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Post by frozenhero on Aug 5, 2022 7:26:52 GMT
Just popped up on Spotify with no fanfare on the official site, their Twitter or ear-music.net... Sounds pretty close to how they play it live. I wonder what prompted this recording/release? Edit: Apparently there's a new 3CD compilation coming to go along with the tour. townsendmusic.store/product/100443It's called The Best of the Noughties but there are also about ten tracks from the 90s. Obviously limited by the fact that it's (mostly) only stuff that earmusic has rights to, but that considered, it still has some appealing things, like the new 2022 recordings of Caroline, Paper Plane and RAOTW (yeah, could've been a bit more imaginative with those choices), new remixes of Backbone & Cut Me Some Slack, a Live Here Now show from 2008 (?) on disc 3. There's also Face the Music if you didn't get the Backbone deluxe. Other choices are not so inspired - I sure would've liked I Ain't Wasting My Time (which was not on the German Fourth Chord) instead of the entirety of the Don't Stop bonus tracks... (Oh, and I just noticed that Heavy Traffic and Riffs are finally getting their deluxe reissues! About time, man.) |
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Post by craydarr on Aug 6, 2022 11:31:41 GMT
To Me that’s a strange track listing and I’m wondering who they are trying to appeal to with that.
I do like a lot of the stuff in there and I’m intrigued by the remixed tracks, but I don’t know if I’ll buy it.
I may wait till the price drops, or get someone to buy it as a present for me.
I quite like the re-recording of Caroline, it’s a good representation of where the band are at these days.
Mmmmmm??
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Post by craydarr on Aug 6, 2022 16:08:49 GMT
Just popped up on Spotify with no fanfare on the official site, their Twitter or ear-music.net... Sounds pretty close to how they play it live. I wonder what prompted this recording/release? Edit: Apparently there's a new 3CD compilation coming to go along with the tour. townsendmusic.store/product/100443It's called The Best of the Noughties but there are also about ten tracks from the 90s. Obviously limited by the fact that it's (mostly) only stuff that earmusic has rights to, but that considered, it still has some appealing things, like the new 2022 recordings of Caroline, Paper Plane and RAOTW (yeah, could've been a bit more imaginative with those choices), new remixes of Backbone & Cut Me Some Slack, a Live Here Now show from 2008 (?) on disc 3. There's also Face the Music if you didn't get the Backbone deluxe. Other choices are not so inspired - I sure would've liked I Ain't Wasting My Time (which was not on the German Fourth Chord) instead of the entirety of the Don't Stop bonus tracks... (Oh, and I just noticed that Heavy Traffic and Riffs are finally getting their deluxe reissues! About time, man.) Am I the only person be thinking that the production on the 2022 version of Caroline is really good. Guitars way up front, laid back vocal and keyboards to a minimum ( no offence Andy 🙂) |
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Post by johns on Aug 7, 2022 9:25:46 GMT
I thought at first please no but then played it and thought that's pretty damn good. Firstly it's 100 times better than previous re hashes and secondly it has little differences that represent the band now without detracting from the original.
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Post by craydarr on Aug 7, 2022 10:08:08 GMT
I thought at first please no but then played it and thought that's pretty damn good. Firstly it's 100 times better than previous re hashes and secondly it has little differences that represent the band now without detracting from the original. Since my posting yesterday I have seen it has got a bit of a pasting on the other board. The thing I didn’t notice until I read on the other board, was regarding the bass being too low in the mix. I actually agree with this and considering it’s prominence on the BB album, I am surprised it is so low. I still think it’s a good representation of the band at this point, love it or loathe it. |
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Post by sqcollector on Aug 7, 2022 10:43:03 GMT
Sounds very good!
Just don't like the drums very much; the snare's a bit weak and the whole drumset needs more overheads/ambiance, IMO.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 11, 2022 17:43:15 GMT
It shows (once again) that they can still make a good sounding recording in the studio when Francis does away with his annoying live mannerisms.
