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Post by aitchfrossi on Apr 14, 2017 13:14:04 GMT
How gutted am I...hardly any uk dates and the odd few there are I can't get to one of them..no winter tour ...not even the memorial for Rick has been announced....got tickets for my grandaughter for York...that was where her first quo gig was at 4years old and has been quoing with us for 15 years now...this will be her first Aquostic experience so has gone full circle in a way...sadly I am out of the country and can't go with her 😥
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Post by LOZ on Apr 21, 2017 20:45:14 GMT
I was just going to post much the same. I went to the official site (rarely do these days) and cant even see when they would be able to fit our usual winter tour in.
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Post by smokie on Apr 22, 2017 6:49:53 GMT
Don't think that there will be any UK tour this year.
The only space that I can see is in September and that might be free for holidays, who knows?
Also, they toured LNOTE here already fairly extensively and they didn't miss anywhere out, I don't think.
Aquostic UK tour in 2018 perhaps?
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Post by mortified on Apr 22, 2017 7:28:01 GMT
I must admit, I wasn't expecting a UK winter tour this year. I thought it was all pretty much done and dusted and other parts of the globe were getting their share before it petered out. That's the impression being given by the media company rhetoric anyway. Of course, I'm not naive enough to believe that the end is nigh; been down that road far too often But I do think UK winter tours in the usual tradition are a thing of the past. Believe it or not, I'm actually quite glad. Travelling and hanging about on freezing cold winter days not long before Christmas was becoming a bit of a chore. From something like 10 gigs or more in November and December, we were only doing one or two in the end.
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Post by uweseeler on Apr 22, 2017 18:02:34 GMT
Aquostic Tour UK in november/december. I know the dates but I think it is fair when I do not publish the dates now. You will get them in the next few days. 9 dates and it starts on the 26. november and ends on 8. december.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 18:32:51 GMT
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Post by smokie on Apr 23, 2017 14:49:23 GMT
I received the flyer about an hour after posting my reply
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Post by mortified on Apr 24, 2017 5:33:19 GMT
I received the flyer about an hour after posting my reply Yep
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Post by snakelady on Apr 24, 2017 7:06:46 GMT
Not sure if it's a good idea to tour the UK at all this autumn. Maybe they should've left it for a year at least to give feelings about Rick time to calm down. On the other hand, those who voice their negative feelings about Francis continuing with the band aren't exactly the same who'd consider going to acoustic gigs anyway. Still, it would've been better IMO, just to show people how life will be without a Quo tour .. .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 9:58:20 GMT
Tour dates now on FB etc.
Not been to any Aquostic gigs as yet. Going to get myself over to Manchester me thinks. Not entirely sure what to expect, certainly set wise, which is no bad thing.
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Post by aitchfrossi on Apr 24, 2017 19:50:46 GMT
Not recieved fan club flyer...wonder why? Usually it gives early booking option...appears every site now advertising pre sales so much for paying out for fan club 😕Love the first Aquostic Bam
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Post by johns on Apr 25, 2017 14:20:54 GMT
Their playing Reading which is closest to me so as long as it isn't too pricey I'll probably go.
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Post by mortified on Apr 26, 2017 8:15:27 GMT
Every ticket agency has their own angle; their own scam. They're all just legalised bandits. Encouraged by the artists I hasten to add. Or at least those representing them. What is a pre-sale anyway? Either tickets are on sale or they're not. Viagogo have a pre-sale today; Ticketmaster tomorrow. Goodness knows who else. Oh, and don't expect good seats. These are reserved again for the VIP tickets at £199 and £135 a pop. £205 and £141 for London! :oo: This was a new development last year and I indulged - just the once - because I thought it was probably the last tour. I'd say you live and learn but I never do. This appears to be the new approach to maximising profits for seated gigs. No wonder they keep the seats in! Being in the fan club gets you in the door. That's it as far as ticket preference goes. Not FTMO's fault. They'll be under instruction from the corporate overseers. I'm just about done with this. 40 odd years of 'support' (their word) and this is what its come down to. I'm disillusioned with it all, I really am. I mean for fvcksake, how much fleecing are they prepared to do? Right, second coffee and I'll be a Quo fan again. I'm SO contrary
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Post by aitchfrossi on Apr 26, 2017 8:23:09 GMT
Got 02 priority this morning...best seats already sold out...won't be renewing fan club as not even recieved flyer...not over moon with seats but not the worse ones
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Post by smokie on Apr 26, 2017 8:56:31 GMT
mortified,
Even if you haven't had your second coffee, I think you're bang on the money with that post.
