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Post by snakelady on Apr 3, 2017 6:26:10 GMT
With the LNOTE tour continuing on 18th April in Estonia (have they ever played there before?) and on the (very) improbable chance that the set list will be changed - shouldn't the band be about to start rehearsals now ? Anybody seen or heard anything from the Quo camp -fb, twitter .. that would give us a hint ? Next stop will be Finland, then Norway, Sweden before moving further south to Denmark. Hope they bring thick gloves and the long underwear along, so they don't catch a bug - it'll still we wintry up north.
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Post by mortified on Apr 3, 2017 9:39:11 GMT
They played Tallinn a few years back. I remember toying with the idea of going because there are direct flights from Edinburgh and I know a couple of people who did. Be about 10 years ago or so now. Haven't heard anything about rehearsals but I think we can take it as a given that they will be. Like you, I don't see the set list changing much - if at all. Yeah, it'll still be a bit nippy in those places. What odds that Francis will have his fleece on?
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Post by smokie on Apr 3, 2017 11:28:21 GMT
I know that they had previously played in Estonia but wasn't sure how long ago it was.
Ten years? I hope it isn't as long ago as that but it probably was. I think I read something that Rhino said in an issue of FTMO. He remarked about how cheap everything was and was tempted to buy a property there but found out that the prices for houses/flats wasn't as cheap as the standard of living would have implied. Pals of mine have been there a few times and they said drink, food etc was ridiculously cheap. Mind you, knowing them it would have been much of the former and little of the latter
The set? I think it is what it is now and forever. I don't think there'll be any changes anywhere now as it would interrupt the "flow".
Haven't read anything anywhere about this tour but no doubt rehearsals will not be far off.
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Post by snakelady on Apr 4, 2017 6:41:40 GMT
Wasn't aware they had played there before. Direct flight from Edinburgh ? Can't imagine many people using that regularly - well, apart from some guys for the cheap booze, obviously . Guess the band will have to fly there as well, given the distances. Or they could take the ferry to travel on to Finland and then Scandinavia .. is the Baltic ice-free already this early in the year ? Guess with our general attitude to not expect anything any more, even little changes will come as a positive surprise (or maybe not ..).
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Post by mortified on Apr 4, 2017 13:43:27 GMT
Wasn't aware they had played there before. Direct flight from Edinburgh ? Can't imagine many people using that regularly.... Yeah, the budget airlines have been going there for years. I know quite a few people who have gone to Tallinn for a city break. I think its a World Heritage Site these days. People here take city breaks in places like Krakow, Vilnius and Riga. They're very popular. Plus they tend to be no colder than home! I suspect they're also cheaper to get to than, say, Milan or Seville.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 16:58:43 GMT
Setlist of the Estonian premiere....
Caroline Solid Gold The Way It Goes
April,Spring,Summer & Wednesdays Softer Ride The Wild Ones Take Me Away That's A Fact
Who Asked You A Year Bad News Twenty Wild Horses
Down Down Whatever You Want Can't Give You More
All tracks played in full....and of course no medleys whatsoever
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 18:42:50 GMT
Setlist of the Estonian premiere....
Caroline Solid Gold The Way It Goes
April,Spring,Summer & Wednesdays Softer Ride The Wild Ones Take Me Away That's A Fact
Who Asked You A Year Bad News Twenty Wild Horses
Down Down Whatever You Want Can't Give You More
All tracks played in full....and of course no medleys whatsoever
Dreams, dreams, dreams, some are never long enough Dreams, dreams, dreams, some are never good enough... I've checked the Quo online gigography, and it says Quo played Vilnius on the 4th Chord tour in 2007/08. They played the same set then they still play these days. Amazing! Ten years of status quo live. (Well, to be fair, they had Gravy Train in the set for one or two nights...) I saw them in Dec. 2008 think it was the Pictures tour by then ,but I really liked that set ...it actually had a lot of new songs.