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Post by mortified on Aug 12, 2022 6:27:41 GMT
A good representation of where the band are now, for me, would recording some new material. So is this an admission that where the band are now is simply covering or re-covering old material? If that's the case, then the whole re-recordings make sense. In a way. But it does render them a bit of pastiche of themselves. Or am I overthinking it?  A lot of people, including my sister, think this version of Caroline is closer to the live version but I take a different view and find the overall sound of it nearer the original. There are keyboards in there but they're fairly superfluous. Which I think is probably deliberate. But has it come down to analysing old songs re-imagined? Unimaginatively. Is this all we have left? I'm making myself depressed. I'd better go have another coffee |
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Post by craydarr on Aug 13, 2022 7:42:05 GMT
A good representation of where the band are now, for me, would recording some new material. So is this an admission that where the band are now is simply covering or re-covering old material? If that's the case, then the whole re-recordings make sense. In a way. But it does render them a bit of pastiche of themselves. Or am I overthinking it? A lot of people, including my sister, think this version of Caroline is closer to the live version but I take a different view and find the overall sound of it nearer the original. There are keyboards in there but they're fairly superfluous. Which I think is probably deliberate. But has it come down to analysing old songs re-imagined? Unimaginatively. Is this all we have left? I'm making myself depressed. I'd better go have another coffee I totally agree with you and I would much prefer new material, but when I say a good representation of the band, I mean it shows the current band performing good versions of old classics, hopefully to people who have lost touch or not heard the current band. As I have previously said I’m not sure who this compilation is aimed at really, it’s good in some ways as it’s not just relying in the obvious era of the band, but I don’t know who will buy it? I’ve seen on the other board there are accusations of the band / Francis wanting to get more royalties. I find that strange as if it was just about money then Fran could have changed the name to Francis Rossi Quo and cut other people out of the loop completely. I hope the album charts and I may buy it at some point. |
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Post by mortified on Aug 13, 2022 7:53:58 GMT
I'm pretty sure this isn't a royalty thing and probably more a performing rights thing. The re-recorded tracks will probably all be in the live set. Two of them certainly will. It is an odd compilation and so obviously inaccurately titled. I assume there will be no vinyl release, which is interesting given that this media has outsold CD's in recent years. That also applies to the new deluxe editions of course. Costs will undoubtedly play a part in that decision. It seems they're playing a part in all decisions now, including any chance of an album of new material. Remixing newer songs like Backbone is about the most interesting thing of the whole project. The reasons escape me but I will be playing them to see if there's any real difference. Remixing usually does. Personally, I can't wait for Rhino's Revenge III  |
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Post by craydarr on Aug 13, 2022 10:33:53 GMT
I'm pretty sure this isn't a royalty thing and probably more a performing rights thing. The re-recorded tracks will probably all be in the live set. Two of them certainly will. It is an odd compilation and so obviously inaccurately titled. I assume there will be no vinyl release, which is interesting given that this media has outsold CD's in recent years. That also applies to the new deluxe editions of course. Costs will undoubtedly play a part in that decision. It seems they're playing a part in all decisions now, including any chance of an album of new material. Remixing newer songs like Backbone is about the most interesting thing of the whole project. The reasons escape me but I will be playing them to see if there's any real difference. Remixing usually does. Personally, I can't wait for Rhino's Revenge III Totally agree on all counts there, particularly about the RRIII. Are you still listening to Charge ? |
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Post by mortified on Aug 13, 2022 13:56:40 GMT
I'm pretty sure this isn't a royalty thing and probably more a performing rights thing. The re-recorded tracks will probably all be in the live set. Two of them certainly will. It is an odd compilation and so obviously inaccurately titled. I assume there will be no vinyl release, which is interesting given that this media has outsold CD's in recent years. That also applies to the new deluxe editions of course. Costs will undoubtedly play a part in that decision. It seems they're playing a part in all decisions now, including any chance of an album of new material. Remixing newer songs like Backbone is about the most interesting thing of the whole project. The reasons escape me but I will be playing them to see if there's any real difference. Remixing usually does. Personally, I can't wait for Rhino's Revenge III Totally agree on all counts there, particularly about the RRIII. Are you still listening to Charge ? I am, although I'm listening to less music generally at the moment by virtue of the half decent weather we're having. Even up here It's a cracking live album. And that's coming from someone who's never been mad on live albums  |
