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Post by snakelady on Apr 4, 2018 6:43:08 GMT
Going by insider's comments, the band is already working on it - and he likes what he has heard so far. So what is it you're hoping for, what would make you happy ? I do hope for diversity - light and heavy - including a ballad or two. I hope there'll be songs with changes of tempo, that there'll be longer songs that don't just follow the standard pattern of 2 verses, short solo, 1 verse, end. I hope that Ritchie will be allowed to sing, maybe Andy and Leon too, but not Rhino (sorry, Rhino). I hope for beautiful long solos from Francis and for intros and outros. Maybe even one long final song closing the record. 12 tunes would be enough, if the quality is right - if they're a band effort - if a band has been working on them. You see, I'm easy to please
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Post by cayan on Apr 4, 2018 7:32:43 GMT
What if the album sounds like Quo and the sound of Rick's guitar is not missing? That would be a huge disappointment. There should be any difference in the way the current band sounds
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Post by smokie on Apr 4, 2018 8:16:33 GMT
I only recently read that a new studio album is planned and therefore, I was surprised that there's already new songs to listen to. Demos I'd imagine?
I used to want 14 or 15 songs, perhaps even more but not now. I'd be happy with 9 or 10. Ricks album is a good example of this I think. Some of Quo's latter output has dragged on a bit for my liking and I kind of lose interest after about 12 songs or so. Rick's album is the perfect length for me and I'd hope a new Quo album would be similar.
I'd like the majority of the album to be what we'd expect from Quo but I'd also appreciate a ballad or two too.
Generally, I like Rossi/Young songs, Rossi/Young/Edwards but I'd be interested to hear other writing combinations too but I think the main thing and the most important thing is that the quality has to be there.
I might be shouted down for suggesting this but do you think there's any possibility of the band looking to use any of the tracks from Rick's album and recording one or two of those? Keep Rick's contributions but add their own parts to it?
If nothing else, it might be beneficial to The Twins etc
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Post by coldwarkid on Apr 4, 2018 17:42:13 GMT
I think Rick's songs should be left as his, so just on his solo album and not messed with by Francis. There is enough writing ability in the band with Francis and Bob (who should have a major role in recording to get more of the classic sound back) and Andy Bown with potentially Richie, or by themselves. No writing or "vocal" input from Rhino. There are the makings of a great album as long as Francis can let the reins go a bit and let Richie bring back a harder driving edge and sound as he displayed on the recent live footage of him playing in Ireland.
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Post by LOZ on Apr 4, 2018 17:55:27 GMT
I wont be buying any more quo. not even listened to any of ricks stuff.
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Post by dai on Apr 4, 2018 19:02:28 GMT
They should leave Rick's songs alone imho. If they were to record anything from outside the current band I'd love to hear them cover "How many times" by Ian Hill which is an awesome tune that harks back to classic Quo. Richie's input could be interesting if he's allowed to contribute. He has a strong voice but no idea what his songwriting is like? Anything new will be a bonus to be honest, I wasn't expecting any further output from Quo.
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Post by smokie on Apr 4, 2018 19:03:22 GMT
I wont be buying any more quo. not even listened to any of ricks stuff. Is that to protect your neck?
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Post by LOZ on Apr 4, 2018 20:00:37 GMT
I wont be buying any more quo. not even listened to any of ricks stuff. Is that to protect your neck? not going to any more quo gigs is to protect my neck but I'm at the point now that now rick has gone I'm not that into the band anymore.
