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Post by craydarr on Feb 2, 2021 17:17:37 GMT
Recorded it off the Telebox and just started watching it, not really knowing anything about them.
Its actually rather good, will probably watch it over the next few days when El Fam aren't around.
Any Rush fans out there?
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Post by mortified on Feb 2, 2021 22:40:07 GMT
I started listening to Rush around the mid-70's. 2112 was a particular favourite of mine as a teenager. Bit naff now probably, being a concept album. Well, one side of it. I've seen that film. I think it was on Sky Arts. It's really good. I loved Rush and saw them a few times live, the last time in 1983, which will have been the Signals tour I think. They were superb between about '76 and '84 and after that they became a bit hit and miss for me. Or maybe my tastes just evolved. More likely I think. Favourite albums? Definitely Moving Pictures which, for me, is their best. But Hemispheres and Grace Under Pressure are also outstanding, the latter dabbling with reggae-style rhythms throughout. The best more modern album I'd say was Vapour Trails, but the remix issue rather than the original. Very good band, although sometimes maybe too clever by half.
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Post by noproblems on Feb 4, 2021 13:17:21 GMT
I started listening to Rush around the mid-70's. 2112 was a particular favourite of mine as a teenager. Bit naff now probably, being a concept album. Well, one side of it. I've seen that film. I think it was on Sky Arts. It's really good. I loved Rush and saw them a few times live, the last time in 1983, which will have been the Signals tour I think. They were superb between about '76 and '84 and after that they became a bit hit and miss for me. Or maybe my tastes just evolved. More likely I think. Favourite albums? Definitely Moving Pictures which, for me, is their best. But Hemispheres and Grace Under Pressure are also outstanding, the latter dabbling with reggae-style rhythms throughout. The best more modern album I'd say was Vapour Trails, but the remix issue rather than the original. Very good band, although sometimes maybe too clever by half. I got into Rush a little later, just after Hemispheres. I got to see them in 2011 on their Time Mahcine tour, during which they played the entire Moving Pictures album in track order - it was a great show! Before that, I think it was on both the Moving Pictures and Signals tours I last saw them live. Foe me, their best albums are 4) 2112, 3) Hemispheres, 2) Permanent Waves and 1) Moving Pictures. Signals marked a new direction for them, and we started growing apart; I didn't get on with subsequent albums, hard though I tried. Favourite Rush track: The Trees.
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Post by mortified on Feb 4, 2021 15:23:02 GMT
Permanent Waves is the album that I suppose put them up there. After the relative success of the single, Spirit of Radio. But it's not a favourite album of mine. Can't put my finger on it. Yeah, Signals, was a complete change from Moving Pictures and quite quickly, as it was the studio album that followed it. But I did like it. I stopped with Power Windows and never revisited until Test For Echo years later, which I didn't like either. So that was us. A friendship ended
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 2, 2021 21:22:44 GMT
Big Rush fan here. I have all their albums and several of their live films, including this one. Like so many people, I'll rate Moving Pictures as their best album (given that it's celebrating its 40th anniversary, there will probably be a deluxe edition of sorts soon), but I think their bulk of work from 2112 to Signals is a really great run of albums. For me, they became a bit less 'special' once they parted ways with producer Terry Brown (his last album with the band was Signals) but there are still great songs on the albums that followed. I quite like Presto and Counterparts, the latter probably being their heaviest album up to that point, but unlike Test for Echo or Vapor Trails, it also has lots of good musical ideas and doesn't sound like shadow-boxing: "Between Sun and Moon" is such a powerful and positive sounding song... great, thick guitar tone, and a chorus that's soooo infectious! Try it out for yourself Edit: In fact I see we discussed the band on here after Neil's passing: quocupsncafe.proboards.com/thread/6994/rush-drummer-neil-peart
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Post by mortified on Mar 3, 2021 7:54:47 GMT
Big Rush fan here. I have all their albums and several of their live films, including this one. Like so many people, I'll rate Moving Pictures as their best album (given that it's celebrating its 40th anniversary, there will probably be a deluxe edition of sorts soon), but I think their bulk of work from 2112 to Signals is a really great run of albums. For me, they became a bit less 'special' once they parted ways with producer Terry Brown (his last album with the band was Signals) but there are still great songs on the albums that followed. I quite like Presto and Counterparts, the latter probably being their heaviest album up to that point, but unlike Test for Echo or Vapor Trails, it also has lots of good musical ideas and doesn't sound like shadow-boxing: "Between Sun and Moon" is such a powerful and positive sounding song... great, thick guitar tone, and a chorus that's soooo infectious! Try it out for yourself Edit: In fact I see we discussed the band on here after Neil's passing: quocupsncafe.proboards.com/thread/6994/rush-drummer-neil-peartI'll have to give all of Counterparts a proper listen. That second song is excellent. I only have one track from that album - and I have no idea why - and that's Cut To The Chase. I think I sort of dabbled with their more recent albums once I started to download back in the early 2000's, so I probably picked up the odd song then. I remember early reviews of Rush back in the mid 70's (yes, I am THAT old ) when the music press were calling Geddy Lee a poor man's Robert Plant. And he does seem to sing like that on the first few albums. But he developed quickly into a very good vocalist in his own right. The singers with Budgie and Kingdom Come (especially) suffered from the same comparisons.