Main Setlist: Caroline, The Wanderer, Rain, Don't drive My Car, Mean Girl, Softer Ride, Beginning of The End, Is There A Better Way, Proposin' Medley, Big Fat Mama, Pictures Of Matchstick Men, Ice In The Sun, The Oriental, Creepin' Up On You, In My Chair, Living On An Island, In The Army Now, Drum Solo Matt, Roll over lay Down, Down Down, Whatever You Want, Rockin'all over the World, Junior's Wailing, Rock'n Roll Music / Bye Bye Johnny.
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Post by smokie on Apr 4, 2017 20:42:37 GMT
If only @durango95, if only.
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Post by snakelady on Apr 5, 2017 5:52:37 GMT
Setlist of the Estonian premiere....
Caroline Solid Gold The Way It Goes
April,Spring,Summer & Wednesdays Softer Ride The Wild Ones Take Me Away That's A Fact
Who Asked You A Year Bad News Twenty Wild Horses
Down Down Whatever You Want Can't Give You More
All tracks played in full....and of course no medleys whatsoever
That's just not fair, to water our mouths like that - no RAOTW or Army anywhere in sight (and no BBJ snippet either) ! You know it's not the 1st April any more .. but what a great set that would be *SIGH* !
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Post by mortified on Apr 5, 2017 12:48:48 GMT
Setlist of the Estonian premiere....
Caroline Solid Gold The Way It Goes
April,Spring,Summer & Wednesdays Softer Ride The Wild Ones Take Me Away That's A Fact
Who Asked You A Year Bad News Twenty Wild Horses
Down Down Whatever You Want Can't Give You More
All tracks played in full....and of course no medleys whatsoever
That is one $hit hot set. I'd pay money to see that. Well, more money actually
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 14:36:33 GMT
With that setlist I could follow the band around the globe....
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 5, 2017 16:36:40 GMT
With that setlist I could follow the band around the Globe.... Careful, maybe TVQ reads this... Anyhow. I was already pi$$ed off that the sound on last year's gigs was supposedly better than on many previous tours and that Francis had apparently remembered the proper way to play guitar. Why wait so long until Rick wasn't there anymore though? And if they now started changing their set list like that, I'd feel even more annoyed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 19:23:28 GMT
I don't buy that 'average quo fan' stuff at all. And that certain songs must be played.
What kind of Quo fans is it if they don't know the songs on my setlist??
Is there people out there paying ridiculous amount of cash just to hear the Proposing medley,WYW,ITAN;RAOTW,DD,ROLD and BBJ?
Every feckin year not only once but several times a year??
I mean those song aren't THAT good are they?? If you have heard them on your record player at home plus at multiple gigs for about 400 times,isn't that enough?? There are other bands out there to listen to. I've been a Quo fan for over forty-five years but hearing the same song as I said 400 times..well I might be starting to get a bit old,but I don't suffer from memory loss!
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Post by smokie on Apr 5, 2017 21:15:56 GMT
I think the band cater for the "average" Quo fan and not us and because of that, I'm inclined to agree with @inna.
Set wise, I think the band have undersold themselves for years and I can't see it changing now.
I'd like to hear that set live and as much as most on here would love it, the majority of the audience probably wouldn't know half of them.
Personally, if I never heard RAOTW ever again I'd be quite happy about that but anytime I hear that played live, it lifts the roof. It's the same with Burning Bridges and I don't care for either.
Unfortunately (for me anyway), large numbers of the audience come to hear songs like that because those are the type of songs that they know and as brilliant as the above set list is, I doubt if the average fan would know half of them. Unfortunately.
