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Post by craydarr on Mar 20, 2019 19:58:44 GMT
Fran and Hannah’s album is showing at no 36 in the midweek chart . 🙂
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Post by kursaal75 on Mar 20, 2019 21:26:19 GMT
Funny earlier on 'The One Show' on BBC1, Bonnie Tyler was being interviewed regarding her new album and she said there's some duets on the album with, Rod Stewart, Barrie Gibb and she nearly said Sir Francis Rossi, she actually said.. Sir Francis....Francis Rossi
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Post by mortified on Mar 21, 2019 6:25:01 GMT
That's quite respectable. It's already beat Perfect Remedy
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Post by snakelady on Mar 21, 2019 7:42:20 GMT
Funny earlier on 'The One Show' on BBC1, Bonnie Tyler was being interviewed regarding her new album and she said there's some duets on the album with, Rod Stewart, Barrie Gibb and she nearly said Sir Francis Rossi, she actually said.. Sir Francis....Francis Rossi Wasn't aware one of the Gibbs was still alive. Seems 'Sir Francis' has been quite busy recently ..
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Post by mortified on Mar 21, 2019 8:03:26 GMT
Funny earlier on 'The One Show' on BBC1, Bonnie Tyler was being interviewed regarding her new album and she said there's some duets on the album with, Rod Stewart, Barrie Gibb and she nearly said Sir Francis Rossi, she actually said.. Sir Francis....Francis Rossi Wasn't aware one of the Gibbs was still alive. Seems 'Sir Francis' has been quite busy recently .. He released a solo album a couple of years ago. I saw him perform the title track on (I think) Jools Holland on BBC and it was actually quite good. Not sure what the rest of the album was like though.
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Post by craydarr on Mar 22, 2019 17:49:48 GMT
Its No 65 for the full week position
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Post by LOZ on Mar 22, 2019 17:55:26 GMT
im surprized its as high as that. are country music fans buying it then.
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Post by kursaal75 on Mar 22, 2019 18:15:14 GMT
.....only 61 positions lower then Rick's album after the first week of release
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Post by statusquid on Mar 22, 2019 19:51:04 GMT
Number 65....1,662 uk sales. Ricks Over & out sold approx 8,500 copies on its 1st week sales. In comparison Aquostic (stripped bare) shifted 25,000 ...1st week.
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Post by kursaal75 on Mar 23, 2019 7:29:10 GMT
Number 65....1,662 uk sales. Ricks Over & out sold approx 8,500 copies on its 1st week sales. In comparison Aquostic (stripped bare) shifted 25,000 ...1st week. Funny how chart positions and sales can differ regarding on release dates. Aquostic sold nearly 3 times more album's then Rick's Over & Done in the first week, but entered the chart a position lower at 5
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Post by viking55 on Mar 23, 2019 9:22:49 GMT
.....only 61 positions lower then Rick's album after the first week of release Francis solo music of choice is not popular with the majority of Quo fans genre wise so he will never pick up many sales from them. Rick stuck to boogie Rock which entirely endered him to Quo fans hence his sales. Overall though for a Posthumous and final release I think those sales figures were disappointing.
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Post by mortified on Mar 23, 2019 9:43:23 GMT
.....only 61 positions lower then Rick's album after the first week of release Francis solo music of choice is not popular with the majority of Quo fans genre wise so he will never pick up many sales from them. Rick stuck to boogie Rock which entirely endered him to Quo fans hence his sales. Overall though for a Posthumous and final release I think those sales figures were disappointing. I agree with the first half of what you say. Francis's solo choice of music is not only not popular with most Quo fans but it's also not very popular with the general public. He likes it, which is fine. Play the music you like. I know I would. But although there is a certain limited country market in the UK, it's not with the music buying public. Same as jazz or classical music. People may like it but they don't buy it in enough numbers all at the same time to make any difference. I personally think the sales of Rick's album were pretty good. Very few 'solo' albums from well known band members do anything. The Stones couldn't be a better, more prime example of that. Posthumous only really seems to count when the artist is an established solo performer in the first place.
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Post by snakelady on Mar 23, 2019 9:49:03 GMT
Yep, that's about it - it's country music and he's still alive. That's two mistakes when it comes to album sales. Seems the whole marketing campaign is merely about the book too - or have Francis and Hannah appeared on a single show on the telly playing a song ? Personally I think that's a shame. Would've preferred it had he taken her with him on tour instead of Mick Wall. Obviously someone saw more marketing perspective with the book .. (which is good, just a shame how HR is put back).
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Post by viking55 on Mar 23, 2019 11:58:23 GMT
Yeah I’m surprised he didn’t have Hannah making a few appearances on this talk tour. Even just to perform a couple of songs from the album. After all it is the title of the tour and album. Maybe on some dates it might happen who knows. The equation probably is Hannah’s fee v Increased album sales. Would it be financially worth it ?
