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Post by noproblems on Oct 24, 2020 11:10:46 GMT
www.cattales.co.uk/78-the-one-with-status-quos-alan-lancaster/AUGUST 2020 + Selling his guitars because he can't lift them anymore + Status Quo has cost him more than he made from it + Band broke up "immediately after Live Aid" + BUT lawsuits still going on + Amazingly uncritical of Francis - FR was "susceptible to manipulation" - his version of events is that Francis was so far gone (under the influence, shall we say) that he didn't know what was going on. People started whispering in his ear and (implied) turned him against Alan. + 2013 reunion tour - "I got too popular for Francis" + "Everyone was on our bus - Francis kept himself seperate" - Francis explained that in his book It always seems to be the way - "It wasn't my fault - it was his".
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Post by gav on Oct 24, 2020 12:41:09 GMT
I do feel for Alan in many respects. His feelings go way, way back much before the split - he saw Quo as his band from the start and when Francis became the hit maker (with Bob) it will have bred much resentment - one big long, drawn out battle for top dog IMO, a one-sided battle he couldn't win. He should have either chilled out, backed down, or got out really. But of course, how many of us would?
On the other hand, Francis has popularity in his favour and can as such, write a book with slightly biased manipulations of the truth, and have his story deemed the gospel. Alan doesn't have that luxury, having had his story distorted and written off over the the last 30+ years.
The truth, as always, is somewhere in between IMO!
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Post by noproblems on Oct 24, 2020 18:30:26 GMT
I do feel for Alan in many respects. His feelings go way, way back much before the split - he saw Quo as his band from the start and when Francis became the hit maker (with Bob) it will have bred much resentment - one big long, drawn out battle for top dog IMO, a one-sided battle he couldn't win. He should have either chilled out, backed down, or got out really. But of course, how many of us would? On the other hand, Francis has popularity in his favour and can as such, write a book with slightly biased manipulations of the truth, and have his story deemed the gospel. Alan doesn't have that luxury, having had his story distorted and written off over the the last 30+ years. The truth, as always, is somewhere in between IMO! To say that Francis wrote a book with slightly biased manipulation of the truth is harsh. It would have been more accurate to say it was his verion of events, or if you like, his version of the truth. The "truth" is usually that both parties contributed to the problems, but neither wants to admit it. To his credit, Francis has taken some (ok, a little bit) of the blame for the end of the Frantic Four. He explained his reasons for not wanting to get the Frantic Four back on a permanent basis, and encouraged the other three to continue without him. On the other hand, Alan won't admit to anything, just holds his hands up and says 'not my fault, guv - blame Francis'. He comes across and easy going, laid back, nothing bothers him in various interviews I've listened to - an angel of light. He should be in politics (he reminds me of Phoney Bliar Tony Blair).
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Post by frozenhero on Oct 27, 2020 19:12:47 GMT
If you really want to be in a particular band yet have an ongoing conflict with the guy who's essentially calling the shots, this is not going to end well. Let's call it a hate-love relationship.
However, the internal manipulations probably happened, given that Bob was also removed from the band before he could realize what was going on with the band's finances
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Post by craydarr on Nov 8, 2020 11:15:57 GMT
Two sides to every story and in most arguments it’s 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I think you will find that’s same in this case as well.
I really feel for Alan at times, it can’t have been easy having his livelihood taken away from him, but to me he should have let it lie a long time ago and just got on wit his life. The stress of it all can’t have helped his health any.
John is the star as far as I’m concerned. The way he has got on with his life, kept his dignity and done his own thing is great as far as I can see. Good on ya John 🙂
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Post by per on Nov 30, 2020 16:40:07 GMT
Does he mention the PLC project? It would be really interesting to know if there actually were any recordings made, and if so: how much did they manage to do? The information about this has been differing alot from different scources. If there are any recordings it would be great if they could finish them and release them!
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Post by Quoincidence on Dec 1, 2020 0:12:29 GMT
Does he mention the PLC project? It would be really interesting to know if there actually were any recordings made, and if so: how much did they manage to do? The information about this has been differing alot from different scources. If there are any recordings it would be great if they could finish them and release them! I don't think, whatever there is, will ever be released - simply because I think Alan is holding out thinking Rossi will get involved just so the Status Quo name can be slapped on the project, because let's face it... PLC is such a e name.
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Post by craydarr on Dec 27, 2020 16:27:54 GMT
www.cattales.co.uk/78-the-one-with-status-quos-alan-lancaster/AUGUST 2020 + Selling his guitars because he can't lift them anymore + Status Quo has cost him more than he made from it + Band broke up "immediately after Live Aid" + BUT lawsuits still going on + Amazingly uncritical of Francis - FR was "susceptible to manipulation" - his version of events is that Francis was so far gone (under the influence, shall we say) that he didn't know what was going on. People started whispering in his ear and (implied) turned him against Alan. + 2013 reunion tour - "I got too popular for Francis" + "Everyone was on our bus - Francis kept himself seperate" - Francis explained that in his book It always seems to be the way - "It wasn't my fault - it was his". I find the phrase below very interesting, Frame has used this as well to describe the separation between him and Rick. “People started whispering in his ear and (implied) turned him against Alan. “
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Post by ant on Dec 28, 2020 11:05:12 GMT
Nice balanced discussion!
It's a shame that Alan can't let it go and get on with his life. If he can't lift his guitars anymore then, with the best will in the world, it's hard to see how the FF could have gone much further than 2014. In all truth, Alan was clearly struggling back then.
Get the damned PLC stuff out, Alan! I remember a while back that John Eden was trying to get him to do some vocals, so there is clearly enough to release with that little extra push. Even with Francis involved it wouldn't sell to many more than the current fans, and they'd buy it anyway, so jfdi (just ******* do it).
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Post by noproblems on Dec 29, 2020 16:37:17 GMT
Get the damned PLC stuff out, Alan! I remember a while back that John Eden was trying to get him to do some vocals, so there is clearly enough to release with that little extra push. Even with Francis involved it wouldn't sell to many more than the current fans, and they'd buy it anyway, so jfdi (just ******* do it). From what I've heard in another interview with John Couglan, there is no "PLC" stuff. For whatever reason, the project never got off the ground.
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Post by ant on Jan 4, 2021 16:11:29 GMT
This video at 9:41 would suggest that there is something. Others who seem to have inside knowledge suggets that there are 4 tracks. Maybe they're just demos and maybe Rick didn't do guitars for more than 1, but there's something there.
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