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Post by mortified on Sept 16, 2019 17:06:26 GMT
I didn't even know we had a chart! Well, not since the days of Lena Martell and Lena Zavaroni Pay attention to whats going on in your native land please When you see the calibre of artist we've tended to produce, is it any wonder I look the other way? Since Alex Harvey's demise, it's been a bit hit and miss to put it mildly! I had high hopes for Gun in the late 80's but they went a bit trendy. Waste of a bl00dy good guitarist. I shall now stop moaning
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Post by statusquid on Sept 16, 2019 17:16:42 GMT
It’s actually no1 in the Scottish album charts. No’1 in the uk physical chart sales. Peaked @ no’9 in the uk download chart. That’s quite impressive & shows Quo are still gaining a new generation of fans.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Sept 16, 2019 19:31:30 GMT
Backbone seems to be at number 23 in the midweek uk album chart.
Unfortunately that seems to be normal for a Quo album of new material. We all buy it on release and then it slides quickly down the chart, whereas greatest hits and Aquostic 1 (also basically a greatest hits) hang around for a bit longer.
Hope they're not too disappointed, I would like them to do another album if possible. Forget chart position, it sold almost as many as QPQ in the first week. I'm impressed that they've bounced back over the last ten years and started getting albums into the top ten again. I was very pleased with number 6, hope that are.
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Post by snakelady on Sept 17, 2019 6:06:17 GMT
Backbone seems to be at number 23 in the midweek uk album chart. Unfortunately that seems to be normal for a Quo album of new material. We all buy it on release and then it slides quickly down the chart, whereas greatest hits and Aquostic 1 (also basically a greatest hits) hang around for a bit longer. Hope they're not too disappointed, I would like them to do another album if possible. Forget chart position, it sold almost as many as QPQ in the first week. I'm impressed that they've bounced back over the last ten years and started getting albums into the top ten again. I was very pleased with number 6, hope that are. Maybe it'll pick up a little again on the strength of the Hyde Park gig. We can always hope .. Although that audience might be more into streaming and not those who're generally into rock music either. Actually I've always wondered why not more of the real (for want of a better word) fans buy the albums. Considering the amount of people who go to Quo gigs they should sell more, even if half of them are so called 'casuals'. I remember at Francis solo gig in Edinburgh there were two guys stood beside us who were as excited and enthused as we were and who considered themselves long time Quo fans. They didn't know a single one of the newer songs, didn't know the albums existed and I had to explain to them about ISOTFC .. With that much music out there these days and nearly no record stores anymore, I suspect the band has a communication problem. They just don't reach the fans anymore, especially the older generation that doesn't browse the internet and online record stores. They did reach them with the Roundhouse gig as that was a solo gig prominently placed in their TV program. I doubt though many of this group would cast more than a fleeting glance at the Hyde Park line-up and Quo does get overlooked there. I do remember Francis having talked about an angle of the same problem in interviews too. That he was approached by people in the supermarket or garden centre along the lines of 'I know you, you used to be in that band ..' and they didn't have a clue Quo were still going. How do you reach your target audience ?