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Post by snakelady on Apr 6, 2017 6:34:19 GMT
With that setlist I could follow the band around the Globe.... Careful, maybe TVQ reads this... Anyhow. I was already pi$$ed off that the sound on last year's gigs was supposedly better than on many previous tours and that Francis had apparently remembered the proper way to play guitar. Why wait so long until Rick wasn't there anymore though? And if they now started changing their set list like that, I'd feel even more annoyed. Well, if they'd indeed introduce an erhm .. dare I say it .. radically changed set, it would point towards Rick having been the blocking stone, I suppose. And yep - you missed out last winter, see my Stuttgart report ! The LNOTE tour looks like it's a global ( ) success already anyway. Ah, I miss his discussions with Mareno ..
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Post by mortified on Apr 6, 2017 10:06:20 GMT
Unfortunately (for me anyway), large numbers of the audience come to hear songs like that because those are the type of songs that they know.... To be fair to those in the audience, this goes hand in hand with targeting the light entertainment TV slots for the last 30-odd years (see other thread). Since about 1983 Quo have deliberately and calculatingly sought a broader mass appeal. And kicking off Live Aid pretty much nailed things. It sealed the deal. And to be fair to Quo, its has probably kept them in business. So the decision to go down that road (if it was a conscious decision) was a good one. In terms of income at any rate. Artistically it is open to debate. And, boy, have we have debated it endlessly! Sometimes I think they almost went too far and courted losing that audience but they have always managed to turn it round. Too many covers albums interspersed with some really good stuff. Whether you like them or you don't, there is no doubt in my mind that Don't Stop and Aquostic were masterstrokes. But so was Heavy Traffic in a completely different way. It turned many recent albums on their heads and also received critical acclaim. I think Quo have just about managed to get it right most of the time. The set list is now more stale than its ever been but it seems almost irrelevant now as well. We're all still here because we still like a lot of the material, old and new. But I suspect many of us go along to see the band as much in hope as in expectation. Luckily, I personally have had a great time anyway so how can I grumble? Sheer enjoyment as a by product? Now there's an oddity. My one lasting regret with this band - and it probably is just the one - is I may be left with the thought "if only".
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Post by smokie on Apr 6, 2017 12:34:47 GMT
Think that's a excellent post there mortified and I think you have hit the nail on the head there in every regard.
I sometimes wonder if the choices that they made at certain times, as you mentioned, Don't Stop and Aquostic were some brilliant strategic ploy or just a fluke, a sort of "well, we've tried everything else so we may as well try this now" but you're right, they worked, definitely work. I kind of got put off Don't Stop because I wasn't sure if covers is what I wanted to hear and when the album came out, my Mum said "don't they look smart in their jackets and ties" and that really put me off
The three albums mentioned, Don't Stop, Heavy Traffic and Aquostic all drew attention to the band in different ways and I'm not sure how many albums have done so in the past?
I feel the same about "if only" but I like to think that's me being optimistic as opposed to the opposite.
Another word re the set list. I was thinking about creating a thread suggesting to create a set that didn't contain any hit singles. I'd miss Caroline but I think I could quite happily listen to album tracks all night.
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Post by Quoincidence on Apr 6, 2017 14:34:03 GMT
It's just laziness at the end of the day regarding the set... They did Mystery Song in 2012 on it's own for once and didn't bother with the solo or the end. tbh they shouldn't have even bothered
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Post by gogs on Apr 6, 2017 15:48:15 GMT
The set list for the remainder of LNOTE won't be too different, if different at all. to the rest of the tour. The band won't change it because the previous audiences would feel cheated. A tour is a tour, a set list is a set list, a gig is a gig. Simple philosophy, bl**dy frustrating at times, but that's how it is. Unless the set falls to bits, it won't be change mid tour.
Perhaps we can hope/pray for change for the summer festivals and aqoustic tours. But as I keep saying, "Don't hold your breath."