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Post by mortified on Mar 23, 2019 12:42:30 GMT
Yep, that's about it - it's country music and he's still alive. That's two mistakes when it comes to album sales. Seems the whole marketing campaign is merely about the book too - or have Francis and Hannah appeared on a single show on the telly playing a song ? Personally I think that's a shame. Would've preferred it had he taken her with him on tour instead of Mick Wall. Obviously someone saw more marketing perspective with the book .. (which is good, just a shame how HR is put back). Not that I'm aware of. It seems to all be about the book with just a passing mention about the album. Smacks of nepotism to me.
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Post by snakelady on Mar 24, 2019 6:44:23 GMT
Yep, that's about it - it's country music and he's still alive. That's two mistakes when it comes to album sales. Seems the whole marketing campaign is merely about the book too - or have Francis and Hannah appeared on a single show on the telly playing a song ? Personally I think that's a shame. Would've preferred it had he taken her with him on tour instead of Mick Wall. Obviously someone saw more marketing perspective with the book .. (which is good, just a shame how HR is put back). Not that I'm aware of. It seems to all be about the book with just a passing mention about the album. Smacks of nepotism to me. She may have been an equal partner for Francis while making the album, but for the management/marketing guys she clearly is not. On the other hand - it's how they've done it for decades: Two faces of the band and the rest doesn't exist as far as the general public goes. What I don't get though is - why the sole concentration on the book ? Is that really merely down to numbers sold, 2000 or 12000 doesn't really make a difference in terms of financial result, so it's seen as Francis' hobby merely, something he just needs to do occasionally to get it out of his system ?
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Post by johns on Mar 25, 2019 11:38:08 GMT
On a positive note the album is the No.1 Country album in the UK. It charted well on physical sales (No.24), No.16 in Scottish charts, No.9 Indie Album.
Charts are strange animals and like was said elsewhere the time of year can affect sales (god knows why).
Also there is no point in comparing it to Rick's album. For me (and I know this is an unpopular opinion), Rick's album sold reasonably well because of his death which is what happens with a lot of artists.
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Post by mortified on Mar 25, 2019 16:26:34 GMT
I get the impression this 'talk' promotion tour will have an impact. There were as many people buying CD's on Saturday as there were buying the book. Whether that counts towards the charts, I have no idea. I think it's also academic these days. For someone like Quo or someone from Quo. It looks good if they chart and, if I'm honest it also feels good as a fan, but I'm not sure how important it is financially. I did read an interview with Francis in the "Mojo" last week where he says he's 'thinking' about doing a new Quo album but wants to do another with Hannah. The FTMO a couple of issues back gave the impression that a Quo album was actively being recorded and Francis was producing so I don't know what the actual story is. But it did fill me with some dismay that the album I thought might come out this year almost certainly won't. So roll on Rhino's next release. For me anyway.
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Post by snakelady on Mar 26, 2019 9:41:24 GMT
I get the impression this 'talk' promotion tour will have an impact. There were as many people buying CD's on Saturday as there were buying the book. Whether that counts towards the charts, I have no idea. I think it's also academic these days. For someone like Quo or someone from Quo. It looks good if they chart and, if I'm honest it also feels good as a fan, but I'm not sure how important it is financially. I did read an interview with Francis in the "Mojo" last week where he says he's 'thinking' about doing a new Quo album but wants to do another with Hannah. The FTMO a couple of issues back gave the impression that a Quo album was actively being recorded and Francis was producing so I don't know what the actual story is. But it did fill me with some dismay that the album I thought might come out this year almost certainly won't. So roll on Rhino's next release. For me anyway. That's what I expected as well - a new Quo album later this year. By the sound of it the band had been in the middle of writing and recording it in winter already, but somehow he's brushing over it. Seems he's having too much fun with the current project .. . And I'm not sure I want another R/R album either - at least not that soon after the first. There's other stuff I'd be looking forward to more: the aforementioned Quo album a new electric set an acoustic tour (Which will never happen, I know ..) a solo tour - with or without Hannah Actually - wouldn't it be nice if we'd get something of a schedule for the year ahead during winter - when to expect which tours and releases ? Surely all contracts for these have by then been signed long ago. Can't see that doing any commercial harm if we'd know ahead Francis' book and album are released in March, Rhino's album in August say and the new Quo album in November. And what about a book from Rhino and Andy ? The talk tour will certainly have an impact on sales. Reminds me of the pub tour in a way - relatively small sized audiences, but relatively high profile too. Whether it shows in the charts is another matter, as sales are spread over the six (?) weeks the tour lasts too. Suppose though Francis will be happy with the number of pieces sold in the end.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Mar 26, 2019 23:26:41 GMT
On a positive note the album is the No.1 Country album in the UK. It charted well on physical sales (No.24), No.16 in Scottish charts, No.9 Indie Album. Charts are strange animals and like was said elsewhere the time of year can affect sales (god knows why). Also there is no point in comparing it to Rick's album. For me (and I know this is an unpopular opinion), Rick's album sold reasonably well because of his death which is what happens with a lot of artists. I think this is true if Rick had released the album before he passed I suspect it would only have reached a similar chart position as Francis one has. Queen is a great example of this. When The Show Must Go On was released in October 1991, it reached the mid teens in the chart. A month later Freddie dies and the re-releases reach much higher chart positions.
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