lp72
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Post by lp72 on May 6, 2017 19:38:24 GMT
I have seen some videos now from their nordic tour, and it's sad that it's not that number in audience that I would prefer (read: not much, in Sweden anyaway)... But this clip is a really good mix about their setup anyway and I like what I see, also hear of course.. They rock unleess who claps... And I like that.
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Post by snakelady on May 7, 2017 8:47:37 GMT
How do you know about numbers - has anybody actually been to any of the gigs or is it all hearsay ? This Eva put a lot of work into this, obviously. Looks good - I really like the coloured lights. Now all that's missing is the artificial fog .. . The band does sound good too, it's only that I don't want to hear most of these songs again, ever, the set list simply bores me to death.
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Post by lp72 on May 14, 2017 0:49:21 GMT
How do you know about numbers - has anybody actually been to any of the gigs or is it all hearsay ? This Eva put a lot of work into this, obviously. Looks good - I really like the coloured lights. Now all that's missing is the artificial fog .. . The band does sound good too, it's only that I don't want to hear most of these songs again, ever, the set list simply bores me to death. Yes, I had a co-worker from my job at the gig in Fryshuset (sunday in sweden) and he told e that it wasn't more thean a 1000-1500 in the audience... But the band delivered like usual of course. I also read the number from saturday in Gothenburg, it was never up to 2000 there... Sad. Also, in both gigs at Liseberg, Gothenburg in 2015 and Gröna Lund, Stockholm in 2016, it was well arond 20,000 pepole in the audience... (open parks), so just mabye more thant over 1,500 pepole could be there for a inside gig, you think? I blame the price..
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Post by lp72 on May 14, 2017 0:54:34 GMT
The drone, high expectations. And then the band walking onstage, and then... Nothing. Well, to be fair, the music does sound good and Richie does play the intro to Caroline really well. They all seem to enjoy themselves tremendously and appear to be on good form. I'm really happy for the band and fans alike to be enjoying the electric shows so much again. It's just not for me anymore. The second show since Christmas... said twice... a bit.. ahh...ahh... What?! I feel he could, no, he should have mentioned Rick at that point. But better not go there again. Let's not mention CUOY either or... Francis' "dew drop" or whatever. Audience numbers... well, the venues are quite small, with a capacity of around 1,500 to 2,300 respectively, depending if it's seated or standing. They're that far up north, so it's really not the band's fault that they had to play to smaller crowds. Things will change once they play down south again... I hope all goes well for them. What are you missing then, if it's "and then... Nothing"..? Of course no-one can replace Rick as he was and played, but what do you think? (Please, most of them are over 60 years old!) It seems that you are just disappointed and it has not really much with the music or performance to do...
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Post by snakelady on May 15, 2017 7:12:46 GMT
How do you know about numbers - has anybody actually been to any of the gigs or is it all hearsay ? This Eva put a lot of work into this, obviously. Looks good - I really like the coloured lights. Now all that's missing is the artificial fog .. . The band does sound good too, it's only that I don't want to hear most of these songs again, ever, the set list simply bores me to death. Yes, I had a co-worker from my job at the gig in Fryshuset (sunday in sweden) and he told e that it wasn't more thean a 1000-1500 in the audience... But the band delivered like usual of course. I also read the number from saturday in Gothenburg, it was never up to 2000 there... Sad. Also, in both gigs at Liseberg, Gothenburg in 2015 and Gröna Lund, Stockholm in 2016, it was well arond 20,000 pepole in the audience... (open parks), so just mabye more thant over 1,500 pepole could be there for a inside gig, you think? I blame the price.. Ah, that's a shame then. Guess there's not much the band can do about ticket prices .. Maybe (and here we're back to a 'favourite' topic of mine ) at the summer festivals a lot of people attend who aren't Quo fans as such, so would be happy about the standard hits set, while during regular tours you only get those who actually take an interest in the band, which will be less to start with. Many of them will still be in shock over Rick's passing and when in doubt, the same boring set list, same as the ticket prices will contribute to swing opinions against attending IMO. I know the set list is what keeps me from buying tickets for a summer gig .. What I really do wonder is, if the band is actually aware of these two important reasons ? They may not be able to do much about ticket prices, but there's a lot they could do to make the set attractive. When Francis solo tour was on sale here, ticket prices were more than double of what we had paid for Edinburgh - and up to 4x as much as what other acts at the same venue would cost - hence way too high, and certainly the main reason why they sold rather poorly. Francis though at the time thought it was down to people not interested in his work outside of Quo. Could be they draw the wrong conclusions again this time ..
