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Post by Rick Roper on Nov 1, 2017 9:50:16 GMT
Having been away from here for a while, I was wondering if there's any more news on the re-mastering of the End of the Road videos onto DVD? I've searched and can't find the thread where this was being discussed (I remember the discussion was about the footage being cleaned up to eliminate colour bleed, etc.), but am really interested in acquiring this and More From the Road, if and when it's been remastered and cleaned up. Any further information much appreciated!
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Post by mortified on Nov 1, 2017 10:12:28 GMT
Not heard a Dickie. Was it official or someone putting it together privately?
Combining the two video releases into the one DVD and sorting out the set list running order as well as those hideous edits on Forty-Five Hundred Times and Roadhouse Blues would be a masterstroke if it could be done.
I was actually quite surprised that they didn't clean up and release the NEC gig on DVD to coincide with the issue of the CD the other week. There was surely an opportunity to have one of the formats in an expensive all in one package.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 11:05:40 GMT
Having been away from here for a while, I was wondering if there's any more news on the re-mastering of the End of the Road videos onto DVD? I've searched and can't find the thread where this was being discussed (I remember the discussion was about the footage being cleaned up to eliminate colour bleed, etc.), but am really interested in acquiring this and More From the Road, if and when it's been remastered and cleaned up. Any further information much appreciated!
Rick Roper. Quoincidence is the guy putting it all together, both audio and video as far as I am aware. The other board will have up to date info on its current progression |
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Post by Rick Roper on Nov 1, 2017 12:51:26 GMT
Having been away from here for a while, I was wondering if there's any more news on the re-mastering of the End of the Road videos onto DVD? I've searched and can't find the thread where this was being discussed (I remember the discussion was about the footage being cleaned up to eliminate colour bleed, etc.), but am really interested in acquiring this and More From the Road, if and when it's been remastered and cleaned up. Any further information much appreciated!
Rick Roper. Quoincidence is the guy putting it all together, both audio and video as far as I am aware. The other board will have up to date info on its current progression Ah yes, I remember now, Thank You! If you're still here Quoincidence, any chance of an update?
If not, does anyone have the address of the other board please, I'll check there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 13:04:24 GMT
Quoincidence is the guy putting it all together, both audio and video as far as I am aware. The other board will have up to date info on its current progression Ah yes, I remember now, Thank You! If you're still here Quoincidence, any chance of an update?
If not, does anyone have the address of the other board please, I'll check there.
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Try this link Rick, hope its of some help statusquo.boards.net/thread/6195/end-road-1984-out-soon |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 1, 2017 18:02:37 GMT
I was told I was wanted over here  Regarding the project, I started to do DVD tests not long ago and it didn't turn out well as the project file size is massive, so I'll need to find some way to compress it without losing too much quality. Other than that it's practically finished. This is a preview (with a bit of a glitch at the beginning from a rendering issue). I did have the full Forty Five Hundred Times up, but Carl Traill claimed it as his and youtube took it down. Youtube really does it no justice. |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 1, 2017 18:07:43 GMT
Not heard a Dickie. Was it official or someone putting it together privately? Combining the two video releases into the one DVD and sorting out the set list running order as well as those hideous edits on Forty-Five Hundred Times and Roadhouse Blues would be a masterstroke if it could be done. I was actually quite surprised that they didn't clean up and release the NEC gig on DVD to coincide with the issue of the CD the other week. There was surely an opportunity to have one of the formats in an expensive all in one package. They didn't bother with a DVD because, and I quote; "We didn’t do the DVD as frankly they are too expensive and no one tends to watch them! – we may be doing a DVD compilation next year, just finalising plans now." - This was after they had JUST released the LNoTE DVD, but apparently no one watches them?  As for an official End Of The Road release, we could see one at some point. The audio has been remastered, the full tapes that is... not the edited ones we all know and hate. Regarding footage, the last I heard is they was tracking them down with Bob Young as they're not in their vaults, but they could be under something else. So they don't know what footage they do and don't have, the warehouse fire story was BS. It could see a release in 2019 for the 35th Anniversary, if they find who holds the rights to the tapes these days. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 19:04:30 GMT
