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Post by frozenhero on Jul 25, 2018 9:41:40 GMT
Good morning chaps and chapettes! You have all posted some interesting points, and just to lower the tone of the debate, I'll add mine! Rhino: What's wrong with Bad News? It's not that Rhino is a bad singer, but when I last saw Quo he was singing Rick's parts. Now, that's not "hands off Rick's songs!", but Rick's songs are best suited to Rick, and Rhino's songs are best suited to Rhino. Rhino can't match the higher notes that Rick could, and severely struggled. Rhino has contributed a fair number of good songs to the Quo party: Belavista Man, Bad News (OK, that was Freddie's song), Two Way Traffic, Gravy Train, Reality Cheque, Run and Hide, The Oriental, Obstruction Day and a fair few more. Rick's material: I don't have a view on whether any of Rick's unreleased material should be used for a new Quo album. The romantic in me says "yeah, go for it", but the band may cite various reasons as to why not, such as there was nothing we could use, start afresh, etc... Producer: NOT Mutt Lange, Jeff Lynne. I'm going to go completely "out of the box" - how about Ted Templeman (Doobies, Van Halen), Glyn Johns (Stones, Faces, Clapton), even Tony Visconti (Lizzy, Bowie, T-Rex)? Never going to happen, of course, and Mike Paxman and Francis Rossi divvied up Quid Pro Quo quite well, but I think Quo needs a shake up and some fresh ideas, but with Francis on hand to keep them true to the Quo sound. Glyn Johns would be great! And get John Eden to mix it & Andy Pearce to master it. Ohhhh... Good morning chaps and chapettes! You have all posted some interesting points, and just to lower the tone of the debate, I'll add mine! Rhino: What's wrong with Bad News? It's not that Rhino is a bad singer, but when I last saw Quo he was singing Rick's parts. Now, that's not "hands off Rick's songs!", but Rick's songs are best suited to Rick, and Rhino's songs are best suited to Rhino. Rhino can't match the higher notes that Rick could, and severely struggled. Rhino has contributed a fair number of good songs to the Quo party: Belavista Man, Bad News (OK, that was Freddie's song), Two Way Traffic, Gravy Train, Reality Cheque, Run and Hide, The Oriental, Obstruction Day and a fair few more. Rick's material: I don't have a view on whether any of Rick's unreleased material should be used for a new Quo album. The romantic in me says "yeah, go for it", but the band may cite various reasons as to why not, such as there was nothing we could use, start afresh, etc... Producer: NOT Mutt Lange, Jeff Lynne. I'm going to go completely "out of the box" - how about Ted Templeman (Doobies, Van Halen), Glyn Johns (Stones, Faces, Clapton), even Tony Visconti (Lizzy, Bowie, T-Rex)? Never going to happen, of course, and Mike Paxman and Francis Rossi divvied up Quid Pro Quo quite well, but I think Quo needs a shake up and some fresh ideas, but with Francis on hand to keep them true to the Quo sound. From a personal point of view, much as some if it is very suited to Quo, I'd rather they left Rick's solo tracks alone. I just think its a fine legacy and should remain so. But Rhino did Lonesome Road with Richie a couple of months ago and I have to say hearing it live sent shivers down my back. So I am prepared to contradict myself purely for my own selfish personal pleasure Producer? I'm one of the few fans of Mike Paxman it would appear. The reason I like pretty much all of Quo's self-penned albums since 1999 is because he's been at the helm for the vast majority. Apart from the 'flat/dull' sound of Heavy Traffic which, for me, is now in retrospect and I don't think is down to the producer, they've all sounded top notch to cloth ears here. I'll never forgive Mike for what he did to the live tracks from Montreux on Bula Quo, the FF reunion CDs and the LNOTE CD. I think those mixes speak for themself. I don't really mind him producing, but he should not be allowed to do the mixing and/or mastering.
