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Post by mortified on May 18, 2019 5:57:24 GMT
I'll be honest, I didn't even know the UK had a country chart until this thread I like to keep up to speed with most of what's going on in terms of new releases and I haven't seen a single country album being touted - apart from the Rossi/Rickard one - and only then because I'd obviously notice that one. So I Googled it. In the chart I presume craydarr is quoting, they are indeed no.4. Kiefer Sutherland is no.1 (yes, THAT Kiefer Sutherland!) but I also notice that they have the late J J Cale's new album at no.3. Hmm, it's not strictly country to these ears. Always been a bit of a J J Cale fan and he leans much more towards the blues. As this album does. OK, he wears a cowboy hat, but I don't think that swings it In the iTunes country chart, Francis and Hannah don't figure in the top 100 and they are selling the album as "alternative country". Incidentally, Shania Twain is no.1 in that chart with her greatest hits. I don't think there's any doubt that the album will have shifted a few thousand copies. The book on the other hand will likely be doing extremely well. I can't find a reliable book chart, certainly not one for autobiographies, but I did read an article that they are now the lowest selling type of book in the UK compared to 15 years ago when they had a substantial percentage of the market. I also read that Peter Kay's autobiography had generated £9.5 million in revenue since 2001! You can see why he might want to promote the book more than the album! And I dare say he got a tidy advance from the publishers as well They'll be quite happy with the talk tours.
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Post by snakelady on May 18, 2019 7:24:23 GMT
Was probably part of the deal right from the start and would explain why his co-author had to be there as well (as opposed to someone from the Quo camp or Hannah). These various types of charts have existed for a long time and the choice of contenders for the different styles has always been dubious to say the least - remember when Marguerita Time made #1 in the metal chart ? - only we don't usually get to hear from them. I'd not even know where to find them or who puts them together (yes, I know, google/bing ..). But I'm not the least bit surprised to find that guys wearing country boots or similar is enough to qualify. I did like Kiefer Sutherland in the 24 series, the one downside it had was, they killed the main personnel as quickly as Game Of Thrones (of which I'm not a fan !). I don't think it's just bios that don't sell much any more. Not even e-books. The younger generations just don't read any longer, they don't even watch the telly much - they're content with their computers and smart phones. Books are too much of hard work for them. The e-media offers instant entertainment - what they want when they want. I grew up ploughing my way through my parents' library including all the classics. My boys could never be tempted to do the same with our library, no matter how hard I tried. They only rarely read and very selective. And there's a younger generation growing up now that reads even less ..
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Post by mortified on May 18, 2019 8:02:52 GMT
snakelady , I think it's just a question of younger generations gradually doing things entirely differently because they have different options. I dare say we were the same, certainly with clothes and music. I agree, though, that everything is more 'instant' but all generations are guilty of indirectly encouraging that. I mean you have an American president with a Twitter account! My stepdaughter won't read an e-book. She refuses and is usually seen with her nose in an actual book Then again, she can't function without her phone permanently on Facebook by her side, pinging every time a message comes through or there's some activity on her 'time-line'. But she's no youngster at 28, so it crosses multiple generations.
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Post by craydarr on May 26, 2019 15:34:26 GMT
Week 10 now no 6.
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Post by craydarr on May 31, 2019 16:52:49 GMT
Week 11, down to no 8
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Post by mortified on Jun 1, 2019 6:55:39 GMT
But it just won't go away, will it?
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Post by craydarr on Jun 1, 2019 7:05:48 GMT
But it just won't go away, will it? [br You know you love it really 😁
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Post by snakelady on Jun 1, 2019 7:10:49 GMT
I've no idea how many units you've got to shift to make the top 10 in the country charts. I'd suspect it's merely a few 100, so basically irrelevant and negligible - same as all charts these days. It does sound good though and Francis doesn't need the money from record sales. And, considering they recorded it at his home studio and no expensive producer involved, making it will have been cheap. So hopefully Hannah will make a few quid from sales anyway. Now can we please have that Quo album we're all waiting for ??
