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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Apr 26, 2017 16:10:45 GMT
I think, in case there is any misunderstanding, I don't believe we have a divine right to great seats just because we're in the fan club. We don't have a divine right to any seat. But my point is that it isn't a level playing field. You're actually defeated in your endeavours before you even start. The ticket you might hope to get just isn't available to you. And there is no clear indication of that at any time from anyone. Its all done behind the scenes and very underhand. Someone somewhere isn't proud of it but will take the money anyway. See what I mean? This isn't just the introduction of VIP tickets, which is bad enough but at least its crystal clear. This is collusion between the ticket agencies and other parties to keep back certain seats. Which parties though? I didn't harbour any divine right to secure the best seat either but all I wanted, as you say, is the same chance/opportunity as everyone else. if I didn't get the front row, then that was just too bad. I assumed that a fellow FTMO member was luckier/quicker than I was but it's not like that anymore.
Nothing against Rhino as I think he's a decent bloke but I think there's "VIP tickets" available for dates on his tour and with the size of venues I'm surprised about that.
I wasn't aware of Quo doing "meet and greets" or "VIP packages" until the reunion and ever since then, it looks like they are making up for lost time.
Up until a few a hours ago, I'd never heard of Viagogo, so out of all this, I've learned something new today. Won't ever use them though
The 'meet and greets' on the reunion tour were good value and nothing like all this VIP rubbish nowadays.
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Post by aitchfrossi on Apr 26, 2017 20:20:44 GMT
am I wrong in thinking as a member we should have had first pickings? We did get first pickings. But only from a very select number of seats. And very far from the best ones they could offer. My point is I didn't get flyer for early chance at tickets as an ftmo member...I usually do and was always happy with choice...I have missed out this time but why...my membership is up to date
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Post by smokie on Apr 26, 2017 20:54:06 GMT
aitchfrossi, I recently had a problem with my membership in that I was a member but I never received an edition of the magazine. I emailed FTMO/Yvonne and she was brilliant. She sorted everything out, she posted another one out, I received that one OK and there hasn't been any problems since. I realise that this won't help you with the pre sale of tickets but I'd recommend that you get in touch via email. Good luck
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Post by smokie on Apr 26, 2017 21:06:39 GMT
Thanks for confirming that @inna.
That just confirms my point really. What used to be a casual kind of thing is now a money making opportunity. No occasion to make money should be missed. I suppose it could be said that the fan is getting a wonderful experience which, in a way, I suppose that they are.
I don't think I'm being mean, I'm not sure if it's value for money, that's all.
But if that's your type of thing, go for it and enjoy.
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Post by aitchfrossi on Apr 27, 2017 12:59:10 GMT
Thanks...confirmed my membership just after Rick passed away as I wanted to be sure of knowing if a memorial show would go ahead but will check again x
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 13:18:14 GMT
ive just said on the other side (they have a similar thread) that I miss the good old days when you went to ur local venue and joined the Q to get ur tickets. I always got there at least an hour before the box office opened so that I could get front row (proud to be one of the original front row hags ) Box office you say - what's one of those then?
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Post by kursaal75 on Apr 27, 2017 16:42:56 GMT
That takes me back, queuing outside the Hammersmith Odeon box office, in a long queue, waiting to get my hands on some decent tickets.
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Post by snakelady on Apr 28, 2017 5:33:05 GMT
That takes me back, queuing outside the Hammersmith Odeon box office, in a long queue, waiting to get my hands on some decent tickets. Were your venues seated and seats numbered even back in the 70s ?? Here we used to buy our (unnumbered) tickets from kiosks or some shops (tobacconist/.. and no queueing involved. Even more comfortable these days - a few clicks on my computer screen and I've got decent tickets: got second row for the seated acoustic gig in Dec.
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Post by mortified on Apr 28, 2017 5:41:26 GMT
That takes me back, queuing outside the Hammersmith Odeon box office, in a long queue, waiting to get my hands on some decent tickets. Were your venues seated and seats numbered even back in the 70s ?? Pretty much. Even Glasgow Apollo was all seated. I dare say some venues were standing (like Bridlington for example) but the band tended to play theatres and cinemas so the vast majority of gigs I've been to in the UK have been all seated.
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Post by snakelady on Apr 28, 2017 5:49:12 GMT
Were your venues seated and seats numbered even back in the 70s ?? Pretty much. Even Glasgow Apollo was all seated. I dare say some venues were standing (like Bridlington for example) but the band tended to play theatres and cinemas so the vast majority of gigs I've been to in the UK have been all seated. In that case I don't quite get this complaining about seated gigs in recent years and it killing the atmosphere a.s.o. ? Everybody should be used to it if it's always been like that. Here it's different. When a few years ago Mannheim suddenly was all seated, people didn't know how to behave - were they allowed to stand up, blocking other people's views .. ? I'm sure it'll be the same at the acoustic gig and suspect the audience will remain seated . Guess that goes for your Barcelona gig too ..