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Post by pupcious on Sept 3, 2018 4:45:55 GMT
I hope they go back to John Eden who did a great job back in the day and whose remixes really captured the essence of the Quo sound far better than originally. He could produce a really guitar driven rocking album with the right material of course. Plenty of Rossi/Young compositions and hopefully some input from Andy possibly writing with Richie. Mike Paxman is too basic in style and workaday, certainly with some of Francis's poorer writing the overall effect is very flat an uninteresting. Pip Williams is a top class producer, just the wrong style for Quo, far too clean and "popy". To establish any kind of musical credibility going forward the band have to look backwards to "Heavy Traffic" and the pre '81 albums and go for a sound and song style that harks back to the glory days, far more rocking, give Richie chance to show what he can do on rhythm guitar and lead vocals and let Andy rip on Hammond, there are few players as good as him left out there. As long as I had total control ! Waiting on a beach in Thailand for the call... ah well it must be finished now... back to the Chang. Actually Glyn Johns would be interesting. Nice to read all the varying opinions and thank you for the support in several posts.
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Post by mortified on Sept 3, 2018 5:03:19 GMT
I hope they go back to John Eden who did a great job back in the day and whose remixes really captured the essence of the Quo sound far better than originally. He could produce a really guitar driven rocking album with the right material of course. Plenty of Rossi/Young compositions and hopefully some input from Andy possibly writing with Richie. Mike Paxman is too basic in style and workaday, certainly with some of Francis's poorer writing the overall effect is very flat an uninteresting. Pip Williams is a top class producer, just the wrong style for Quo, far too clean and "popy". To establish any kind of musical credibility going forward the band have to look backwards to "Heavy Traffic" and the pre '81 albums and go for a sound and song style that harks back to the glory days, far more rocking, give Richie chance to show what he can do on rhythm guitar and lead vocals and let Andy rip on Hammond, there are few players as good as him left out there. As long as I had total control ! Waiting on a beach in Thailand for the call... ah well it must be finished now... back to the Chang. Actually Glyn Johns would be interesting. Nice to read all the varying opinions and thank you for the support in several posts. I suspect that ship has long since sailed
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Post by snakelady on Sept 3, 2018 9:12:31 GMT
As long as I had total control ! Waiting on a beach in Thailand for the call... ah well it must be finished now... back to the Chang. Actually Glyn Johns would be interesting. Nice to read all the varying opinions and thank you for the support in several posts. I suspect that ship has long since sailed It did work well with the RAOTW remix. Still listen to that album, so well done pupcious. Maybe they thought you were retired now, considering that beach in Thailand . Shame you didn't get a chance to get involved ..
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Post by mortified on Sept 3, 2018 11:09:16 GMT
The Rockin' remixes are outstanding and have made, what I have always thought was a good album anyway, a VERY good album. It'll be interesting to see what Francis does with the new one. His solo production efforts have been sort of hit an miss. Great on one album then too polished with dodgy arrangements on the next.
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Post by pupcious on Sept 4, 2018 0:56:30 GMT
I suspect that ship has long since sailed It did work well with the RAOTW remix. Still listen to that album, so well done pupcious. Maybe they thought you were retired now, considering that beach in Thailand . Shame you didn't get a chance to get involved .. Good to know RAOTW is holding up ..., no I’m not old enough for the bus pass just yet. I’m working on my website of Artists I have produced and recorded over the years. Once I’ve edited the videos of the remix process of RAOTW I’ll create a page there for those that are interested. www.johneden.us
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Post by pupcious on Sept 4, 2018 3:52:56 GMT
The Rockin' remixes are outstanding and have made, what I have always thought was a good album anyway, a VERY good album. It'll be interesting to see what Francis does with the new one. His solo production efforts have been sort of hit an miss. Great on one album then too polished with dodgy arrangements on the next. Mortified, after all the hours that went into this it’s always great to receive positive feedback, so thank you. It was a nostalgic journey I enjoyed doing for the fans of a band I loved very much. Looking forward to hearing the new material, hopefully Francis will pull his socks up in the production chair for you and produce a stunning album. He’s perfectly capable and certainly doesn’t need anyone telling him what to do at this time in life especially a non opera lover like me! Alan has a couple of songs one I especially like called Satellite Navigator with Rick and I understand now John on. Whilst intended for PLC if only Francis would add guitars it would be a great bonus, a tribute in a way to Rick and the FF to have these on a a new electric album. Just my opinion.