Not heard a Dickie. Was it official or someone putting it together privately? Combining the two video releases into the one DVD and sorting out the set list running order as well as those hideous edits on Forty-Five Hundred Times and Roadhouse Blues would be a masterstroke if it could be done. I was actually quite surprised that they didn't clean up and release the NEC gig on DVD to coincide with the issue of the CD the other week. There was surely an opportunity to have one of the formats in an expensive all in one package. They didn't bother with a DVD because, and I quote; "We didn’t do the DVD as frankly they are too expensive and no one tends to watch them! – we may be doing a DVD compilation next year, just finalising plans now." - This was after they had JUST released the LNoTE DVD, but apparently no one watches them? As for an official End Of The Road release, we could see one at some point. The audio has been remastered, the full tapes that is... not the edited ones we all know and hate. Regarding footage, the last I heard is they was tracking them down with Bob Young as they're not in their vaults, but they could be under something else. So they don't know what footage they do and don't have, the warehouse fire story was BS. It could see a release in 2019 for the 35th Anniversary, if they find who holds the rights to the tapes these days. I wasn't aware they had found the full tapes (audio)  |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 1, 2017 19:25:33 GMT
They didn't bother with a DVD because, and I quote; "We didn’t do the DVD as frankly they are too expensive and no one tends to watch them! – we may be doing a DVD compilation next year, just finalising plans now." - This was after they had JUST released the LNoTE DVD, but apparently no one watches them? As for an official End Of The Road release, we could see one at some point. The audio has been remastered, the full tapes that is... not the edited ones we all know and hate. Regarding footage, the last I heard is they was tracking them down with Bob Young as they're not in their vaults, but they could be under something else. So they don't know what footage they do and don't have, the warehouse fire story was BS. It could see a release in 2019 for the 35th Anniversary, if they find who holds the rights to the tapes these days. I wasn't aware they had found the full tapes (audio) They've had them for a long time but not bothered with them until recently. Around the time of the Pictures Documentary *things* were being found. This is from the officially remastered tapes, released last year on a Status Quo compilation and included on the singles vinyls (I think) The original audio was mixed by Tim Summerhayes, whereas the recent mix is Andy Pearce. Next year there's another LIVE surprise coming, not before released... I'm sure some of you will enjoy it, if it follows through! but that's all I can say. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 19:30:21 GMT
I wasn't aware they had found the full tapes (audio) They've had them for a long time but not bothered with them until recently. Around the time of the Pictures Documentary *things* were being found. This is from the officially remastered tapes, released last year on a Status Quo compilation and included on the singles vinyls (I think) Next year there's another LIVE surprise coming, not before released... I'm sure some of you will enjoy it, if it follows through! but that's all I can say. And we were all led to believe they had been destroyed  Can you tell me which compilation that clip is from please |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 1, 2017 19:35:48 GMT
They've had them for a long time but not bothered with them until recently. Around the time of the Pictures Documentary *things* were being found. This is from the officially remastered tapes, released last year on a Status Quo compilation and included on the singles vinyls (I think) Next year there's another LIVE surprise coming, not before released... I'm sure some of you will enjoy it, if it follows through! but that's all I can say. And we were all led to believe they had been destroyed  Can you tell me which compilation that clip is from please It's on 'Whatever You Want - The Essential; Status Quo. It was released around this time last year, so I slapped it over some footage Here's a link to it. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N65FZL4/ref=pm_ws_tlw_trk39 |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 1, 2017 22:40:50 GMT
Not heard a Dickie. Was it official or someone putting it together privately? Combining the two video releases into the one DVD and sorting out the set list running order as well as those hideous edits on Forty-Five Hundred Times and Roadhouse Blues would be a masterstroke if it could be done. I was actually quite surprised that they didn't clean up and release the NEC gig on DVD to coincide with the issue of the CD the other week. There was surely an opportunity to have one of the formats in an expensive all in one package. They didn't bother with a DVD because, and I quote; "We didn’t do the DVD as frankly they are too expensive and no one tends to watch them! – we may be doing a DVD compilation next year, just finalising plans now." - This was after they had JUST released the LNoTE DVD, but apparently no one watches them? As for an official End Of The Road release, we could see one at some point. The audio has been remastered, the full tapes that is... not the edited ones we all know and hate. Regarding footage, the last I heard is they was tracking them down with Bob Young as they're not in their vaults, but they could be under something else. So they don't know what footage they do and don't have, the warehouse fire story was BS. It could see a release in 2019 for the 35th Anniversary, if they find who holds the rights to the tapes these days. No one watches them is that why Queen at the Rainbow on DVD was out of stock as soon as it was released. |
