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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2019 15:03:47 GMT
There is a thread going on in the unmentionable place at the moment concerning JC's Quo and what sort of a band they are. Obviously I am behind enemy lines to a certain extent in this unmentionable place. What are peoples views on here, I called them a tribute band which didn't go down too well, then I said they could be a cover's band? They maybe just a band? Quoincidence frequents both boards so he will put his views up.
JC's Quo don't write new material and as far as I know they only perform Status Quo tracks. It's splits opinion for me.
What do we think??
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Post by mortified on Aug 30, 2019 15:31:26 GMT
To me, they're a tribute band. But I guess they're anything you want them to be. They contain an ex-member and they play Quo songs. I believe Matt Letley is in an occasional band that do likewise. There are parallels around such as Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash, Dave Hill's Slade and, erm, David van Day's Bucks Fizz. Just out of curiosity, what do most on that site think they are? Or what do they want them to be? I've forgotten my password for over there so I haven't been on. Although I dare say I could re-register.
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Post by mortified on Aug 30, 2019 15:36:17 GMT
Actually, in retrospect, I recall an interview with John where he said they weren't a tribute or a covers act because he originally played on the songs they do. But I can't remember exactly what he said they were though.
If they actually need a label that is.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2019 16:01:34 GMT
To me, they're a tribute band. But I guess they're anything you want them to be. They contain an ex-member and they play Quo songs. I believe Matt Letley is in an occasional band that do likewise. There are parallels around such as Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash, Dave Hill's Slade and, erm, David van Day's Bucks Fizz. Just out of curiosity, what do most on that site think they are? Or what do they want them to be? I've forgotten my password for over there so I haven't been on. Although I dare say I could re-register. Most over there weren't having the tribute/covers angle, they are just a band. The crucial point for me is JC is an ex member, now playing in a different band. So to me they are at the least a covers band, because they only play another bands material.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2019 16:06:51 GMT
To me, they're a tribute band. Be careful man you could get shot saying that somewhere else
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Post by kursaal75 on Aug 30, 2019 17:02:43 GMT
I've seen John's band a few times and I'll be seeing them again at Minehead next month They play a setlist of 70s Quo, that I grew up with. I rather watch JCQ in much smaller venues and pay a ¼ of the price then see the current band play in places like the London 02.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 17:06:18 GMT
To me, they're a tribute band. But I guess they're anything you want them to be. They contain an ex-member and they play Quo songs. I believe Matt Letley is in an occasional band that do likewise. There are parallels around such as Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash, Dave Hill's Slade and, erm, David van Day's Bucks Fizz. Just out of curiosity, what do most on that site think they are? Or what do they want them to be? I've forgotten my password for over there so I haven't been on. Although I dare say I could re-register. Most over there weren't having the tribute/covers angle, they are just a band. The crucial point for me is JC is an ex member, now playing in a different band. So to me they are at the least a covers band, because they only play another bands material.They cover another bands material, but only one particular band, so I've voted tribute.
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Post by craydarr on Aug 30, 2019 17:12:53 GMT
For me because John is part of the FF and one of the people who grafted to establish the band, a person who played on most of the big hit singles, albums and was there for the glory years of the band I think it’s a bit of an insult to call them just a tribute band.
I would just call them a band.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2019 19:32:43 GMT
For me because John is part of the FF and one of the people who grafted to establish the band, a person who played on most of the big hit singles, albums and was there for the glory years of the band I think it’s a bit of an insult to call them just a tribute band. I would just call them a band. I have voted Covers band, it could have been tribute . I agree with what you have said John put a lot of graft in with 60/70's Quo. But the fact remains his band are singing Status Quo songs which obviously he is no longer with.
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Post by craydarr on Aug 30, 2019 19:45:03 GMT
For me because John is part of the FF and one of the people who grafted to establish the band, a person who played on most of the big hit singles, albums and was there for the glory years of the band I think it’s a bit of an insult to call them just a tribute band. I would just call them a band. I have voted Covers band, it could have been tribute . I agree with what you have said John put a lot of graft in with 60/70's Quo. But the fact remains his band are singing Status Quo songs which obviously he is no longer with. I hear where you are coming from but my argument would be that John helped to shape the sounds of those songs and contributed in the making of them. Covers / Tribute bands don't do that, they just replicate what was there. In 1 or 2 instances John also had a co write credit. Also, don't underestimate the input of his moustache, that had a major impact
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2019 19:53:20 GMT
I have voted Covers band, it could have been tribute . I agree with what you have said John put a lot of graft in with 60/70's Quo. But the fact remains his band are singing Status Quo songs which obviously he is no longer with. I hear where you are coming from but my argument would be that John helped too shape the sounds of those songs and contributed in the making of them. Covers / Tribute bands don't do that, they just replicate what was there. In 1 or 2 instances John also had a co write credit. Also, don't underestimate the input of his moustache, that had a major impact I think AL's porn tache was better.
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Post by liberty on Aug 30, 2019 20:50:04 GMT
Francis(an only original member) owns the name Status Quo ,so his band is called ...Status Quo.
John (another original member ) don't own the name so he calls his band JC's Quo.
Alan (another original member,together with a second original member John) none of them owns the name Status Quo,now apparently releasing some material under the name 'Alan Lancasters Bombers'.
Neither of Johns or Alans bands are cover or tribute bands,they are just bands playing songs,in Johns case songs he performed during his successful years in the band Status Quo.