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Post by mortified on Sept 4, 2018 5:28:11 GMT
The Rockin' remixes are outstanding and have made, what I have always thought was a good album anyway, a VERY good album. It'll be interesting to see what Francis does with the new one. His solo production efforts have been sort of hit an miss. Great on one album then too polished with dodgy arrangements on the next. Mortified, after all the hours that went into this it’s always great to receive positive feedback, so thank you. It was a nostalgic journey I enjoyed doing for the fans of a band I loved very much. Looking forward to hearing the new material, hopefully Francis will pull his socks up in the production chair for you and produce a stunning album. He’s perfectly capable and certainly doesn’t need anyone telling him what to do at this time in life especially a non opera lover like me! Alan has a couple of songs one I especially like called Satellite Navigator with Rick and I understand now John on. Whilst intended for PLC if only Francis would add guitars it would be a great bonus, a tribute in a way to Rick and the FF to have these on a a new electric album. Just my opinion. I agree that Francis doesn't need some needy amateur like any one of us on here telling him what to do at this point in his career/life . But the suggestion that he could add guitars to an existing collaboration by 3 of the others is a great one.
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Post by quolion on Sept 4, 2018 6:14:46 GMT
[/quote ] Alan has a couple of songs one I especially like called Satellite Navigator with Rick and I understand now John on. Whilst intended for PLC if only Francis would add guitars it would be a great bonus, a tribute in a way to Rick and the FF to have these on a a new electric album. Just my opinion. [/quote]
Thanks John for your great comments and Infos. I love your Remix of Rockin’all over the World too and I think remixes of Just Supposing and Never Too Late would be a dream come true, because they are very special albums for me. About the PLC recordings; I can only see a EP as Original Status Quo Frantic Four when Francis add some vocals and guitars or on a new Quo Compilation with the new tracks on...
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Post by viking55 on Sept 4, 2018 8:03:18 GMT
Adding the PLC track on the new album is a fantastic idea in principle. Would be great for Rick to still be featured on any Quo release. He lives on ! I think it would be good for both Quo for sales and Alan with his Songwriting credit. But it would take a hell of a lot of trashing out depending on how Status Quo PLC is organised. I’m not so sure Francis would be willing unfortunately but where there is hope there is a way.
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Post by mortified on Sept 4, 2018 8:10:57 GMT
The thing about adding guitars (and maybe vocals) is that it can now be done remotely. Similar to the recording of Quid Pro Quo and probably every album they've done since.
Status Quo will obviously take priority but Francis very often adds his 'bit' to a number of projects (Frankie Miller and Groove Armada just to quote two quick examples) so it is just a question of willingness. Or perhaps just being asked!
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Post by snakelady on Sept 5, 2018 6:31:32 GMT
Guess it'll too depend on the number of songs they already have for the new albums and how many songs by whom. I assume to distribute writing credits, hence royalties, according to standing in the band, the young guys will each get two songs in and the three old ones at least 3-4. Many will be co-written though as usual. That's probably at the core of a possible PLC(R) inclusion or not, mortified: whether Alan has simply asked Francis to contribute or not ..
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 5, 2018 9:37:22 GMT
The Rockin' remixes are outstanding and have made, what I have always thought was a good album anyway, a VERY good album. It'll be interesting to see what Francis does with the new one. His solo production efforts have been sort of hit an miss. Great on one album then too polished with dodgy arrangements on the next. Mortified, after all the hours that went into this it’s always great to receive positive feedback, so thank you. It was a nostalgic journey I enjoyed doing for the fans of a band I loved very much. Looking forward to hearing the new material, hopefully Francis will pull his socks up in the production chair for you and produce a stunning album. He’s perfectly capable and certainly doesn’t need anyone telling him what to do at this time in life especially a non opera lover like me! Alan has a couple of songs one I especially like called Satellite Navigator with Rick and I understand now John on. Whilst intended for PLC if only Francis would add guitars it would be a great bonus, a tribute in a way to Rick and the FF to have these on a a new electric album. Just my opinion. Great to see you around here again, John. I have some minor quibbles with the RAOTW remix but overall I would class it as very successful. The point about Quo now (as I see it) is that Francis is a capable producer, but almost all of Quo's new releases in the last 2 decades have suffered from either muddy mixing or bad, compressed mastering (especially Pip's mixes on In Search of the Fourth Chord, which would have been stellar if it hadn't been for the heavy-handed mastering). This is the reason why I'd like to see somebody with a taste for good sound, and from outside the closely knit "circle", like you, to get involved, be it only as somebody who offers some suggestions for improvement. Pink Floyd did this already in 1973 with Chris Thomas, who was called for as a "mixing supervisor".