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Post by mortified on Nov 2, 2017 6:29:02 GMT
I wouldn't have thought who "watches" them was of any consequence. It's who BUYS them that counts. Or have I completely missed the point? Ta for the info, Quoincidence.  Incidentally, as well as that CD compilation just before last Christmas, the Milton Keynes Medley was included on the LP of "extras" with the second box of vinyl albums earlier in the year. |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 2, 2017 13:52:00 GMT
I wouldn't have thought who "watches" them was of any consequence. It's who BUYS them that counts. Or have I completely missed the point? Ta for the info, Quoincidence.  Incidentally, as well as that CD compilation just before last Christmas, the Milton Keynes Medley was included on the LP of "extras" with the second box of vinyl albums earlier in the year. They could have easily made a bigger release of the Birmingham Gig(s). Both nights at the NEC were recorded audibly and visually, but only one of the two has ever been released. The Live At The BBC DVD had a mixture of both nights footage in certain areas. As for a full DVD release, I'm not entirely sure where the whole "nobody tends to watch them" came from, but they're planning some sort of "Live" compilation dvd if anything does ever come of it. It might purely be down to the fact that some of the old tapes of Live gigs were never transferred to a digital platform (as far as I'm aware), so who knows how degraded they could be... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 14:00:01 GMT
I wouldn't have thought who "watches" them was of any consequence. It's who BUYS them that counts. Or have I completely missed the point? Ta for the info, Quoincidence. Incidentally, as well as that CD compilation just before last Christmas, the Milton Keynes Medley was included on the LP of "extras" with the second box of vinyl albums earlier in the year. They could have easily made a bigger release of the Birmingham Gig(s). Both nights at the NEC were recorded audibly and visually, but only one of the two has ever been released. The Live At The BBC DVD had a mixture of both nights footage in certain areas. As for a full DVD release, I'm not entirely sure where the whole "nobody tends to watch them" came from, but they're planning some sort of "Live" compilation dvd if anything does ever come of it. It might purely be down to the fact that some of the old tapes of Live gigs were never transferred to a digital platform (as far as I'm aware), so who knows how degraded they could be... BOTH NEC gigs , both very good sound, have been available on bootleg for a long time |
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Post by mortified on Nov 2, 2017 14:26:36 GMT
The whole DVD thing is a disappearing medium; I get that and I wouldn't dispute it. Music DVD's have been dwindling rapidly for a few years now and from an entire department, say, 10 years ago in HMV, the last I looked there were a couple of small shelves. Whether that's down to lack of supply, lack of demand or a combination of both, I have no idea. You Tube and numerous other streaming/download facilities have now gained momentum, especially with the advent of smart TV's. But there is an older market that shouldn't really be ignored. In other words, us lot from the video age A live DVD compilation is a half decent idea but not if it's like an audio compilation and simply gives us material we already have in abundance. Just have to see if or when but I fear the worst on that one. Isn't it funny how cynical even the most enthusiastic Quo fans have become?  Imagine a box set of remastered DVD's containing the NEC (both 1982 and 1989), Milton Keynes, Madrid and Stafford Bingley Hall? I appreciate that there were never full gigs for those last two available but it'd still have me salivating. But keeping me going in Kleenex isn't the job of Quo's management or music company. And don't be rude. You know what I mean. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 14:33:52 GMT
The whole DVD thing is a disappearing medium; I get that and I wouldn't dispute it. Music DVD's have been dwindling rapidly for a few years now and from an entire department, say, 10 years ago in HMV, the last I looked there were a couple of small shelves. Whether that's down to lack of supply, lack of demand or a combination of both, I have no idea. You Tube and numerous other streaming/download facilities have now gained momentum, especially with the advent of smart TV's. But there is an older market that shouldn't really be ignored. In other words, us lot from the video age A live DVD compilation is a half decent idea but not if it's like an audio compilation and simply gives us material we already have in abundance. Just have to see if or when but I fear the worst on that one. Isn't it funny how cynical even the most enthusiastic Quo fans have become? Imagine a box set of remastered DVD's containing the NEC (both 1982 and 1989), Milton Keynes, Madrid and Stafford Bingley Hall? I appreciate that there were never full gigs for those last two available but it'd still have me salivating. But keeping me going in Kleenex isn't the job of Quo's management or music company. And don't be rude. You know what I mean. I don't think DVD is a disappearing medium at all, if one of the (many) bands/artists I follow bring out a DVD I buy it, as its always gonna be far better quality than anything that goes up on Youtube,or any other internet media plus you usually get extra's. If you are not bothered by quality, then yeah Youtube will do, if you do want the best quality you will never better an official DVD |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 2, 2017 21:22:36 GMT