I know everyone gets out of bed in the morning for money but this incessant fleecing of fans has to stop sometime surely? It's not just Quo that I'm referring to here either, it's probably all artists.
I couldn't believe the number of LNOTE products that are being released in July? Is it preying on the gullible? 13? I guess they're hoping that fans will buy multiple copies?
I've a friend who's a Rod Stewart fan and she says that lately, Rod has been in the habit of releasing a new album and then a few weeks later another one appears with the "limited edition bonus tracks". I think it's just too much and why do fans put up with it?
The buzz words appear to be "limited edition" or "exclusive" but really, how exclusive or how limited is that edition.
Say those words and folk go running, don't they?
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Post by mortified on Apr 26, 2017 9:24:12 GMT
I saw an article on the news the other week about ticket agencies and their ability to buy up tickets en masse at 9am on the dot because of the software they have installed. They then pass them on to sites like Viagogo, Live Nation and Getmein who charge inflated prices because its legal to do so. Its treated like a bidding system like, say, e-bay. The government have been approached to so something but so far all is silent.
Most artists are appalled by the policy because they don't see any of this extra cash and also don't want to fleece their fans but they indicated that Robbie Williams actually had a deal for this to happen. They did not know if other artists did.
All of the above explains the difficulty in getting half decent tickets over the past few years. However, this VIP thing is shocking in my opinion. £199 for front row? Why? Why the fvck should I? £135 for Row E but £55 for Row F?
I'm not sure but - as per usual! - it appears to be a UK thing. I got Barcelona tickets months ago. Second row right in the middle with no hassle whatsoever. No pre-sale, no VIP, no pi$$ing about. Promoters or whoever is responsible obviously have a greater concern for people in Spain than they do here.
What a way for it to end.
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Post by smokie on Apr 26, 2017 12:31:36 GMT
aitchfrossi,
I wouldn't blame FTMO as their hands will almost certainly be tied and I think they do their best, I really do.
The Fan Club presale was started when Mike Hrano was in charge and I know that I received some excellent tickets via that service. I'm not saying the two are connected but Mike left FTMO shortly after a tour was announced that there was no presale for fans. You would have to ask Simon Porter and Neil Warnock why they didn't want a presale that time. So, Yvonne at FTMO has managed to reintroduce this service and if you're a member, then it's up to you whether you use this service or not.
For all his supposed wrongs, I genuinely believe that David Walker cared about the fans and appreciated their (our) loyalty in a way that I'm not sure if other managers do or did. I think some just see, or saw us a cash cow.
Just heard a radio programme about some poor soul buying tickets for Ed Sheerin via Viagogo. Before purchase, the 4 tickets totalled something like £200+ but when they clicked "buy", the total changed to over £2000.00!!! I don't think anyone will be surprised to then hear that the tickets didn't turn up. They did get their money back though, eventually.
I just think that this organised rip off is so wrong and it's no surprise to me whatsoever that it only appears to happening in the UK. No surprise.
I suppose it will only last as long as people tolerate it.
Rant over. Back to work
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Post by mortified on Apr 26, 2017 12:57:39 GMT
I think, in case there is any misunderstanding, I don't believe we have a divine right to great seats just because we're in the fan club. We don't have a divine right to any seat. But my point is that it isn't a level playing field. You're actually defeated in your endeavours before you even start. The ticket you might hope to get just isn't available to you. And there is no clear indication of that at any time from anyone. Its all done behind the scenes and very underhand. Someone somewhere isn't proud of it but will take the money anyway. I also would like to know - and I suspect no one will ever tell me - what happened to those seats after the fifth row? Front row is VIP at £199; up to row 5 is £135. I could only get Row S for Newcastle and Row Q for Glasgow. So where are the tickets for rows F backwards? What are the chances a proportion turn up on Viagogo? Or Ticketmaster's 'sister site' as they like to call it. I got on the Songkick site at 8:59 precisely so I didn't hang about. See what I mean? This isn't just the introduction of VIP tickets, which is bad enough but at least its crystal clear. This is collusion between the ticket agencies and other parties to keep back certain seats. Which parties though? Our local friendly capitalist would call this 'supply and demand'; that insidious term for ripping people off that we've had since the 80's. But this is something else entirely. This is restricting supply to create demand. God, I'm on one today I do apologise.