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Post by pupcious on Sept 6, 2018 7:51:47 GMT
Great to see you around here again, John. I have some minor quibbles with the RAOTW remix but overall I would class it as very successful. The point about Quo now (as I see it) is that Francis is a capable producer, but almost all of Quo's new releases in the last 2 decades have suffered from either muddy mixing or bad, compressed mastering (especially Pip's mixes on In Search of the Fourth Chord, which would have been stellar if it hadn't been for the heavy-handed mastering). This is the reason why I'd like to see somebody with a taste for good sound, and from outside the closely knit "circle", like you, to get involved, be it only as somebody who offers some suggestions for improvement. Pink Floyd did this already in 1973 with Chris Thomas, who was called for as a "mixing supervisor". I agree with what you say. The album you mention was probably a victim in the height of the loudness wars. In fact I brought it to Francis attention and he was unaware until he played a commercially released CD and was shocked at the compression used. But you know from a producer/engineer standpoint labels and or managers quite often never reach out to us after initial product is released. For RAOTW I supplied a CD master only. No discussion ever took place about a vinyl release. If it had I would have insisted on supervising the cutting of the lacquers AND used 96k/24 bit mix sources instead of the Cd 44.1k/16 bit red book that got used. What a shame you guys never got to hear the sonics of the higher quality original mixes. This is one example that was totally out of my control. Just like I protected all of the mixes for years before release and insisted on delivering a physical master and not uploading digitally. Because I knew if I did that someone somewhere would rip it and put it up on the Internet. Well guess what within weeks of delivery and it being decoded in a mastering facility mp3’s where up on the internet. Anyway back to the topic of this thread and your suggestion of my involvement in a supervisory role the answer is Yes I’m available to always review and even mix.. So let’s start with what on earth has happened to Francis’s guitar sounds? The old green télé needs her original pickups on ( ok so single coil they hum so what) Forget the amp simulator plugins and go back to the bottom brilliant input of a classic AC30. So that comment alone will guarantee I will never get a call ! Sometimes things are best just left alone and not ‘improved’. Cheers from Nostalgic Pupcious.
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Post by mortified on Sept 6, 2018 8:13:49 GMT
Great to see you around here again, John. I have some minor quibbles with the RAOTW remix but overall I would class it as very successful. The point about Quo now (as I see it) is that Francis is a capable producer, but almost all of Quo's new releases in the last 2 decades have suffered from either muddy mixing or bad, compressed mastering (especially Pip's mixes on In Search of the Fourth Chord, which would have been stellar if it hadn't been for the heavy-handed mastering). This is the reason why I'd like to see somebody with a taste for good sound, and from outside the closely knit "circle", like you, to get involved, be it only as somebody who offers some suggestions for improvement. Pink Floyd did this already in 1973 with Chris Thomas, who was called for as a "mixing supervisor". I agree with what you say. The album you mention was probably a victim in the height of the loudness wars. In fact I brought it to Francis attention and he was unaware until he played a commercially released CD and was shocked at the compression used. But you know from a producer/engineer standpoint labels and or managers quite often never reach out to us after initial product is released. For RAOTW I supplied a CD master only. No discussion ever took place about a vinyl release. If it had I would have insisted on supervising the cutting of the lacquers AND used 96k/24 bit mix sources instead of the Cd 44.1k/16 bit red book that got used. What a shame you guys never got to hear the sonics of the higher quality original mixes. This is one example that was totally out of my control. Just like I protected all of the mixes for years before release and insisted on delivering a physical master and not uploading digitally. Because I knew if I did that someone somewhere would rip it and put it up on the Internet. Well guess what within weeks of delivery and it being decoded in a mastering facility mp3’s where up on the internet. Anyway back to the topic of this thread and your suggestion of my involvement in a supervisory role the answer is Yes I’m available to always review and even mix.. So let’s start with what on earth has happened to Francis’s guitar sounds? The old green télé needs her original pickups on ( ok so single coil they hum so what) Forget the amp simulator plugins and go back to the bottom brilliant input of a classic AC30. So that comment alone will guarantee I will never get a call ! Sometimes things are best just left alone and not ‘improved’. Cheers from Nostalgic Pupcious. I have to admit, a lot of that post is like a foreign language! I wouldn't recognise compression except in a fracture. I haven't played the remixed vinyl Rockin' album because I don't have a turntable. Not yet anyway. I guess vinyl releases are a given these days. For the moment at least. Although when Rockin' came out a couple of years back that wasn't necessarily the case. But every Quo album since (and one or two before) has pitched up on vinyl. Francis no longer has his old green Tele. I think he chucked it. Or said he did because it fell apart. Maybe he kept the pickups.
