only have the rights to the Covers Albums, so they'll be out the year after next more than likely. I'm still hoping for a digital remaster of Heavy Traffic (because it needs it) and a lovely vinyl release of thatI'm SO with you on that one!!
|
|
|
Post by snakelady on Aug 20, 2018 7:38:00 GMT
Thirsty Work would need the John Eden treatment IMO. Remix it from scratch and maybe some decent songs will come of it. Tinkering with the sound won't be enough IMA(amateurish)O .. Agree with both of you about Heavy Traffic. Add the singles from the time (YCR, TOY, L ..) and it'll be a must have.
|
|
gav
Wild Horse
Posts: 98
|
Post by gav on Aug 20, 2018 17:47:02 GMT
Thirsty Work would need the John Eden treatment IMO. Remix it from scratch and maybe some decent songs will come of it. Tinkering with the sound won't be enough IMA(amateurish)O .. It needs a warmer, less synthetic sound. The guitars need to be a bit crunchier and in your face, the drums less of a big 80's sound. I think it could be half decent then.
Oh, and less songs.
|
|
|
Post by snakelady on Aug 21, 2018 6:40:43 GMT
Thirsty Work would need the John Eden treatment IMO. Remix it from scratch and maybe some decent songs will come of it. Tinkering with the sound won't be enough IMA(amateurish)O .. It needs a warmer, less synthetic sound. The guitars need to be a bit crunchier and in your face, the drums less of a big 80's sound. I think it could be half decent then.
Oh, and less songs.
Sounds like a start. Why he didn't keep the RTYD sound, which is brilliant IMO, will always remain a mystery to me. The number of songs doesn't much bother me though. I merely transfer those I like to the hard drive - so not many so far ..
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Aug 22, 2018 19:11:04 GMT
It needs a warmer, less synthetic sound. The guitars need to be a bit crunchier and in your face, the drums less of a big 80's sound. I think it could be half decent then.
Oh, and less songs.
Sounds like a start. Why he didn't keep the RTYD sound, which is brilliant IMO, will always remain a mystery to me. The number of songs doesn't much bother me though. I merely transfer those I like to the hard drive - so not many so far .. RTYD is possibly the best sounding album the current lineup have had, still to this day... I think the Party Album comes close cause that was one of Paxman's better albums but still nothing comes close. Also, Rick was meant to sing Sherri Don't Fail Me Now but he turned it down as he didn't want to, so Rossi took lead vocal instead, so they had to change the key for it to suit his voice
|
|
mortified
Administrator
This is no' gettin' the bairn a shirt
Posts: 5,563
|
Post by mortified on Aug 29, 2018 7:31:22 GMT
Sounds like a start. Why he didn't keep the RTYD sound, which is brilliant IMO, will always remain a mystery to me. The number of songs doesn't much bother me though. I merely transfer those I like to the hard drive - so not many so far .. RTYD is possibly the best sounding album the current lineup have had, still to this day... I think the Party Album comes close cause that was one of Paxman's better albums but still nothing comes close. Also, Rick was meant to sing Sherri Don't Fail Me Now but he turned it down as he didn't want to, so Rossi took lead vocal instead, so they had to change the key for it to suit his voice Coz it was rotten? Not a fave of mine. Quite the reverse in fact. I've never really liked Thirsty Work but I'm hardly unique amongst Quo fans there. If Francis thought there was too much shade and not enough light on Heavy Traffic (which I think he once said), it was probably the opposite for the rest of us with this one. I like the sound of Rock 'til You Drop but I've always had an issue with most of Francis's solo work on it. It sounds tired and uninspired a lot of the time. Nevertheless, it was a breath of fresh air after what had come previously. An oasis in a 10 year desert.
|
|
frozenhero
Administrator
Drop-D beautiful
Posts: 1,420
|
Post by frozenhero on Sept 5, 2018 9:45:35 GMT
Interesting that we're told that Rollin' Home is the album/12" version. There was only one version I think. The 7" version was slightly edited. It's 25 seconds shorter! One less chorus at the end i think.. Rollin’ Home is slightly different on the album version compared to to the single near the end of the song but it’s mimimal. This, like the ITAN and Dreamin' 7" edits, was originally part of one of my drafts, but I decided to leave them out, simply because they would have taken up space that could be used for more interesting stuff. (Of course, my drafts also included the b-sides tagged onto the original album, which would have allowed for roughly 30 minutes of additional space on disc 2.) And they are all on the 1997 "Whatever You Want - The Very Best of Status Quo" compilation too. I've never really listened to those rehearsal tracks. I doubt I will do now either. They have a novelty value but as a "listening to music" experience I doubt I'd take much from it. Well, the curious thing about them is that they include lots of unusual or never played songs, so it was figured they might make more enticing bonus material than another live gig with the same setlist as NEC. But of course, everyone will have their own opinion and all.
|
|
frozenhero
Administrator
Drop-D beautiful
Posts: 1,420
|
Post by frozenhero on Sept 5, 2018 9:48:29 GMT
Sounds like a start. Why he didn't keep the RTYD sound, which is brilliant IMO, will always remain a mystery to me. The number of songs doesn't much bother me though. I merely transfer those I like to the hard drive - so not many so far .. RTYD is possibly the best sounding album the current lineup have had, still to this day... I think the Party Album comes close cause that was one of Paxman's better albums but still nothing comes close. ISOTFC, no? Even with the heaps of compression I think it sounds quite good, but I wish it were remastered with more dynamics.
