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Post by snakelady on Aug 30, 2017 7:18:13 GMT
.. are nearly over now. Last one will take place in Rottenburg tomorrow. So that'll be the LNOTE gigs finished, for Europe at least .. What I did notice is, that we've got as near as no gig reports from any of them. Members from here either didn't go or didn't write a report. We had a lot less of these after the sad loss of Michael, but still, I can't help but think this has been an unusually quiet summer. Why is that ? The band has been carrying on as usual - on the outside. On the inside things must've changed, but we'd not hear about that. Basically we heard as near as nothing from the Quo camp: - Ritchie was introduced as Rick's permanent replacement - the LNOTE tour was prolonged to further places and countries (stretching it just a little ..) interspersed with a handful of acoustic gigs - a memorial for Rick was announced, but nothing more was ever heard about it - the British tour was turned from acoustic to electric in a short note on the Quo homepage and the thankless task to explain in a few interviews was left to Francis. Did I forget anything ? I think that's all. Not a lot exactly and what there has been, has been handled less than convincing. What I really do wonder is what's going to happen once 2017 is over ?! Will there still be a band called Status Quo, do any plans for next year exist at all ? After all we've learned that gigs are booked months or more in advance, same goes for studio time (if you're not using one of your own conveniently) .. Do they know themselves or are they going to make their decision dependent on the autumn/winter tours. And if attendance figures are low - will they fight for their audience and standing and return with something fresh and new - or will they simply give up ? So many questions and options and as near as no answers ..
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Post by mortified on Aug 30, 2017 7:38:13 GMT
We don't really have the answers to any of that. And we won't be given them either. We'll be drip fed what they deem fit for us to know. But this is just a band, not a government conspiracy so I suppose we shouldn't really expect too much.
We can speculate of course. Mostly we'd be wrong I imagine. Zurich remains pencilled in for next year, although very late by Zurich standards. It will no doubt precede the usual winter tours of the UK and Germany. If this winter goes OK - and I mean in terms of attendances - then very little will change. To be fair, why should it? If attendances are well down, then they might go for a winter tour next year anyway because many people will have missed a year. Or that might be their thinking. Who knows?
Rick's health scare and then his ultimate demise threw the whole 'organisation' into a state of uncertainty and I think that probably remains the case. But I agree; it has been unusually quiet both in terms of gig reports and announcements from the camp. That might simply mean that those who frequented message boards no longer do or they've stopped going. But we are such a small community (i.e. message board forums) that it won't have made a blind bit of difference to anything. Quo probably went down a storm at the "Rewind" gigs. I have no idea.
Personally I'll be keeping an eye on Rhino's Revenge to see if any impromptu gigs are fitted in during what is quite a lengthy gap for Quo before they head to the Southern Hemisphere.
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Post by smokie on Aug 30, 2017 8:13:15 GMT
I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised if Zurich is cancelled and the end of the active touring band is imminent. When the LNOTE was announced, it was stated then that no more electric tours would be booked and the only electric appearances would be festivals. I think there's a real chance of that happening now.
Personally, I haven't seen the band since the guy from Dr Feelgood (Wilko?) was the support. I've not lost interest in the band but I think I have as far as seeing them live goes and everyone can probably guess as to why that is.
Rhino has already said that there's a fair bit of downtime next year and that may well be used for solo projects. If we think it's quiet just now, perhaps it's just going to get quieter?
As much as I'd like to hear something new from the band, I realise that is unlikely but I do look forward to hearing the solo album from Francis and whoever else comes up with anything new.
Perhaps next year might give them an opportunity to go back to Mexico/South America? It's been a feast for us here but a positive famine for them there in regards to live shows but as with everything else, it will come down to demand and how financially worthwhile it will be for the band.
I'm only too well aware that I'm usually wrong when it comes to music, football, politics etc so it will be of no surprise to me if I am also wrong about this
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Post by mortified on Aug 30, 2017 13:14:15 GMT
When the LNOTE was announced, it was stated then that no more electric tours would be booked and the only electric appearances would be festivals. I think there's a real chance of that happening now.