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Post by Rockinon on Apr 4, 2018 21:23:38 GMT
As previously stated, everyone has a choice, you go with it or you don't As for some of the above expectancies of a new album.... Dreamin comes to mind
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Post by snakelady on Apr 5, 2018 7:17:37 GMT
As previously stated, everyone has a choice, you go with it or you don't As for some of the above expectancies of a new album.... Dreamin comes to mind That's one of the things mbs are for - dreaming, hoping, speculating, expecting .. or you could simply talk them down, slag them off .. all depending on your attitude towards the band or certain members. You might get disappointed, but that's life. As long as I'm a fan of this band, I'll hope for something good. And I too think that solo songs from Rick should remain just that and not be rerecorded by Quo.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2018 10:13:56 GMT
I might be shouted down for suggesting this but do you think there's any possibility of the band looking to use any of the tracks from Rick's album and recording one or two of those? Keep Rick's contributions but add their own parts to it? I wanted to suggest that too (before I read your post). Maybe include it as a bonus track on a deluxe edition - "Lonesome Road" would be the obvious choice IMO. Keep Rick's parts, overdub new parts by the band. Just one song as a tribute, and maybe something written for him too - maybe by Rhino and Bob. Anyway not sure what the problem is with Rhino's contributions? Gravy Train, Bad News, Run and Hide - all songs I liked, and let's not forget the songs he's co-written with Rick and Francis... considering that his role in the band is now more important than before, I think a new album would reflect that. dai Francis said he doesn't want to do any more covers.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2018 12:43:24 GMT
I don't really need Rossi ballads either. But if he can pull something like "Electric Arena" out of his hat again... well, ok, we already have Electric Arena, but you know, something slow and bluesy would be nice.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Apr 5, 2018 16:42:54 GMT
Bring it on, I say. Other than Ricks I ain't purchased a new self penned album for donkeys.
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Post by col on Apr 5, 2018 16:52:37 GMT
I don't want ballads, I want some heavy blues.
I know I won't get it!!
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Post by Rockinon on Apr 5, 2018 19:33:47 GMT
As previously stated, everyone has a choice, you go with it or you don't As for some of the above expectancies of a new album.... Dreamin comes to mind That's one of the things mbs are for - dreaming, hoping, speculating, expecting .. or you could simply talk them down, slag them off .. all depending on your attitude towards the band or certain members. You might get disappointed, but that's life. As long as I'm a fan of this band, I'll hope for something good. And I too think that solo songs from Rick should remain just that and not be rerecorded by Quo. Fair point I suppose. I'm not for all the slagging off but do have difficulty finding any great enthusiasm. I do wonder though of the possibility of new recorded material having a fresh new sound with younger blood, but to most it would not be Quo and that begs the counter question to an earlier post of mine. Would it be better received if they rebranded?
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Post by mortified on Apr 6, 2018 5:49:20 GMT
That's one of the things mbs are for - dreaming, hoping, speculating, expecting .. or you could simply talk them down, slag them off .. all depending on your attitude towards the band or certain members. You might get disappointed, but that's life. As long as I'm a fan of this band, I'll hope for something good. And I too think that solo songs from Rick should remain just that and not be rerecorded by Quo. Fair point I suppose. I'm not for all the slagging off but do have difficulty finding any great enthusiasm. I do wonder though of the possibility of new recorded material having a fresh new sound with younger blood, but to most it would not be Quo and that begs the counter question to an earlier post of mine. Would it be better received if they rebranded?Personally I don't think so but I suppose it's possible. The 'brand' is well established and starting again will be the last thing on anybody's mind. This gap in recordings of about 3 years won't do any harm I don't think. Depends how any new album is marketed I guess but I have no doubt that work is already going on behind the scenes to tie up any new album with a 2019 tour. I'm with those who want Rick's album to stay Rick's album. It's performed perfectly well on its own. And I don't want the same songs twice. Don't really see the point. Rhino's contribution to the songwriting has always been first class so I hope he's been putting pen to paper. And now that Rick has passed they need a new voice to counteract Francis's vocals. That may well be Richie but we don't know. If he writes songs that are accepted for the album he should sing them. We know he can. I'm also always content to hear Rhino sing. He gets an unnecessarily bad press. As for my own personal hopes, anything to match any album of self-penned material since 1999 would do me. I've pretty much liked them all. 10 or 11 tracks would do but I think we'll probably get more. Just the way things are.
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Post by mortified on Apr 6, 2018 13:08:42 GMT
.... And NO ballads! If I want words of any interest, I'll read a book
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 6, 2018 13:44:33 GMT
I don't think Quo should touch Ricks solo material, and I don't think RPJ would be too happy about it.