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Post by rockinoldgit on Sept 6, 2018 17:48:30 GMT
Hi John I too loved the Rockin' Remix. It's great to hear from you again. I would be very interested in seeing the videos of the remix process of Rockin'. I enjoyed the Baby Boy vid. It's always interesting hear about all the background info on what makes up an album.
I have a question, off topic, that has been around in my brain since 1980! Did Quo play on the Kevin Keegan single "England"? I believe you produced it. I bought the single purely on the rumour the boys were on it! I read it or heard it somewhere, at the time.
Back on topic, I hope the PLC tracks see the light of day in the very near future and hope that Francis can be persuaded to take part.
The new album, at the moment, I can't get excited about.
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Post by snakelady on Sept 7, 2018 8:09:20 GMT
I agree with what you say. The album you mention was probably a victim in the height of the loudness wars. In fact I brought it to Francis attention and he was unaware until he played a commercially released CD and was shocked at the compression used. But you know from a producer/engineer standpoint labels and or managers quite often never reach out to us after initial product is released. For RAOTW I supplied a CD master only. No discussion ever took place about a vinyl release. If it had I would have insisted on supervising the cutting of the lacquers AND used 96k/24 bit mix sources instead of the Cd 44.1k/16 bit red book that got used. What a shame you guys never got to hear the sonics of the higher quality original mixes. This is one example that was totally out of my control. Just like I protected all of the mixes for years before release and insisted on delivering a physical master and not uploading digitally. Because I knew if I did that someone somewhere would rip it and put it up on the Internet. Well guess what within weeks of delivery and it being decoded in a mastering facility mp3’s where up on the internet. Anyway back to the topic of this thread and your suggestion of my involvement in a supervisory role the answer is Yes I’m available to always review and even mix.. So let’s start with what on earth has happened to Francis’s guitar sounds? The old green télé needs her original pickups on ( ok so single coil they hum so what) Forget the amp simulator plugins and go back to the bottom brilliant input of a classic AC30. So that comment alone will guarantee I will never get a call ! Sometimes things are best just left alone and not ‘improved’. Cheers from Nostalgic Pupcious. I have to admit, a lot of that post is like a foreign language! I wouldn't recognise compression except in a fracture. I haven't played the remixed vinyl Rockin' album because I don't have a turntable. Not yet anyway. I guess vinyl releases are a given these days. For the moment at least. Although when Rockin' came out a couple of years back that wasn't necessarily the case. But every Quo album since (and one or two before) has pitched up on vinyl. Francis no longer has his old green Tele. I think he chucked it. Or said he did because it fell apart. Maybe he kept the pickups. I've read somewhere that one of his spares was the old green one done up differently, but I'm not too sure about it. His main spare these days is the grey one, which I actually think sounds better than the new green guitar .. If it's any consolation to you, I don't understand the technical language either, but I'd like to hear and see the other versions too.
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Post by pupcious on Sept 7, 2018 8:46:10 GMT
I have to admit, a lot of that post is like a foreign language! I wouldn't recognise compression except in a fracture. I haven't played the remixed vinyl Rockin' album because I don't have a turntable. Not yet anyway. I guess vinyl releases are a given these days. For the moment at least. Although when Rockin' came out a couple of years back that wasn't necessarily the case. But every Quo album since (and one or two before) has pitched up on vinyl. Francis no longer has his old green Tele. I think he chucked it. Or said he did because it fell apart. Maybe he kept the pickups. I've read somewhere that one of his spares was the old green one done up differently, but I'm not too sure about it. His main spare these days is the grey one, which I actually think sounds better than the new green guitar .. If it's any consolation to you, I don't understand the technical language either, but I'd like to hear and see the other versions too. Sorry guys about the tech talk...