There is some sense in that. The only thing is, they keep moving the goalposts! I'm beginning to think that anything could happen. From touring as much as they ever did to packing it in altogether. After these past 8 or 9 months, I wouldn't be surprised no matter what they do. Or don't. I just don't want to get past caring. But its somehow beginning to feel like that.
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Post by craydarr on Aug 30, 2017 17:27:47 GMT
I think it would be good for the band to concentrate on the festivals as that would leave more time for solo projects and gigs from band members.
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Post by snakelady on Aug 31, 2017 7:52:06 GMT
There is some sense in that. The only thing is, they keep moving the goalposts! I'm beginning to think that anything could happen. From touring as much as they ever did to packing it in altogether. After these past 8 or 9 months, I wouldn't be surprised no matter what they do. Or don't. I just don't want to get past caring. But its somehow beginning to feel like that.Sad but true. quocupsncafe.proboards.com/thread/5753/band-played-onYou made me read through that thread again - lots of great contributions And it made me realise that I've said all I've got to say in there and there isn't much left to add .. Maybe I should simply copy and paste that post into new threads .. ?
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Post by Crapmodem on Aug 31, 2017 8:55:36 GMT
First, I think it is fair to point out that this board doesn't have a massive membership and, of the members it does have, the vast majority (myself included) are fairly inactive.
Second, you have to assume that people who spend time joining and following a message board are predominantly going to be 'committed', 'devoted', 'hardcore', whatever, rather than 'casual'. I believe the number of people in that category who still care has recently reduced.
Reasons? The passing of Mr Parfitt for sure. The 'last chance to see the electric show' that turned out to be another commitment like 'the FF will only tour in 2013 and that's your lot' and 'the special event in memory of Rick will be announced in the Spring' and so many others.
Having followed the band since 1973 and attended 349 concerts, I've had it.
Status Quo (and yes, it IS still Status Quo even if you don't want to accept that) are touring and, by most accounts, putting on great shows. Do I want to go to see them? Nope. Am I losing sleep over this? Nope. Did I consider going to any of the Summer 2017 gigs? Nope.
Yesterday, someone asked me if Crappytravel would arrange a trip to see Status Quo in Zürich in 2018. Nope. If FTMO... arranges a trip, would I be interested in joining it? Nope.
I know for a fact that my feelings are shared by many.
Sad but true.
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Post by mortified on Sept 1, 2017 5:55:19 GMT
....you have to assume that people who spend time joining and following a message board are predominantly going to be 'committed', 'devoted', 'hardcore', whatever, rather than 'casual'. I believe the number of people in that category who still care has recently reduced.
My thoughts exactly. And the band and their management are well aware of that so we are not a consideration. To be honest, I've never believed anything else. Even during the heady days of message board seismic activity
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Post by snakelady on Sept 1, 2017 7:25:57 GMT
....you have to assume that people who spend time joining and following a message board are predominantly going to be 'committed', 'devoted', 'hardcore', whatever, rather than 'casual'. I believe the number of people in that category who still care has recently reduced.
My thoughts exactly. And the band and their management are well aware of that so we are not a consideration. To be honest, I've never believed anything else. Even during the heady days of message board seismic activity They did listen to us once - remember The Oriental ? Well, we were well over 45K members on the official mb at the end and just about 1K taken both current mbs together. So we are less than a splinter group these days -dinosaurs maybe, as we refuse to move on to fb . So yep, they can't be expected to even read, let alone react, as much as we may hope for it occasionally. It's more the general attitude towards the longterm loyal fans that gets to me sometimes. Taken and used happily when the occasion arises (Roundhouse) and discarded quickly again afterwards. Or at least not a second thought wasted on who had been there, sang along every song and made it a special night - and made the recording such a success for it. Yes, the studio album had an inspired choice of songs plus err.. eye-catching sleeve, but it was the gig that really sold it. Somehow you can't help but feel these fans, we, are taken for granted, that we're expected to show up for the regular tours anyway, even if less than a handful of songs are included we may still like. This complete and utter nothing-ness, while it would be so easy to at least give us something, is what gets to me - and kept me away this summer. Thank god it'll be an acoustic tour including an exciting set for us this winter ! I'll be watching with interest what's going to happen in the UK ..