If they're going to do a new album then it should be new material but these days I think they need to just focus on being a live act as I don't think they could exactly write any more decent tracks.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Apr 6, 2018 13:54:50 GMT
I don't think Quo should touch Ricks solo material, and I don't think RPJ would be too happy about it. If they're going to do a new album then it should be new material but these days I think they need to just focus on being a live act as I don't think they could exactly write any more decent tracks. I agree with you about Rick's solo material.....it's an interesting idea, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even think about it.
When you say you don't think they could write decent tracks any more, are you thinking back to the classic era; or don't you class anything they've done in the last 20 years as decent?
Personally I enjoy most of the original studio albums they've done since UTI, and I believe Francis and Rhino could still write stuff in a similar vein. Andy chips in with the odd track I like, and Ritchie and Leon are unknown quantities in terms of writing Quo style material.
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 6, 2018 14:07:43 GMT
I don't think Quo should touch Ricks solo material, and I don't think RPJ would be too happy about it. If they're going to do a new album then it should be new material but these days I think they need to just focus on being a live act as I don't think they could exactly write any more decent tracks. I agree with you about Rick's solo material.....it's an interesting idea, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even think about it.
When you say you don't think they could write decent tracks any more, are you thinking back to the classic era; or don't you class anything they've done in the last 20 years as decent?
Personally I enjoy most of the original studio albums they've done since UTI, and I believe Francis and Rhino could still write stuff in a similar vein. Andy chips in with the odd track I like, and Ritchie and Leon are unknown quantities in terms of writing Quo style material.
I do think a lot of their recent material is decent but when you've been writing for 50 years you eventually run out of ideas. Rossi himself has said "I have been asked to make a new Quo album but have yet to decide how I want it to sound. I’m not sure it should sound like old Quo." The last time they released new material is coming up to 10 years ago, discluding the Bula Quo album cause that was a soundtrack. However, Alan and John are trying to get Rossi involved with the PLC recordings so it can be the final piece of Frantic Four material
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Apr 6, 2018 14:38:53 GMT
I agree with you about Rick's solo material.....it's an interesting idea, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even think about it.
When you say you don't think they could write decent tracks any more, are you thinking back to the classic era; or don't you class anything they've done in the last 20 years as decent?
Personally I enjoy most of the original studio albums they've done since UTI, and I believe Francis and Rhino could still write stuff in a similar vein. Andy chips in with the odd track I like, and Ritchie and Leon are unknown quantities in terms of writing Quo style material.
I do think a lot of their recent material is decent but when you've been writing for 50 years you eventually run out of ideas. Rossi himself has said "I have been asked to make a new Quo album but have yet to decide how I want it to sound. I’m not sure it should sound like old Quo." The last time they released new material is coming up to 10 years ago, discluding the Bula Quo album cause that was a soundtrack. However, Alan and John are trying to get Rossi involved with the PLC recordings so it can be the final piece of Frantic Four material The 'I'm not sure it should sound like old Quo' quote is a bit worrying. If it sounded similar to most of the UTI to QPQ period, I think most current Quo fans would be happy enough. I suppose it's a case of see what Francis does now he has free rein / total control!
It would be great if they can get the PLC / FF tracks finished and released. One final tribute to Rick/ The FF. I would like FR to be involved, although I'm sure there are a lot of FF fans who wouldn't these days!