The whole DVD thing is a disappearing medium; I get that and I wouldn't dispute it. Music DVD's have been dwindling rapidly for a few years now and from an entire department, say, 10 years ago in HMV, the last I looked there were a couple of small shelves. Whether that's down to lack of supply, lack of demand or a combination of both, I have no idea. You Tube and numerous other streaming/download facilities have now gained momentum, especially with the advent of smart TV's. But there is an older market that shouldn't really be ignored. In other words, us lot from the video age A live DVD compilation is a half decent idea but not if it's like an audio compilation and simply gives us material we already have in abundance. Just have to see if or when but I fear the worst on that one. Isn't it funny how cynical even the most enthusiastic Quo fans have become? Imagine a box set of remastered DVD's containing the NEC (both 1982 and 1989), Milton Keynes, Madrid and Stafford Bingley Hall? I appreciate that there were never full gigs for those last two available but it'd still have me salivating. But keeping me going in Kleenex isn't the job of Quo's management or music company. And don't be rude. You know what I mean. The thing is a lot of the time people purposely upload in bad qualities to youtube as it somehow helps the video skip the copyright detection. I can upload footage from the Knebworth '90 gig as long as it's of low quality, whereas if I try in HD it takes it down instantly. I think it's down to the amount it would cost to remaster it, and a cost going towards the BBC as they own the rights? the first night at the Birmingham NEC in 1982 was recorded as a "test run" for the Prince Charles gig... and I'm guessing it was broadcast LIVE to tv on the night for a certain amount of the concert. There's this thing with gig footage and remastering... if it was broadcast live to tv they probably used tape as opposed to film as it was easier to broadcast from those cameras... and remastering tape would mean having to scan in the reels at a higher quality or they wont look that much better. There's also the Dortmund 1982 gig that we've still not seen released in full yet as well... and there's the LIVE recording from the Glasgow Apollo As for the Birmingham 1989 gig, we'll probably see that at some point in "full". I say that because I don't think we'll ever see Rain from that gig cause something happened mid way through... either a power failure or from what I've heard, the camera crane caught a set of Marshall amps and knocked them over. |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 2, 2017 21:24:04 GMT
They could have easily made a bigger release of the Birmingham Gig(s). Both nights at the NEC were recorded audibly and visually, but only one of the two has ever been released. The Live At The BBC DVD had a mixture of both nights footage in certain areas. As for a full DVD release, I'm not entirely sure where the whole "nobody tends to watch them" came from, but they're planning some sort of "Live" compilation dvd if anything does ever come of it. It might purely be down to the fact that some of the old tapes of Live gigs were never transferred to a digital platform (as far as I'm aware), so who knows how degraded they could be... BOTH NEC gigs , both very good sound, have been available on bootleg for a long time Only ever had the 2nd night (Charlie Gig), Tommy Vances; Friday Rock Show Broadcast from January 1983... with the inclusion of 'Hold You Back' from the night before. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2017 11:16:35 GMT
BOTH NEC gigs , both very good sound, have been available on bootleg for a long time Only ever had the 2nd night (Charlie Gig), Tommy Vances; Friday Rock Show Broadcast from January 1983... with the inclusion of 'Hold You Back' from the night before. The 1st night was on traders lists for a very long time, if you weren't trading you probably wasn't aware,,I think my copy is rated 4+, which in bootleg terms means it sounds fairly good |
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Post by snakelady on Nov 4, 2017 7:47:18 GMT
The whole DVD thing is a disappearing medium; I get that and I wouldn't dispute it. Music DVD's have been dwindling rapidly for a few years now and from an entire department, say, 10 years ago in HMV, the last I looked there were a couple of small shelves. Whether that's down to lack of supply, lack of demand or a combination of both, I have no idea. You Tube and numerous other streaming/download facilities have now gained momentum, especially with the advent of smart TV's. But there is an older market that shouldn't really be ignored. In other words, us lot from the video age A live DVD compilation is a half decent idea but not if it's like an audio compilation and simply gives us material we already have in abundance. Just have to see if or when but I fear the worst on that one. Isn't it funny how cynical even the most enthusiastic Quo fans have become? Imagine a box set of remastered DVD's containing the NEC (both 1982 and 1989), Milton Keynes, Madrid and Stafford Bingley Hall? I appreciate that there were never full gigs for those last two available but it'd still have me salivating. But keeping me going in Kleenex isn't the job of Quo's management or music company. And don't be rude. You know what I mean. I don't think DVD is a disappearing medium at all, if one of the (many) bands/artists I follow bring out a DVD I buy it, as its always gonna be far better quality than anything that goes up on Youtube,or any other internet media plus you usually get extra's. If you are not bothered by quality, then yeah Youtube will do, if you do want the best quality you will never better an official DVD Same with me. I even tend to rather watch a gig video than listen to the live CD, as it simply provides more of the experience. And videos tend to easily provide Quo with No.1 chart successes. CD might make the top 10, but official videos usually reach top spot. So IMVHO they still make sense from a commercial POV. Yep, today's kids may not be interested in physical mediums any longer, but our generation hasn't stopped buying them. That choice mentioned by Billy would be rather interesting. Basically all gigs that provide us with songs that have only been in the live set for a short while would be very welcome. What I don't need is yet another version of Caroline or WYW .. :hlwn4: |