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Post by craydarr on Jun 1, 2019 7:17:33 GMT
I've no idea how many units you've got to shift to make the top 10 in the country charts. I'd suspect it's merely a few 100, so basically irrelevant and negligible - same as all charts these days. It does sound good though and Francis doesn't need the money from record sales. And, considering they recorded it at his home studio and no expensive producer involved, making it will have been cheap. So hopefully Hannah will make a few quid from sales anyway. Now can we please have that Quo album we're all waiting for ?? It looks good in stats to say “ no1 Uk Country album” As you say Fran doesn’t need the money, but it would be great to think Hannah can make a few quid from it. It’s also good from a resume point of view for her as well. No1 Country album and working with Fran.
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Post by snakelady on Jun 1, 2019 7:27:49 GMT
I've no idea how many units you've got to shift to make the top 10 in the country charts. I'd suspect it's merely a few 100, so basically irrelevant and negligible - same as all charts these days. It does sound good though and Francis doesn't need the money from record sales. And, considering they recorded it at his home studio and no expensive producer involved, making it will have been cheap. So hopefully Hannah will make a few quid from sales anyway. Now can we please have that Quo album we're all waiting for ?? It looks good in stats to say “ no1 Uk Country album” As you say Fran doesn’t need the money, but it would be great to think Hannah can make a few quid from it. It’s also good from a resume point of view for her as well. No1 Country album and working with Fran. Yes, indeed A point in her CV that should prove helpful and open doors in her future career. And she'll have to survive much longer now in this tricky business than Francis. A thought has just sprung to mind (nothing to do with Hannah): Does anybody else think now that Francis doesn't have to look after Rick any longer and make sure the band creates enough steady income to support his generous ways of living, he suddenly feels free to do the things he likes. Additionally Rick's passing has brought home there might be not that much time left for him either, which makes outside projects he might've always wanted to do appear more urgent, which pushes Quo more to the back ?
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Post by craydarr on Jun 1, 2019 7:40:15 GMT
It looks good in stats to say “ no1 Uk Country album” As you say Fran doesn’t need the money, but it would be great to think Hannah can make a few quid from it. It’s also good from a resume point of view for her as well. No1 Country album and working with Fran. Yes, indeed A point in her CV that should prove helpful and open doors in her future career. And she'll have to survive much longer now in this tricky business than Francis. A thought has just sprung to mind (nothing to do with Hannah): Does anybody else think now that Francis doesn't have to look after Rick any longer and make sure the band creates enough steady income to support his generous ways of living, he suddenly feels free to do the things he likes. Additionally Rick's passing has brought home there might be not that much time left for him either, which makes outside projects he might've always wanted to do appear more urgent, which pushes Quo more to the back ? You could be right and also the fact he hasn’t got anything to prove anymore. I think the time off and working on other projects could prove to be a very beneficial to the band. When they release the new album it could be a corker 🙂
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Post by mortified on Jun 1, 2019 8:27:22 GMT
Yes, indeed A point in her CV that should prove helpful and open doors in her future career. And she'll have to survive much longer now in this tricky business than Francis. A thought has just sprung to mind (nothing to do with Hannah): Does anybody else think now that Francis doesn't have to look after Rick any longer and make sure the band creates enough steady income to support his generous ways of living, he suddenly feels free to do the things he likes. Additionally Rick's passing has brought home there might be not that much time left for him either, which makes outside projects he might've always wanted to do appear more urgent, which pushes Quo more to the back ? You could be right and also the fact he hasn’t got anything to prove anymore.I think the time off and working on other projects could prove to be a very beneficial to the band. When they release the new album it could be a corker 🙂 He does to me I bet he's quaking in his boots I'm actually really keen to hear a new Quo album because it's been quite a long time and I am just a little irritated that one member out of the five is dictating when, where and even if. And possibly even the direction of it. OK, he is the principal member of the band but he's not the ONLY member. Or is that just the way things are now?