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Post by mortified on Sept 17, 2019 6:24:54 GMT
Backbone seems to be at number 23 in the midweek uk album chart. Unfortunately that seems to be normal for a Quo album of new material. We all buy it on release and then it slides quickly down the chart, whereas greatest hits and Aquostic 1 (also basically a greatest hits) hang around for a bit longer. Hope they're not too disappointed, I would like them to do another album if possible. Forget chart position, it sold almost as many as QPQ in the first week. I'm impressed that they've bounced back over the last ten years and started getting albums into the top ten again. I was very pleased with number 6, hope that are. Maybe it'll pick up a little again on the strength of the Hyde Park gig. We can always hope .. Although that audience might be more into streaming and not those who're generally into rock music either. Actually I've always wondered why not more of the real (for want of a better word) fans buy the albums. Considering the amount of people who go to Quo gigs they should sell more, even if half of them are so called 'casuals'. I remember at Francis solo gig in Edinburgh there were two guys stood beside us who were as excited and enthused as we were and who considered themselves long time Quo fans. They didn't know a single one of the newer songs, didn't know the albums existed and I had to explain to them about ISOTFC .. With that much music out there these days and nearly no record stores anymore, I suspect the band has a communication problem. They just don't reach the fans anymore, especially the older generation that doesn't browse the internet and online record stores. They did reach them with the Roundhouse gig as that was a solo gig prominently placed in their TV program. I doubt though many of this group would cast more than a fleeting glance at the Hyde Park line-up and Quo does get overlooked there. I do remember Francis having talked about an angle of the same problem in interviews too. That he was approached by people in the supermarket or garden centre along the lines of 'I know you, you used to be in that band ..' and they didn't have a clue Quo were still going. How do you reach your target audience ?That's what some people are paid quite highly to do Apart from anything else, what IS Quo's target audience? Since the mid 80's in the UK it's been anyone and everyone and deliberately so. Much as I didn't like to see "my" band on light entertainment TV shows at that age (I know, snobbish to the core ), I have to admit it's probably what has kept the band going this long. Changing the demograph to as many people as you can whilst trying to keep the, eh, discerning rock fan on board. Tricky but they've somehow managed it. So they play 80's retro festivals as well as huge metal events. Not many, if any, achieve that sort of cross-over. I also don't think it matters what the line up is for Hyde Park (or Glastonbury and other festivals for that matter). People go along because they want the 'festival' experience. The line up is almost academic these days. Backbone has done OK but they've used different media to promote it this time. I haven't seen a TV advert for example. Maybe they leave that for compilations etc. It's all been Facebook, YouTube and web based. They also appeared on the front page of the pre-order section on iTunes regularly before release. So you can see how they've altered their approach. 'Targeting' the download generation over and above the usual.
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 17, 2019 8:37:27 GMT
If Frank Laufenberg's Rock Lexikon is correct, Quo's highest chart position in Germany was "Live!" at #3. In fact, ONLY this and the following three studio albums (RAOTW, IYCSTH and WYW) made the top ten. Quite curious. Although sales can hardly be compared, just from the numbers this makes Backbone the highest charting Quo album since 1979! :O
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Post by statusquid on Sept 17, 2019 16:54:45 GMT
If Frank Laufenberg's Rock Lexikon is correct, Quo's highest chart position in Germany was "Live!" at #3. In fact, ONLY this and the following three studio albums (RAOTW, IYCSTH and WYW) made the top ten. Quite curious. Although sales can hardly be compared, just from the numbers this makes Backbone the highest charting Quo album since 1979! :O Both Rockin’ & Live! Sold in excess of 500,000 units each in Germany. (both gold) Around about 1976/77 Quo were one of the biggest acts in Germany. Even today the German market is very strong for Quo. Army (single) stayed @ no’1 for 3 week & sold nearly a million copies.
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Post by col on Sept 18, 2019 8:50:45 GMT
Saw a TV advert for Backbone t'other morning, Monday I think.
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Post by craydarr on Sept 20, 2019 17:27:44 GMT
Still in the top 30 at No. 26
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Post by snakelady on Sept 21, 2019 6:46:34 GMT
More or less what was to be expected without a major marketing campaign and/or publicity event. The vast majority of people simply don't know that the album exists or that it's worth buying ..
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Post by mortified on Sept 21, 2019 6:59:21 GMT
Saw a TV advert for Backbone t'other morning, Monday I think. What you doing watching morning TV? Stop that immediately! You'll go blind
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Post by craydarr on Sept 27, 2019 16:48:55 GMT
No 48 this week, so not too bad 🙂
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Post by statusquid on Sept 27, 2019 20:43:37 GMT
No 48 this week, so not too bad 🙂 No’48 UK sales 1,733. Current total UK sales 13,510.
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Post by craydarr on Sept 28, 2019 9:55:22 GMT
No 48 this week, so not too bad 🙂 Incidentally it’s currently sat at no2. in the Independent album charts and that’s up from no. 4.