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Post by Rockinon on Apr 6, 2018 16:53:05 GMT
Fair point I suppose. I'm not for all the slagging off but do have difficulty finding any great enthusiasm. I do wonder though of the possibility of new recorded material having a fresh new sound with younger blood, but to most it would not be Quo and that begs the counter question to an earlier post of mine. Would it be better received if they rebranded? Personally I don't think so but I suppose it's possible. The 'brand' is well established and starting again will be the last thing on anybody's mind. This gap in recordings of about 3 years won't do any harm I don't think. Depends how any new album is marketed I guess but I have no doubt that work is already going on behind the scenes to tie up any new album with a 2019 tour. I'm with those who want Rick's album to stay Rick's album. It's performed perfectly well on its own. And I don't want the same songs twice. Don't really see the point. Rhino's contribution to the songwriting has always been first class so I hope he's been putting pen to paper. And now that Rick has passed they need a new voice to counteract Francis's vocals. That may well be Richie but we don't know. If he writes songs that are accepted for the album he should sing them. We know he can. I'm also always content to hear Rhino sing. He gets an unnecessarily bad press. As for my own personal hopes, anything to match any album of self-penned material since 1999 would do me. I've pretty much liked them all. 10 or 11 tracks would do but I think we'll probably get more. Just the way things are. I think it is evident that what became known as CQ has lost a big slice of its fan base with many believing that the passing of Rick brought about a loss of identity that could not be patched up like its has been for 3 decades. However I suspect they still have some thirst for Quo related material, therefore, theoretically (if they rebranded) the album would be purchased by fans who have decided to stay through thick and thin and the deserters (satisfied that it is not been marketed as the Quo they loved) as related material, and may even find themselves admitting that they enjoy it for what it is. A little bit of a mental problem possible solved
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 6, 2018 17:01:16 GMT
I do think a lot of their recent material is decent but when you've been writing for 50 years you eventually run out of ideas. Rossi himself has said "I have been asked to make a new Quo album but have yet to decide how I want it to sound. I’m not sure it should sound like old Quo." The last time they released new material is coming up to 10 years ago, discluding the Bula Quo album cause that was a soundtrack. However, Alan and John are trying to get Rossi involved with the PLC recordings so it can be the final piece of Frantic Four material The 'I'm not sure it should sound like old Quo' quote is a bit worrying. If it sounded similar to most of the UTI to QPQ period, I think most current Quo fans would be happy enough. I suppose it's a case of see what Francis does now he has free rein / total control!
It would be great if they can get the PLC / FF tracks finished and released. One final tribute to Rick/ The FF. I would like FR to be involved, although I'm sure there are a lot of FF fans who wouldn't these days!
Quite the opposite of what I've seen so far... some want him involved so it truly is the ending piece for the Frantic Four era! I certainly wouldn't mind him being involved, I mean he'd only be doing guitar work as Alan sings all the tracks. With Francis being involved it would also get Quo's marketing team involved then as well, or for that matter Simon Porter which would be great for the EP. I say Francis can do as he likes, I could say I wouldn't listen to it but curiosity would take over, but I wouldn't buy it as it's just not for me nowadays... I more interested in what the archives have to offer
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Post by Rockinon on Apr 6, 2018 17:18:16 GMT
The 'I'm not sure it should sound like old Quo' quote is a bit worrying. If it sounded similar to most of the UTI to QPQ period, I think most current Quo fans would be happy enough. I suppose it's a case of see what Francis does now he has free rein / total control!
It would be great if they can get the PLC / FF tracks finished and released. One final tribute to Rick/ The FF. I would like FR to be involved, although I'm sure there are a lot of FF fans who wouldn't these days!
Quite the opposite of what I've seen so far... some want him involved so it truly is the ending piece for the Frantic Four era! I certainly wouldn't mind him being involved, I mean he'd only be doing guitar work as Alan sings all the tracks. With Francis being involved it would also get Quo's marketing team involved then as well, or for that matter Simon Porter which would be great for the EP. I say Francis can do as he likes, I could say I wouldn't listen to it but curiosity would take over, but I wouldn't buy it as it's just not for me nowadays... I more interested in what the archives have to offer Regardless of any of this, apart from the occasional lazy vocals FR put in awesome performances on both FF reunion tours and nobody will convince me he wasn't lapping it up. It was a bitter disappointment to so many that he opposed any more FF but he did state his reasons and it surely must now be recognised by all that he was right. Many are dissatisfied with him for a range of reasons but he must be given credit for the above.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 20:58:14 GMT
I will buy a new album and I think they will actually bring out something decent.
They know they have to.....
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