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Post by mortified on Jun 5, 2019 6:39:37 GMT
He is formally and publicly absolved. These two new Quo songs are belters. Just thought I'd do the skulk away with the tail between the legs thing
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Post by craydarr on Jun 5, 2019 18:33:24 GMT
He is formally and publicly absolved. These two new Quo songs are belters. Just thought I'd do the skulk away with the tail between the legs thing So you blooming well should do
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Post by craydarr on Jun 7, 2019 16:59:42 GMT
Week 12, no. 9
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Post by liberty on Jun 11, 2019 17:52:55 GMT
I wish these line dancing feckers would stop buying it. Then we might get a Quo album. September I've heard.
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Post by craydarr on Jun 14, 2019 18:37:10 GMT
Week 13, no 11 Slipping Down now :hlwn4:
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Post by craydarr on Jun 22, 2019 6:09:20 GMT
Week 14, no. 14
Hanging on in there. That’s another 6 copies it’s sold. 😃
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Post by mortified on Jun 22, 2019 6:20:59 GMT
I've only actually listened to the album once all the way through; and even then in two sessions. It's funny; I think I prefer it to King Of The Doghouse but I listened to that a lot more. I obviously gave that one more of a chance. Getting less tolerant with age. Life's getting too short to waste any time
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Post by craydarr on Jun 22, 2019 6:26:58 GMT
I've only actually listened to the album once all the way through; and even then in two sessions. It's funny; I think I prefer it to King Of The Doghouse but I listened to that a lot more. I obviously gave that one more of a chance. Getting less tolerant with age. Life's getting too short to waste any time I like some of it, but there are some on there that just sound like sub standard Quo songs to me. The ones that are of interest are the ones that are different, “heartbreaker” immediately comes to mind.
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Post by snakelady on Jun 22, 2019 8:01:46 GMT
I suppose once records enter the country charts high enough, they take on a life of their own, as that'll be a close knit community, maligned by everybody else (does that remind you of something ?). So all UK country fans are buying it sooner or later, just because of this. Seems it now has reached full capacity nearly
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Jun 23, 2019 23:46:14 GMT
I've only actually listened to the album once all the way through; and even then in two sessions. It's funny; I think I prefer it to King Of The Doghouse but I listened to that a lot more. I obviously gave that one more of a chance. Getting less tolerant with age. Life's getting too short to waste any time I did not expect to like the album, and the first time I listened to it, I didn't. But if I've learnt anything over the years, it's to give music a few chances before you give up on it. And each time I listened to it I liked it more. So I actually like the whole album now. Its not Quo, it's not riff driven, and I haven't listened to it nearly as much as I would a new Quo album....but I do like it.
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Post by snakelady on Jun 24, 2019 6:19:17 GMT
I've only actually listened to the album once all the way through; and even then in two sessions. It's funny; I think I prefer it to King Of The Doghouse but I listened to that a lot more. I obviously gave that one more of a chance. Getting less tolerant with age. Life's getting too short to waste any time I did not expect to like the album, and the first time I listened to it, I didn't. But if I've learnt anything over the years, it's to give music a few chances before you give up on it. And each time I listened to it I liked it more. So I actually like the whole album now. Its not Quo, it's not riff driven, and I haven't listened to it nearly as much as I would a new Quo album....but I do like it. Exactly the same for me !
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Post by mortified on Jun 24, 2019 7:20:56 GMT
I didn't expect to like the album and I guess I don't really. It's OK for what it is. And what it is just isn't for me. But strength to his arm for doing it and wanting to do more. If it gives him an outlet for his frustrations and helps him keep this stuff away from Quo I'll be perfectly happy.
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Post by snakelady on Jun 25, 2019 8:09:22 GMT
I didn't expect to like the album and I guess I don't really. It's OK for what it is. And what it is just isn't for me. But strength to his arm for doing it and wanting to do more. If it gives him an outlet for his frustrations and helps him keep this stuff away from Quo I'll be perfectly happy. Yep, that IMO is exactly what a solo album should be about - an outlet for the music he writes and likes, but that's not suited for Quo. As general direction at least. I do like my Quo albums diverse in style and tempo. They've always been like that, including the 70s 'rock' albums. I do want some rock from Quo though, so it's fine if he gets the country out of his system by means of a non-Quo album.
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