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Sept 18, 2018 19:30:19 GMT
RTYD is possibly the best sounding album the current lineup have had, still to this day... I think the Party Album comes close cause that was one of Paxman's better albums but still nothing comes close. ISOTFC, no? Even with the heaps of compression I think it sounds quite good, but I wish it were remastered with more dynamics. TBH, I've never really listened to the 4th Chord album... I'll have to give it a listen when I grab the Edsel releases of that and Quid Pro Quo.
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Sept 18, 2018 19:32:28 GMT
The Live! content from these Deluxe releases is heavily copywritten... strangely
Was going to upload Overdose from Stockholm '86 to advertise the upcoming releases as I've done with the past deluxe editions and it was blocked worldwide instantly. :O
|
|
mortified
Administrator
This is no' gettin' the bairn a shirt
Posts: 5,563
|
Post by mortified on Sept 19, 2018 5:28:15 GMT
The Live! content from these Deluxe releases is heavily copywritten... strangely Was going to upload Overdose from Stockholm '86 to advertise the upcoming releases as I've done with the past deluxe editions and it was blocked worldwide instantly. :O Learning their lesson after goodness knows how many years? John Eden touched on that in another thread when he mentioned the remixed Rockin'.... album. I think it was that anyway. Saying that unfinalised versions turned up online. Or something. It's a double edged sword though I always think. OK, you may lose a couple of sales but it's basically free advertising. Someone else is doing it for you.
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Sept 19, 2018 7:32:32 GMT
The Live! content from these Deluxe releases is heavily copywritten... strangely Was going to upload Overdose from Stockholm '86 to advertise the upcoming releases as I've done with the past deluxe editions and it was blocked worldwide instantly. :O Learning their lesson after goodness knows how many years? John Eden touched on that in another thread when he mentioned the remixed Rockin'.... album. I think it was that anyway. Saying that unfinalised versions turned up online. Or something. It's a double edged sword though I always think. OK, you may lose a couple of sales but it's basically free advertising. Someone else is doing it for you. Yes, I remember having a copy of the RAOTW Remix prior to its release through someone on the message board. Still bought the CD and Vinyl anyway. The album tracks, B-Sides and Outtakes are all fine to use on YouTube as UMC just claim copyright on it but allow the video to stay up. It's just the live audio. Some of the Promos are heavily copywritten also whereas a few can be uploaded to YouTube perfectly fine.
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Sept 22, 2018 22:52:29 GMT
Here's a preview of the Ain't Complaining Deluxe, Disc Three content There's also Little Lady & Cream Of The Crop
|
|
gav
Wild Horse
Posts: 98
|
Post by gav on Sept 23, 2018 15:51:19 GMT
Always wondered why they brought out Pip Williams for the encore of BBJ at this gig. Was it a nod to the fact he played a lot of guitar on the ITAN and AC albums? Or to take it into conspiracy theory territory, was he sitting plugged in behind the amps playing some of the bits Francis couldn't do live?
|
|
mortified
Administrator
This is no' gettin' the bairn a shirt
Posts: 5,563
|
Post by mortified on Sept 24, 2018 5:55:53 GMT
Always wondered why they brought out Pip Williams for the encore of BBJ at this gig. Was it a nod to the fact he played a lot of guitar on the ITAN and AC albums? Or to take it into conspiracy theory territory, was he sitting plugged in behind the amps playing some of the bits Francis couldn't do live? Probably because he simply produced the album being promoted by the tour. But it was an odd one. No one would have had a clue who he was. I mean it wasn't like bringing on Ronnie Wood In 1988 I suspect recreational substances played their part
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Sept 24, 2018 18:55:34 GMT
If anyone actually thought that Pip was off stage playing the solos that Rossi couldn't play, it's time they took off the tin-foil hat Quo used properly mixed stage tapes for tracks from the Army, Ain't Complaining and Perfect Remedy albums
|
|
frozenhero
Administrator
Drop-D beautiful
Posts: 1,420
|
Post by frozenhero on Oct 22, 2018 15:49:03 GMT
They still dial up some of the ITAN parts, actually! (The guitar note that ends the solo, for instance.)
|
|
|
Post by Quoincidence on Oct 22, 2018 15:59:02 GMT
They still dial up some of the ITAN parts, actually! (The guitar note that ends the solo, for instance.) yeah that's pretty much it for Guitar parts on the backing mixes. Other than that its additional synths, BV's and sound effects etc.
|
|