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 3, 2021 15:52:43 GMT
The singers with Budgie and Kingdom Come (especially) suffered from the same comparisons. Yeah, Kingdome Come was lampooned by Gary Moore and Ozzy Osbourne in the (highly enjoyable) song "Led Clones"! Back to Rush, the album that pulled them back from complete synth saturation was 1989's Presto (produced by Saga/Fixx producer Rupert Hine, RIP). Though it took a few more years before they really turned up the guitars on Counterparts, I really like several songs from this album. It's a more restrained, somewhat 'wintery' sounding album, but well worth exploring.
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Post by craydarr on Mar 3, 2021 19:27:44 GMT
Have had a listen to all of the above tracks and quite like them.
I get the feeling Geddy Lees voice may grate on me after a while so I may have to limit how much I listen to. That isn’t slating him as I’m the same with Gary Moore and I love him. 😁
Thanks for the info.
Great musicianship btw
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 3, 2021 22:54:58 GMT
Have had a listen to all of the above tracks and quite like them. I get the feeling Geddy Lees voice may grate on me after a while so I may have to limit how much I listen to. That isn’t slating him as I’m the same with Gary Moore and I love him. 😁 Thanks for the info. Great musicianship btw It took me some time to adjust myself to Geddy's voice... helped that I started with the late 80s stuff where he had matured quite a bit, and worked my way backwards. The last stuff is kind of painful for me though because his voice is worn out, and he just struggles. It's interesting that you mention Gary Moore, as Gary supported Rush in 1983 I think, and Alex Lifeson was quite motivated to give his best following Gary! (Rush were big fans of his work - so much so that they stole his producer Peter Collins , but they really treated Gary & co. well on tour. From all I know Rush were pretty much the nicest band you can imagine.) Oh, for some silliness you gotta watch Alex Lifeson's "speech" when they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
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Post by johns on Mar 4, 2021 15:59:14 GMT
I remember at school really not liking Rush when I was at school even though I probably didn't give them a fair shake. I did like Spirit of Radio though but it didn't convince me to buy any more of their stuff. Years later (many years later) I saw their R30 DVD on sale for £3 and thought I'd try it out and really liked it. However still only bought Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures both of which are quality albums. Don't think I will ever be a huge fan but certainly appreciate how good a band they were.
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Post by ant on Apr 1, 2021 10:04:00 GMT
First band I ever saw - what a start!!!! Mind you, Zep were the fourth so I think I peaked early! Rush were great from 2112 to Signals, as mentioned above, but the first album (without Neil Peart also deserves a special mention, especially Working Man. Geddy's voice mellowed and he sang in a lower key later on. They changed style every 5 albums or so over their forst 15 or 20 albums and released a live album every 5 albums or so to bring each phase to an end. Great sense of humour - for one of the best starts to a gig ever, have a butchers at this.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 1, 2021 18:54:06 GMT
Oh, their skits were legendary and grew more and more elaborate by each tour.
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Post by craydarr on Apr 4, 2021 7:33:57 GMT
Oh, their skits were legendary and grew more and more elaborate by each tour. Loved those, what a great idea. Does that mean they always started with the same song then ?
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2021 19:32:33 GMT
Oh, their skits were legendary and grew more and more elaborate by each tour. Loved those, what a great idea. Does that mean they always started with the same song then ? Not always, but Tom Sawyer is one of those big statements that works well at the beginning — either that or near the end. Other openers tended to be The Big Money, Dreamline or The Spirit of Radio. Actually, Tom Sawyer wasn't even used that often as the actual opener, but several times opening the 2nd set (since the late 90s, Rush never had support acts, so they did these long, almost three-hour shows with a break, called “An Evening with Rush”), and there would be a video intro for the 1st and 2nd set, even for the encores! (Though on the last tour, it was some hip DJ introducing this young, fresh band that just opened for Kiss and has a great future ahead… if they add some horn players!) In fact, there was also an outro film on the last few tours, I think the Watchmaker clip (related to the whole steampunk concept of Clockwork Angels) might have been one, not so sure. You can get an overview over the typical structure of their concerts here: www.setlist.fm/stats/average-setlist/rush-13d6dd1d.html(Just click any year on the left to see an average setlist.)
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Post by craydarr on Apr 6, 2021 9:49:54 GMT
Loved those, what a great idea. Does that mean they always started with the same song then ? Not always, but Tom Sawyer is one of those big statements that works well at the beginning — either that or near the end. Other openers tended to be The Big Money, Dreamline or The Spirit of Radio. Actually, Tom Sawyer wasn't even used that often as the actual opener, but several times opening the 2nd set (since the late 90s, Rush never had support acts, so they did these long, almost three-hour shows with a break, called “An Evening with Rush”), and there would be a video intro for the 1st and 2nd set, even for the encores! (Though on the last tour, it was some hip DJ introducing this young, fresh band that just opened for Kiss and has a great future ahead… if they add some horn players!) In fact, there was also an outro film on the last few tours, I think the Watchmaker clip (related to the whole steampunk concept of Clockwork Angels) might have been one, not so sure. You can get an overview over the typical structure of their concerts here: www.setlist.fm/stats/average-setlist/rush-13d6dd1d.html(Just click any year on the left to see an average setlist.) Interesting thanks 👍🙂
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