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Post by mortified on Nov 4, 2017 8:14:10 GMT
I don't think DVD is a disappearing medium at all, if one of the (many) bands/artists I follow bring out a DVD I buy it, as its always gonna be far better quality than anything that goes up on Youtube,or any other internet media plus you usually get extra's. If you are not bothered by quality, then yeah Youtube will do, if you do want the best quality you will never better an official DVD ....today's kids may not be interested in physical mediums any longer, but our generation hasn't stopped buying them. That choice mentioned by Billy would be rather interesting. Basically all gigs that provide us with songs that have only been in the live set for a short while would be very welcome. What I don't need is yet another version of Caroline or WYW ..  Which is sort of the point I was trying to make. A diminishing market that hasn't quite gone altogether. But is well on it's way. If DVD's are expensive to put together - and according to Quoincidence they can be - then companies are not going to go to the expense of doing it to satisfy an ageing and gradually disappearing market. Of course they're still out there and we still get them but not in nearly the same numbers we did even say 10 years ago. I also like to watch DVD's because the quality is generally good. But hoping for rare footage from a bygone age might be a pipedream. The Stones have been bringing them out for a few years now - dozens of them - but they're a multi-billion dollar industry. They can afford the hit. |
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Post by Rick Roper on Nov 4, 2017 21:40:09 GMT
Very interesting discussion!
Quoincidence, if you DO get to committing EOTR to DVD, please put me down for a copy! I love watching my home DVD-copied Channel 5 VHS taps, but the colour bleed was always pretty horrendous. A mate of mine used to have the original releases - I'll tap him up and see if he's still got them after 33 years! If I can acquire them I'm more than happy to lend them for copying to DVD...
I've personally always found the warehouse fire story a bit too "convenient" since it was first mentioned... I think it fell into Quo and their management's "can't be arsed" category. Hopefully one day it will be found, just like the Rockin' All Over The World tapes...
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Post by mortified on Nov 5, 2017 9:18:51 GMT
The warehouse fire story might have been a ruse to keep things quiet. The band, well Rick and Francis, always said they hated the Milton Keynes footage. The fans disagreed and thought it was brilliant. Such is life. But several proposed releases or projects have been stopped in their tracks for one reason or another ( Swedish Radio Sessions anyone?) and it's maybe been to help maintain and not deflect from the 'brand' that Quo became from around the 90's onwards. Then again, it might just have been because of Alan which I imagine is no longer an issue. All speculation on my part. And probably all bollox |
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Post by Quoincidence on Nov 5, 2017 21:06:59 GMT
The warehouse fire story might have been a ruse to keep things quiet. The band, well Rick and Francis, always said they hated the Milton Keynes footage. The fans disagreed and thought it was brilliant. Such is life. But several proposed releases or projects have been stopped in their tracks for one reason or another ( Swedish Radio Sessions anyone?) and it's maybe been to help maintain and not deflect from the 'brand' that Quo became from around the 90's onwards. Then again, it might just have been because of Alan which I imagine is no longer an issue. All speculation on my part. And probably all bollox The Stockholm gig was meant to be released in the early 2000's but was pulled cause there was still no agreement between Alan and Rossi/Management... That was dealt with in 2008/09. I never believed the Warehouse story for a minute when I came out during the Hello Quo QnA session with Alan Parker. The 'Knebworth 90' gig was meant to be released at one point as well which was then withdrawn, which I don't understand why... There was artwork made for the front cover  And I think around 2005/06 is when they started to transfer all the master tapes to a digital format. The thing that makes me say this is the releases we got around this time / snippets of gigs; Doing Their Thing Dortmund 1982 Music Promos Forty Five Hundred Times - N.E.C 1982 (Meaning the full gig was transferred to a digital format) Birmingham N.E.C 1989 footage (XS All Areas) Wembley 1974 Wembley 1996 Shepherds Bush 2000 And at one point Quo started uploading Milton Keynes footage to their Youtube Channel. Plenty of things to be release, but theyre just hanging on to them. |
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