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Post by mortified on Apr 28, 2017 8:41:23 GMT
Right, I'm off on one again. So stick your fingers in your ears. I've just had a look at tickets in the general public sale and I've been offered better seats than the ones that I got through the fan club pre-sale. I mean, what is the point of giving us the opportunity to get tickets earlier if they're worse than those offered to non fan-club members 4 days later? This effectively means that it is actually detrimental to us to go through the fan club pre-sale!! Now I appreciate that this isn't Yvonne's fault; she doesn't allocate the tickets. But she will probably take real stick for this and unfortunately she is at the coal face. Frankly, she'd be as well not getting flyers printed and saving the money because they're actually putting FTMO members at a disadvantage. That is plainly ridiculous.
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Post by kursaal75 on Apr 28, 2017 8:53:59 GMT
When I went to the first Aquostic concert at the Roundhouse, I thought, yeah, it was good but I won't go again, but when the Royal Albert Hall 2015 tickets came avalible, I went on line and was offered a ticket way up in the gods, so I didn't bother. 2 weeks later, out of curiosity, I looked again and was offered a seat 7 rows from the stage, right in front of Rossi's mic stand, which I snapped up the ticket for an enjoyable evening, except for a couple next to me, all dressed up, enjoying a night at the theater, with a box of chocolate's!!
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Post by johns on Apr 28, 2017 10:13:11 GMT
Well not having done an acoustic show so far and having been greatly surprised at how good the electric show at the O2 was in December I've booked my ticket for Reading. I've never been to the Hexagon before so a couple of firsts. Looking forward to it.
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Post by gogs on Apr 28, 2017 10:38:56 GMT
When I went to the first Aquostic concert at the Roundhouse, I thought, yeah, it was good but I won't go again, but when the Royal Albert Hall 2015 tickets came avalible, I went on line and was offered a ticket way up in the gods, so I didn't bother. 2 weeks later, out of curiosity, I looked again and was offered a seat 7 rows from the stage, right in front of Rossi's mic stand, which I snapped up the ticket for an enjoyable evening, except for a couple next to me, all dressed up, enjoying a night at the theater, with a box of chocolate's!! You've got to be joking! The ticket business makes no sense at all, but glad you got a good one. But come, on chocolates at a gig??? As a matter of the merest irrelevance, do you think they brought them along, or bought them there? Mental!
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Post by kursaal75 on Apr 28, 2017 11:04:28 GMT
When I went to the first Aquostic concert at the Roundhouse, I thought, yeah, it was good but I won't go again, but when the Royal Albert Hall 2015 tickets came avalible, I went on line and was offered a ticket way up in the gods, so I didn't bother. 2 weeks later, out of curiosity, I looked again and was offered a seat 7 rows from the stage, right in front of Rossi's mic stand, which I snapped up the ticket for an enjoyable evening, except for a couple next to me, all dressed up, enjoying a night at the theater, with a box of chocolate's!! You've got to be joking! The ticket business makes no sense at all, but glad you got a good one. But come, on chocolates at a gig??? As a matter of the merest irrelevance, do you think they brought them along, or bought them there? Mental! I assume they bought them at the expensive foyer.....They orfered me a chocolate, :oo: you couldn't write it..
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Post by snakelady on Apr 28, 2017 13:26:55 GMT
You've got to be joking! The ticket business makes no sense at all, but glad you got a good one. But come, on chocolates at a gig??? As a matter of the merest irrelevance, do you think they brought them along, or bought them there? Mental! I assume they bought them at the expensive foyer.....They orfered me a chocolate, :oo: you couldn't write it.. Must've been the wrong type as you're still complaining ..
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Post by mortified on Apr 28, 2017 13:47:52 GMT
I got in touch with Yvonne at FTMO. She is as bemused and angry as the rest of us. FTMO had no input into the ticket allocation for the pre-sale and wasn't told which tickets they were; or even that they were restricted at all. She asked me to e-mail Duroc Media - which I did - and they got back pretty quickly and said they'd forwarded my e-mail on to AEG Presents, who seem to be in charge this year. But they "understood the frustration". I wonder if I'll get a straight answer or if it will be rhetoric, platitude and management speak from the Promoter's Handbook I'm sort of making a bit of a nuisance of myself but it seems to have pi$$ed me off more than usual this year. I think I'm becoming a grumpy old man. Which is good coz it was always an ambition
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Post by kursaal75 on Apr 28, 2017 14:09:05 GMT
I assume they bought them at the expensive foyer.....They orfered me a chocolate, :oo: you couldn't write it.. Must've been the wrong type as you're still complaining .. No, I enjoyed the offer of a hazle nut cluster & walnut caremal during Pictures Of Matchstick Men..