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Post by snakelady on Sept 29, 2019 19:20:00 GMT
No 48 this week, so not too bad 🙂 Incidentally it’s currently sat at no2. in the Independent album charts and that’s up from no. 4. Independent meaning small(er) labels as opposed to the majors, who'd throw a lot more money at a campaign ? - And how many sales would a No2 spot require ?
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Post by cammythemortonfan on Sept 29, 2019 23:43:57 GMT
Interesting that it hit number 2 in Switzerland and number 6 in Germany .
When you look at their market in Germany , it’s amazing how few top ten albums they have had there
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Post by craydarr on Sept 30, 2019 5:34:23 GMT
Incidentally it’s currently sat at no2. in the Independent album charts and that’s up from no. 4. Independent meaning small(er) labels as opposed to the majors, who'd throw a lot more money at a campaign ? - And how many sales would a No2 spot require ? See above 🙂
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Post by mortified on Sept 30, 2019 5:44:13 GMT
I find it fascinating that 13,500 or so can get you so high in the charts now. That presumably doesn't include airplay and streaming. I'm pretty sure these contribute nowadays.
And with downloads, no doubt they'll have sold individual tracks like everyone else. How does that work?
Too many variables with the calculations these days for me to demonstrate any sort of accuracy or trend.
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Post by craydarr on Sept 30, 2019 6:02:32 GMT
I find it fascinating that 13,500 or so can get you so high in the charts now. That presumably doesn't include airplay and streaming. I'm pretty sure these contribute nowadays. And with downloads, no doubt they'll have sold individual tracks like everyone else. How does that work? Too many variables with the calculations these days for me to demonstrate any sort of accuracy or trend. I think you are right in all you say, even though I have bought the album I still stream it at home in the hope that it counts in some kind of way.
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Post by snakelady on Sept 30, 2019 8:13:41 GMT
I wouldn't even know how to go about streaming .. Got to say though, that I can't get my head around the absolute sales numbers. There are still so many Quo fans out there not just casuals. Just looking at the recent gig in Ludwigsburg - 100s of Quo shirts could be seen in the audience (and I didn't even wear one ). The people knew the lyrics. And it was just one relatively small venue .. Surely if all these fans would buy the new album (it weren't that many of the streaming generation) numbers should add up to more than just 15 or 20K ? Why do they buy new merchandise, but not the music ??
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Post by frozenhero on Sept 30, 2019 18:15:00 GMT
I wouldn't even know how to go about streaming .. Got to say though, that I can't get my head around the absolute sales numbers. There are still so many Quo fans out there not just casuals. Just looking at the recent gig in Ludwigsburg - 100s of Quo shirts could be seen in the audience (and I didn't even wear one ). The people knew the lyrics. And it was just one relatively small venue .. Surely if all these fans would buy the new album (it weren't that many of the streaming generation) numbers should add up to more than just 15 or 20K ? Why do they buy new merchandise, but not the music ?? You can't stream a t-shirt I thought it was a missed opportunity to not sell the album at the merch. I'm sure it would've sold very well. A lot of people didn't seem to know about the album at all!
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Post by craydarr on Oct 4, 2019 17:00:12 GMT
No. 100 in this weeks uk chart.
No. 11 in the independent album chart.
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Post by craydarr on Oct 4, 2019 17:07:38 GMT
No. 100 in this weeks uk chart. No. 11 in the independent album chart. Interestingly it’s at no.25 in the physical sales chart. Last week it was in the Irish top 50 album charts as well but has now dropped out for this week.
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Post by statusquid on Oct 4, 2019 20:09:21 GMT
No. 100 in this weeks uk chart. No. 11 in the independent album chart. Interestingly it’s at no.25 in the physical sales chart. Last week it was in the Irish top 50 album charts as well but has now dropped out for this week. Week 4 sales 1,095.
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Post by craydarr on Oct 4, 2019 20:33:21 GMT
Interestingly it’s at no.25 in the physical sales chart. Last week it was in the Irish top 50 album charts as well but has now dropped out for this week. Week 4 sales 1,095. How do u know ?
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