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Post by snakelady on Apr 7, 2017 7:03:19 GMT
The set list for the remainder of LNOTE won't be too different, if different at all. to the rest of the tour. The band won't change it because the previous audiences would feel cheated. A tour is a tour, a set list is a set list, a gig is a gig. Simple philosophy, bl**dy frustrating at times, but that's how it is. Unless the set falls to bits, it won't be change mid tour. Perhaps we can hope/pray for change for the summer festivals and aqoustic tours. But as I keep saying, "Don't hold your breath." Imo you're right of course, but it is just an easy excuse. 95% of previous audiences from the ongoing LNOTE tour wouldn't even know about a changed set and even if a few would search for the info they wouldn't mind. The gigs had been a huge success and (nearly) everybody went home completely happy. It would rather be an incentive for those few in the know to consider going to additional gigs. This summer Quo are playing the nearest to where I live they've ever done and at a stunning location at that - and I still haven't bought tickets. I just don't want to hear that set live again. I just don't - I'm sick and tired of it ! They'd have to offer me just a little, just 2-3 different songs and I'd be there in a flash. It was the acoustic tour that gave us a taste of the 'what if' and actually Francis' solo tour. Now I fear the next acoustic set will be turned into something considered to have wider appeal and in the end will very much resemble the electric set (please no !!!) and I very much hope for another FR solo tour (please yes ! ).
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Post by smokie on Apr 7, 2017 11:47:29 GMT
snakelady,
I share your concerns re the Aquostic set now becoming something else. I sincerely hope that they don't do that.
I just hope that the Aquostic set does not become a copy of the electric one in that they start with Caroline and then.....
I liked Aquostic for lots of reasons and one of those was because the live show sounded fresh and I know it bored some but I found the whole thing, is exciting too strong a word? It was different and that freshness and that it was different added to the occasion for me.
I'm really not sure if I'll see the band play electric again. I could be tempted if there was a tour with an adjusted set, if the only option is a festival type thing then I'd probably give it a miss. No matter how close it was to home.
If Francis tours again, I hope the next tour is as good as the last one. I know it was his first solo show but that night in Edinburgh really was something else. I didn't know what was coming next (obviously) but the set was full of surprises too.
PS. 48 eggs, how am I doing?
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Post by mortified on Apr 7, 2017 12:45:28 GMT
PS. 48 eggs, how am I doing? You have to eat them all as well remember
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Post by smokie on Apr 7, 2017 13:26:34 GMT
PS. 48 eggs, how am I doing? You have to eat them all as well remember Oh dear! Sounds like a scene from a Paul Newman film
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Post by mortified on Apr 8, 2017 6:42:08 GMT
You have to eat them all as well remember Oh dear! Sounds like a scene from a Paul Newman film Ever listen to a band called Hustler back in the 70's? They only made two albums but both were great! I still listen to them now. Just saying.
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Post by frozenhero on Apr 11, 2017 20:54:12 GMT
Careful, maybe TVQ reads this... Anyhow. I was already pi$$ed off that the sound on last year's gigs was supposedly better than on many previous tours and that Francis had apparently remembered the proper way to play guitar. Why wait so long until Rick wasn't there anymore though? And if they now started changing their set list like that, I'd feel even more annoyed. Me too. And yes indeed, why wait so long? I saw a tour poster a couple of weeks ago announcing the open-air gig with ZZ Top in the summer, and my heart skipped a beat when I saw the name Status Quo, just like it used to do. But half a second later I realised it was going to be the 'new' Status Quo and that if I went, I'd be nothing more than an old fan - or should I say a former fan? - and with my heart not into it at all anymore. (Oh gosh, what a sad, sad thought that is.) So why wait so long to change the setlist? Maybe with the 'new boy' in the band and thus some new input plus the band being tighter or more of a band than before, they might, just might be ready to try out a different set with 'new' songs that might even flow... But then your 'average' Quo fan wouldn't know half the songs on @durango95 's setlist, and that would make them feel unhappy and leave them disappointed. So it might be better to play safe and give the fans what they want to hear... Let's be real here Inna. When I went to my first Quo concert I knew about 1/3 of the setlist. I think the whole discussion is built on feet of clay...
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