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Apr 26, 2017 13:00:22 GMT
I'm going to the Wolverhampton Civic and I thought £63 (inc fees etc) was exorbitant for a balcony seat. I logged onto the fan club presale at 9am, was offered a seat, tried to find a better one, went back and found they had all been sold. I returned later and the seat I had been offered previously was back on sale so I bought it. For the last acoustic tour it was all seated but this time the ground floor is all standing which is a bit puzzling. I wouldn't be going other than the ticket will be my only expense - travel free with bus pass and no overnight stay.
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Post by LOZ on Apr 26, 2017 13:11:40 GMT
I gave up my membership last year. am I wrong in thinking as a member we should have had first pickings? trouble is many members would text /ething non members on the day we got our flyer and so the Chinese whispers started. many a time in the past I would try for tickets on that day as soon as the phone lines opened only to be told...... SOLD OUT. indeed mortified, what does happen to those elusive seats.!!!
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Post by mortified on Apr 26, 2017 13:44:34 GMT
am I wrong in thinking as a member we should have had first pickings? We did get first pickings. But only from a very select number of seats. And very far from the best ones they could offer.
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Post by snakelady on Apr 26, 2017 14:45:57 GMT
I admit I absolutely don't get the UK version of buying tickets for seated areas or all seated venues. Here you get a map of the venue with all seats still available - different colours for differently priced areas if they exist - and you simply click on the seats you want to have. This way everybody chooses and gets what they want. The only thing you're asked is to not leave single seats free between groups (but no obligation either). Oh yeah - and the tickets are send out as soon as you've paid for them, so no nerve wrecking waits a week before the gig whether they're going to arrive in time or not. It isn't exactly rocket science !
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Post by smokie on Apr 26, 2017 15:15:02 GMT
I think, in case there is any misunderstanding, I don't believe we have a divine right to great seats just because we're in the fan club. We don't have a divine right to any seat. But my point is that it isn't a level playing field. You're actually defeated in your endeavours before you even start. The ticket you might hope to get just isn't available to you. And there is no clear indication of that at any time from anyone. Its all done behind the scenes and very underhand. Someone somewhere isn't proud of it but will take the money anyway. See what I mean? This isn't just the introduction of VIP tickets, which is bad enough but at least its crystal clear. This is collusion between the ticket agencies and other parties to keep back certain seats. Which parties though? I didn't harbour any divine right to secure the best seat either but all I wanted, as you say, is the same chance/opportunity as everyone else. if I didn't get the front row, then that was just too bad. I assumed that a fellow FTMO member was luckier/quicker than I was but it's not like that anymore.
Nothing against Rhino as I think he's a decent bloke but I think there's "VIP tickets" available for dates on his tour and with the size of venues I'm surprised about that.
I wasn't aware of Quo doing "meet and greets" or "VIP packages" until the reunion and ever since then, it looks like they are making up for lost time.
Up until a few a hours ago, I'd never heard of Viagogo, so out of all this, I've learned something new today. Won't ever use them though
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Post by LOZ on Apr 26, 2017 15:39:02 GMT
I admit I absolutely don't get the UK version of buying tickets for seated areas or all seated venues. Here you get a map of the venue with all seats still available - different colours for differently priced areas if they exist - and you simply click on the seats you want to have. This way everybody chooses and gets what they want. The only thing you're asked is to not leave single seats free between groups (but no obligation either). Oh yeah - and the tickets are send out as soon as you've paid for them, so no nerve wrecking waits a week before the gig whether they're going to arrive in time or not. It isn't exactly rocket science ! that's the case for most theaters if ur going to see a play or show but top name artists/bands are ruled by the likes of ticketbastard while allocate you yer seats.
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Post by LOZ on Apr 26, 2017 15:42:58 GMT
ive just said on the other side (they have a similar thread) that I miss the good old days when you went to ur local venue and joined the Q to get ur tickets. I always got there at least an hour before the box office opened so that I could get front row (proud to be one of the original front row hags )
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