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Post by pupcious on Sept 7, 2018 9:39:50 GMT
Hi John I too loved the Rockin' Remix. It's great to hear from you again. I would be very interested in seeing the videos of the remix process of Rockin'. I enjoyed the Baby Boy vid. It's always interesting hear about all the background info on what makes up an album. I have a question, off topic, that has been around in my brain since 1980! Did Quo play on the Kevin Keegan single "England"? I believe you produced it. I bought the single purely on the rumour the boys were on it! I read it or heard it somewhere, at the time. Back on topic, I hope the PLC tracks see the light of day in the very near future and hope that Francis can be persuaded to take part. The new album, at the moment, I can't get excited about. Yes I did produce the Kevin Keegan single « England » but no, Quo where not involved in this single. However the follow up single was to be a Francis and Bernie song called « Billy » that I’d worked on with them both. I went to Hamburg and recorded Kevin on this song. Before the mix process took place the studio where the tapes where stored had a library clear out and the tapes got sent to Arista the record label. I had no knowledge of this and when it came time to mix the single the tapes could not be found either at the label or studio. So that was the connection between Kevin and Quo that unfortunately never got completed.
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Post by rockinoldgit on Sept 7, 2018 11:23:55 GMT
Hi John, Many thanks for the reply and info. I remember playing the six minute B Side of the single over and over, trying to listen for any clues to who was playing on it! The things you do when you are a mad 23 year old Quo fan. The days of the good old B Side.
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Post by mortified on Sept 7, 2018 11:52:48 GMT
I've read somewhere that one of his spares was the old green one done up differently, but I'm not too sure about it. His main spare these days is the grey one, which I actually think sounds better than the new green guitar .. If it's any consolation to you, I don't understand the technical language either, but I'd like to hear and see the other versions too. Sorry guys about the tech talk... Don't you dare apologise. It's refreshing to have someone who knows what they're actually talking about on here
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Post by mortified on Sept 7, 2018 12:05:34 GMT
Hi John I too loved the Rockin' Remix. It's great to hear from you again. I would be very interested in seeing the videos of the remix process of Rockin'. I enjoyed the Baby Boy vid. It's always interesting hear about all the background info on what makes up an album. I have a question, off topic, that has been around in my brain since 1980! Did Quo play on the Kevin Keegan single "England"? I believe you produced it. I bought the single purely on the rumour the boys were on it! I read it or heard it somewhere, at the time. Back on topic, I hope the PLC tracks see the light of day in the very near future and hope that Francis can be persuaded to take part. The new album, at the moment, I can't get excited about. Yes I did produce the Kevin Keegan single « England » but no, Quo where not involved in this single. However the follow up single was to be a Francis and Bernie song called « Billy » that I’d worked on with them both. I went to Hamburg and recorded Kevin on this song. Before the mix process took place the studio where the tapes where stored had a library clear out and the tapes got sent to Arista the record label. I had no knowledge of this and when it came time to mix the single the tapes could not be found either at the label or studio. So that was the connection between Kevin and Quo that unfortunately never got completed. I don't remember that Kevin Keegan single. Mind you, being from arctic tundra stock and with a title like that I probably blanked it from my mind That video containing the work on Baby Boy was fascinating. I love all that stuff. It's like watching that "Classic Albums" TV series on Sky Arts. Even when it's about albums I never liked, the way they were recorded is really interesting. Dark Side Of The Moon, Rumours, The Joshua Tree, Electric Ladyland, Paranoid and Pet Sounds have all been on it. But the media would never admit there is such a thing as a Quo album that was a classic. We got used to that from an early age
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Post by snakelady on Sept 10, 2018 6:39:07 GMT
For your info: I've moved all the posts below, which deal with whether Quo has a classic album or not into a new thread. And concerning the new Quo album - so do we know for certain that Francis is producing it and no other producer will be involved ?
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Post by mortified on Sept 10, 2018 7:32:39 GMT
For your info: I've moved all the posts below, which deal with whether Quo has a classic album or not into a new thread. And concerning the new Quo album - so do we know for certain that Francis is producing it and no other producer will be involved ? I don't think we know anything for certain but indications in the FTMO were that Francis was at the desk. To quote Leon, " Francis is doing a fantastic job as producer. He has a vision and we are all there to play and write the best we can to support that." Which sounds like total control
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Post by col on Sept 10, 2018 15:58:33 GMT
For your info: I've moved all the posts below, which deal with whether Quo has a classic album or not into a new thread. And concerning the new Quo album - so do we know for certain that Francis is producing it and no other producer will be involved ? I don't think we know anything for certain but indications in the FTMO were that Francis was at the desk. To quote Leon, " Francis is doing a fantastic job as producer. He has a vision and we are all there to play and write the best we can to support that." Which sounds like total control We may be in for a pleasant surprise then. Or not.
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