Rick (a so so original member) may your soul rest in peace, is probably turning over in his grave if he could see this drivel.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 30, 2019 22:06:10 GMT
Francis(an only original member) owns the name Status Quo ,so his band is called ...Status Quo. John (another original member ) don't own the name so he calls his band JC's Quo. Alan (another original member,together with a second original member John) none of them owns the name Status Quo,now apparently releasing some material under the name 'Alan Lancasters Bombers'. Neither of Johns or Alans bands are cover or tribute bands,they are just bands playing songs,in Johns case songs he performed during his successful years in the band Status Quo. Rick (a so so original member) may your soul rest in peace, is probably turning over in his grave if he could see this drivel. Drivel? It's only a discussion about people's opinion on something.
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 30, 2019 23:26:48 GMT
I recall an interview with John where he said they weren't a tribute or a covers act because he originally played on the songs they do. This is what I have been saying all along on the other board! They cant be a tribute or a cover band because John appeared on those tracks originally. You cant pay tribute to yourself. Tribute bands are made up of fans of said band that want to pay TRIBUTE to said band Covers bands just play anything that's popular, or has been popular over the years. If JCQ are a tribute, then so are Status Quo these days.. as the setlist contains a good 75% of material from the 70s, and only Rossi (and Andy) appeared on those originally. However, we all know that from '96 to '02 Quo were a covers act that released 3 "wonderful" covers albums haha Both bands are just bands, which is the option I voted for and that's my final word on it all Cheers
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Post by liberty on Aug 31, 2019 4:54:01 GMT
Francis(an only original member) owns the name Status Quo ,so his band is called ...Status Quo. John (another original member ) don't own the name so he calls his band JC's Quo. Alan (another original member,together with a second original member John) none of them owns the name Status Quo,now apparently releasing some material under the name 'Alan Lancasters Bombers'. Neither of Johns or Alans bands are cover or tribute bands,they are just bands playing songs,in Johns case songs he performed during his successful years in the band Status Quo. Rick (a so so original member) may your soul rest in peace, is probably turning over in his grave if he could see this drivel. Drivel? It's only a discussion about people's opinion on something. Exactly,and that's my opinion on the matter.
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Post by mortified on Aug 31, 2019 5:30:34 GMT
It's like I said; its whatever you think they are or want them to be.
Most importantly, it's whatever John and the rest of the band believe they are. A band that play Quo songs is good enough for me. All seems academic as long as you enjoy them.
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Post by snakelady on Aug 31, 2019 6:33:15 GMT
Hm, difficult question .. I do get this 'can't be a tribute as John played on the original recordings'. Neither of them ever wrote a single song for Quo and their set merely consists of Quo tunes though. So just another band they aren't either. Bands that are neither tributes nor cover bands write their own songs. From a legal POV it's clear they're not Status Quo. For these reasons I lean towards cover band - they're not Quo and they cover Quo, exclusively. The fact that some like/prefer the way they play the Quo tunes doesn't come into this. I agree though it is academic - most of what we discuss on here is - most of the time it's merely about opinions or taste. That's what mbs are for ..
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 31, 2019 9:08:50 GMT
Drivel? It's only a discussion about people's opinion on something. Exactly,and that's my opinion on the matter. :oo: Alright, climb out of ar5e now.
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Aug 31, 2019 9:15:16 GMT
Hm, difficult question .. I do get this 'can't be a tribute as John played on the original recordings'. Neither of them ever wrote a single song for Quo and their set merely consists of Quo tunes though. So just another band they aren't either. Bands that are neither tributes nor cover bands write their own songs. From a legal POV it's clear they're not Status Quo. For these reasons I lean towards cover band - they're not Quo and they cover Quo, exclusively. The fact that some like/prefer the way they play the Quo tunes doesn't come into this. I agree though it is academic - most of what we discuss on here is - most of the time it's merely about opinions or taste. That's what mbs are for .. This.
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Post by viking55 on Aug 31, 2019 9:38:43 GMT
I’ve voted for covers simply because they have not written any material for themselves. If they played some of their own Songs then I would have voted ‘ Another Band ‘. Not a tribute as he plays songs solely from when he was a member of the band. Just my opinion.
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Post by liberty on Aug 31, 2019 13:27:13 GMT
Exactly,and that's my opinion on the matter. Alright, climb out of ar5e now. ????
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Post by castlependragon on Aug 31, 2019 15:32:07 GMT
To me they are a tribute band , paying tribute to the time JC was involved with the band
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Post by Quoincidence on Aug 31, 2019 16:16:25 GMT
To me they are a tribute band , paying tribute to the time JC was involved with the band How can they be a tribute band, when John would essentially just be paying tribute to himself. Definition of a tribute band "A tribute band does not include members of the original band whose music is being honoured. If a member is included in a band performing the music of their original group, the band is seen as a spin-off band rather than a tribute band." Calling them a tribute band is plain f*cking stupid
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Post by LOZ on Aug 31, 2019 16:38:54 GMT
it`s a bit like UB40, you had 1 band which split in 2 and they both go out as UB40.
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Post by snakelady on Aug 31, 2019 18:08:37 GMT
it`s a bit like UB40, you had 1 band which split in 2 and they both go out as UB40. Not quite Loz - that more reminds me of Barclay James Harvest e.g. Quo never split into two bands .. Obviously a lot of emotions in this one - but please, Isaac Ryan, liberty and Quoincidence, there's no need for insults and aggressiveness just because you don't share someone else's opinion. So far, the majority does consider JCQ a tribute act, whether I or anybody else agrees (which I don't) or not ..
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