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Post by pressbutton on May 8, 2017 20:40:29 GMT
Mortified, I too tried the fan club presale and was offered a seat in row DD at the BIC for nearly £70 with fees. This was on the Tuesday evening as I was at work during the day. So I waited for the general release at the venue, and was offered row F for less than £65! Plus if the gig is cancelled I know from experience that the BIC refund all your no ey. I know this is not Yvonne's fault but I rarely bother with the fan club presale.
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Post by coldwarkid on May 9, 2017 15:13:05 GMT
I didn't harbour any divine right to secure the best seat either but all I wanted, as you say, is the same chance/opportunity as everyone else. if I didn't get the front row, then that was just too bad. I assumed that a fellow FTMO member was luckier/quicker than I was but it's not like that anymore.
Nothing against Rhino as I think he's a decent bloke but I think there's "VIP tickets" available for dates on his tour and with the size of venues I'm surprised about that.
I wasn't aware of Quo doing "meet and greets" or "VIP packages" until the reunion and ever since then, it looks like they are making up for lost time.
Up until a few a hours ago, I'd never heard of Viagogo, so out of all this, I've learned something new today. Won't ever use them though
I wasn't aware of that. But I've just had a look at his site, and there it says VIP packages include admission, a meet & greet, a memento laminate and lanyard, a gift and a voucher offering 25% discount on anything from the merch stand. Well, the last time we saw Rhino's Revenge, you could just stay on and meet him after the show, talk to him over a glass of red wine, have your CDs and T-shirts signed. No VIPs at the time... I suppose the one half bottle was more than enough...
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Post by gogs on May 9, 2017 19:12:34 GMT
That takes me back, queuing outside the Hammersmith Odeon box office, in a long queue, waiting to get my hands on some decent tickets. Were your venues seated and seats numbered even back in the 70s ?? Here we used to buy our (unnumbered) tickets from kiosks or some shops (tobacconist/.. and no queueing involved. Even more comfortable these days - a few clicks on my computer screen and I've got decent tickets: got second row for the seated acoustic gig in Dec. snakelady. You've just reminded me about how I got my first Quo tickets (connect this with my post on the Quo's Back string that @inna started). I went to a travel agent in Wulfen-Barkenberg near the camp I was stationed at. I paid cash - no credit cards accepted - and was simply given a handwritten receipt. On the night we pitched up at a Kiosk outside the Phillipshalle signed vorwerkauf I think, handed in the receipt and got our tickets. The hall itself had about 90% standing but with some unreserved seating at the sides. I don't remember anyone sitting! Very easy. Happy days.
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Post by snakelady on May 10, 2017 6:14:33 GMT
Were your venues seated and seats numbered even back in the 70s ?? Here we used to buy our (unnumbered) tickets from kiosks or some shops (tobacconist/.. and no queueing involved. Even more comfortable these days - a few clicks on my computer screen and I've got decent tickets: got second row for the seated acoustic gig in Dec. snakelady . You've just reminded me about how I got my first Quo tickets (connect this with my post on the Quo's Back string that @inna started). I went to a travel agent in Wulfen-Barkenberg near the camp I was stationed at. I paid cash - no credit cards accepted - and was simply given a handwritten receipt. On the night we pitched up at a Kiosk outside the Phillipshalle signed vorwerkauf I think, handed in the receipt and got our tickets. The hall itself had about 90% standing but with some unreserved seating at the sides. I don't remember anyone sitting! Very easy. Happy days. Exactly - that's how it was - or you even got the tickets right at the shop. You bought them any time prior to the gig and no queuing necessary and later at the venue you simply went to your spot of choice. Whether that were a seat at the side or the huge standing area was down to you entirely and you were always able to first take a seat and walk down later. And yep, as near as nobody went for the seats .. if you weren't teenage girls with an accompanying friend's dad, who thought the standing area looked too scary with all those hairy bikers, hence were forced to sit. Well, at least we had a great view from up there .. You've got it nearly right - it will have been Vorverkauf (presale) .
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Post by blackwidow on May 26, 2017 20:24:13 GMT
It doesn't really matter does it? Whatever this band is, it's not Quo, it's Rossi trading on the name. Just the same as 2 old men calling themselves "Queen". If they had any respect they'd have wrapped this up last December instead of getting some nobody to replace Rick sad carry on regardless. Pathetic, tasteless and shameful.
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Post by mortified on May 27, 2017 9:23:26 GMT
Or The Who without Keith Moon and Jon Entwistle; or the Stones without Brian Jones, Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman; or Deep Purple without Ritchie Blackmore and Jon Lord; or Uriah Heep without everyone except Mick Box! UFO without Schenker? Yes without Jon Anderson, Steve Howe and Rick Wakeman? Take That without Robbie Williams? The list of well established acts carrying on without significant members is probably quite long but these are just off the top of my head. You either go with it or you don't. But don't take it personally
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Post by snakelady on May 28, 2017 7:14:37 GMT
.. or the corner shop without Linda behind the counter. How dare they go on with Chris and not close down ?
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