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Post by smokie on May 16, 2017 21:51:45 GMT
Only watched "Caroline" and was surprised that it sounded the way that it does.
But and I said this to someone on here in a PM. I had only seen Quo 4 times before they retired, so when they came back in '86, I was happy enough with that and I went to see them in '86. Even although I'd only seen Alan play live that number of times, I'd grown up watching him on TV, listening to him on record, seeing his picture on album covers etc and it took me a while (a few tours) to get used to the fact that he was away and that Rhino was now in his place (no slight against Rhino). When seeing the "new" band I felt "this doesn't look right" but I got used to it.
I feel EXACTLY the same now when I view footage from the recent concerts. Thing is, I don't want to get used to seeing them with Rick not being there. Not now. Not ever.
And as for the setlist........
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Post by snakelady on May 17, 2017 6:21:35 GMT
I doubt we'll ever get used to seeing a Quo without Rick up there on stage, but from experience from the last winter tour I know it can still be an enjoyable gig. The finality of it all was still missing then. That's a big difference. On the other hand do Rhino and Andy deserve to lose their jobs and source of income, not to mention Francis, who was there years before Rick already ?
Guess that's something everybody has to decide for themselves ..
I didn't mind Alan not being there and I can understand why after more than two decades someone wouldn't want to work with another guy any longer, happens every day. This is something else entirely though. Maybe it would've been different if they hadn't continued touring more or less straight away, if they had given it a year say to get used to the thought ? Main problem with that probably has been, that it already was announced and had been taken place as the last tour, so from that POV an 'interruption' for such a long time span wouldn't have exactly been credible.
No simple or easy solutions here and I doubt the band themselves know what else they could/should have done or not ..
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Post by smokie on May 17, 2017 11:50:30 GMT
I understand and appreciate the argument as to why should others lose their livelihood just because one person is no longer there and perhaps the fact that all of the others in the band appear happy to continue tells another story?
It's probably just me that's struggling to come to terms with all of this. That doesn't "look" like Quo anymore as I think Rick was such a vital cog in the live electric show.
Would it be outrageous to suggest that perhaps I wouldn't miss Rick so much if I went to Aquostic Quo instead? I'm not saying that he wouldn't be missed because of course he would but perhaps not so much? The whole profile of the Aquostic show is lower than that of an electric one (I think) and I don't think any member stands out so much in that environment as to that of the live electric one.
I'll say it before anyone else does, I'm probably waffling here
On to matters that are much more important and relevant. How am I doing in the Frog Count thing?
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Post by smokie on May 17, 2017 21:39:32 GMT
Thank you @inna
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Post by snakelady on May 18, 2017 8:27:22 GMT
Guess if you have a favourite member, as many of us have, you lose that close connection to the band, when you lose that member .. And yes, it's not a conscious decision, it is about feelings.
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Post by smokie on May 18, 2017 9:56:59 GMT
Just to emphasis that for me, as for all on here, Quo has always been about the music. The sum total of the members resulted in music that I liked and still do like. Just wanted to state that in case the next bit makes me sound like a pre pubescent school girl!!
Francis was one of my heroes growing up and he was/is my favourite member of the band. Rick a very close second. The local record shop where I bought all my records, once had sew on patches of the band, Francis, Rick, Alan and John. I only bought the Francis one and I still have it somewhere.
I was watching an old Top Of The Pops on Saturday night from 1983 and A Mess of Blues came on. Pete, Andy, Francis and Rick. That's probably it for me, Francis and Rick. Bread and butter. Salt and vinegar. Fish and chips. Francis and Rick.
Not sure if I can have one without the other is what I'm trying to say I suppose. This is probably full of contradictions, I don't know.
I know, more waffling. I'll get back to work.
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