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Post by johns on Aug 19, 2022 21:15:53 GMT
Standing at Guildford Station waiting for a train and blasting this through my headphones and f**k me really loud it is great.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 26, 2022 7:16:21 GMT
Remixing newer songs like Backbone is about the most interesting thing of the whole project. The reasons escape me but I will be playing them to see if there's any real difference. Remixing usually does. Here we go. Interesting alternative: |
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Post by mortified on Aug 26, 2022 8:09:20 GMT
Remixing newer songs like Backbone is about the most interesting thing of the whole project. The reasons escape me but I will be playing them to see if there's any real difference. Remixing usually does. Here we go. Interesting alternative: I'm not picking up much difference from the original but I'm only having a quick listen on the PC. I dare say there are technical subtleties in there. But I'm not sure if that affects the layman's view. |
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Post by sqcollector on Aug 26, 2022 10:08:16 GMT
This is what I posted on the other forum
I think it's an improvement. Interesting for sure.
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Post by mortified on Aug 26, 2022 10:16:37 GMT
This is what I posted on the other forum I think it's an improvement. Interesting for sure. I saw your post. Just a minute ago There has obviously been a fair bit of 'tinkering' with the sound here and there but, in my opinion, not enough to matter to your average listener. Remastering rarely does. Clarity of sound is usually the only difference, especially with older tracks. You nailed it with 'minor stuff'  |
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 26, 2022 11:00:40 GMT
Well, the extra guitar part is obvious even without close listening.
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Post by mortified on Aug 26, 2022 12:28:18 GMT
Well, the extra guitar part is obvious even without close listening. Agreed But was it worth it? I did think they might have been re-mixing the tracks that will be in the set. Giving the exercise some sort of logic. But that doesn't seem to be the case. |
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 27, 2022 9:35:35 GMT
I thought at first please no but then played it and thought that's pretty damn good. Firstly it's 100 times better than previous re hashes and secondly it has little differences that represent the band now without detracting from the original. Since my posting yesterday I have seen it has got a bit of a pasting on the other board.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 29, 2022 13:11:44 GMT
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Post by mortified on Aug 30, 2022 6:45:08 GMT
I saw it on the other board His take on why they re-recorded songs is interesting. It seems it was done purely for TV appearances. Or certainly for promotion. What is also interesting is that he just accepts things as they are. He wouldn't even consider taking charge of Quo's music the way that Taylor Swift did hers. Although very few artists have. And Quo would have to re-record a huge amount of music simply by virtue of their long career. Not really practical. |
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Post by johns on Sept 21, 2022 10:14:30 GMT
Giving CD1 of the new comp a listen. In the most part if this had been a new Quo album it is a pretty good mix. As a best of package I think it works too and it's great not having all the normal greatest hits for a change. One thing though, apart from us lot who knows its out? Is there TV advertising or is it just quietly shoved out and therefore hardly anyone will buy it?
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Post by mortified on Sept 21, 2022 11:51:40 GMT
Giving CD1 of the new comp a listen. In the most part if this had been a new Quo album it is a pretty good mix. As a best of package I think it works too and it's great not having all the normal greatest hits for a change. One thing though, apart from us lot who knows its out? Is there TV advertising or is it just quietly shoved out and therefore hardly anyone will buy it? There's a full page advert for it on the back page of "Classic Rock" Spotted it yesterday. But I haven't seen any TV promotion. Mind you, I tend not to watch commercial telly and, if I do, it's usually on catch-up. I guess the early release of tracks on Spotify is meant to give things a push but that's not so easy with a compilation of old material. So many different areas of media to try and cover these days. Beats me. I wouldn't know where to start or who to target  |
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