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Post by rosi on Sept 3, 2017 20:17:09 GMT
.. are nearly over now. Last one will take place in Rottenburg tomorrow. So that'll be the LNOTE gigs finished, for Europe at least .. What I did notice is, that we've got as near as no gig reports from any of them. Members from here either didn't go or didn't write a report. We had a lot less of these after the sad loss of Michael, but still, I can't help but think this has been an unusually quiet summer. Why is that ? The band has been carrying on as usual - on the outside. On the inside things must've changed, but we'd not hear about that. Basically we heard as near as nothing from the Quo camp: - Ritchie was introduced as Rick's permanent replacement - the LNOTE tour was prolonged to further places and countries (stretching it just a little ..) interspersed with a handful of acoustic gigs - a memorial for Rick was announced, but nothing more was ever heard about it - the British tour was turned from acoustic to electric in a short note on the Quo homepage and the thankless task to explain in a few interviews was left to Francis. Did I forget anything ? I think that's all. Not a lot exactly and what there has been, has been handled less than convincing. What I really do wonder is what's going to happen once 2017 is over ?! Will there still be a band called Status Quo, do any plans for next year exist at all ? After all we've learned that gigs are booked months or more in advance, same goes for studio time (if you're not using one of your own conveniently) .. Do they know themselves or are they going to make their decision dependent on the autumn/winter tours. And if attendance figures are low - will they fight for their audience and standing and return with something fresh and new - or will they simply give up ? So many questions and options and as near as no answers .. I am guilty.... I did not write many gig reports this summer.... only the one for the Royal Albert Hall. I also went to Loreley and of course to Suikerrock Tienen in July. Maybe I can write a report if someone is still interested? It is not that I didn't like the concerts, far from that .... just been too busy with all kind of things.... I don't know what 2018 will bring either. I can't help it but I have the impression that Francis is full of energy again to perform with Quo. Ritchie added a new vibe to the band and it made them more.... energetic..... I guess we just have to wait and see what the future will bring. For them changing the acoustic English tour into an electric one: it made the front row (VIP) tickets for London sell out.... but it seems that for all the other concerts VIP tickets are still available. Making it another LNOTE tour in the UK.... It is possible this will be the last full electric tour, unless it is a success (read: profitable). I had my ticket booked from the moment they became available as acoustic concerts ..... I would have loved to see them acoustic again in the UK, but electric will do just fine. But to be completely honest: I will see them acoustic again in mainland Europe. Hopefully it won't be too hard for the band to change from electric to acoustic to electric again. It might be that future plans will depend on how the last 3 months of this year will proceed in terms of ticket sales and response overall.... We can only hope that 2018 will bring more Quo. I still hope that Francis will release his solo album.... and hopefully tours it (would be great to see him again in Belgium and Holland....).
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Post by smokie on Sept 6, 2017 8:13:33 GMT
Hi rosi,
If you have the time, I'd like to read reports of the festivals that you attended over the summer.
They don't need to be too in depth, just a general description of how the band were received, how you thought they played, if you enjoyed it or not etc
No pressure, just if you can find the time, myself and probably a few others would enjoy reading your thoughts.
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Post by rosi on Sept 10, 2017 16:14:32 GMT
Hi rosi ,
If you have the time, I'd like to read reports of the festivals that you attended over the summer.
They don't need to be too in depth, just a general description of how the band were received, how you thought they played, if you enjoyed it or not etc
No pressure, just if you can find the time, myself and probably a few others would enjoy reading your thoughts. Hi smokie, Loreley is up.... hope you - and others - enjoy it.
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