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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 22:49:50 GMT
As I've made the decision to go and see a Quo Electric show this summer I downloaded the recording of the December 2016 gig at the O2 to get some sort of an idea on what I might be letting myself in for.
I thought it sounded great, although it did feel a little strange at times knowing that Rick wasn't there.
I've never been a fan of the drum solos, I would rather hear another song in its place.
I would make changes to the set though, especially now. I wouldn't open with Caroline anymore and as I have mentioned elsewhere, perhaps songs written only by Rick should be dropped. I don't have a problem with Bown singing on Whatever You Want for example, well the principle anyway!
What this is leading up to is that I can't just suddenly stop being a Quo fan, I simply can't. Whether that's right or wrong I don't know. I have always looked to embrace each era or chapter of Quo with an open mind.
So, if they carry on for a couple more years and I get a chance to see a show I will go. If another album comes along by either the band or any further solo efforts, I will probably buy it.
Like many others, I found myself nearly in tears when that terrible news came through on Christmas Eve, and my initial reaction was that the band should quit immediately.
But, as a bit of time has passed, my view now is that I am going to stick around and see how this latest Quo chapter plays out. It may be good, it may be crap, but I will wait and see!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 8:50:13 GMT
As I've made the decision to go and see a Quo Electric show this summer I downloaded the recording of the December 2016 gig at the O2 to get some sort of an idea on what I might be letting myself in for. I thought it sounded great, although it did feel a little strange at times knowing that Rick wasn't there. I've never been a fan of the drum solos, I would rather hear another song in its place. I would make changes to the set though, especially now. I wouldn't open with Caroline anymore and as I have mentioned elsewhere, perhaps songs written only by Rick should be dropped. I don't have a problem with Bown singing on Whatever You Want for example, well the principle anyway! What this is leading up to is that I can't just suddenly stop being a Quo fan, I simply can't. Whether that's right or wrong I don't know. I have always looked to embrace each era or chapter of Quo with an open mind. So, if they carry on for a couple more years and I get a chance to see a show I will go. If another album comes along by either the band or any further solo efforts, I will probably buy it. Like many others, I found myself nearly in tears when that terrible news came through on Christmas Eve, and my initial reaction was that the band should quit immediately. But, as a bit of time has passed, my view now is that I am going to stick around and see how this latest Quo chapter plays out. It may be good, it may be crap, but I will wait and see! Great post - exactly how I feel. There is no right or wrong, if you enjoy it then it's got to be right, if you don't enjoy then don't go, nothing wrong in that either. Richie ain't Rick but he's brilliant none the less. It would seem that Rick very much approved of Richie as well, I don't know why but I take a lot of comfort from that. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 9:02:50 GMT
As I've said before, where music is concerned, there is never a right or wrong, good or bad.
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Post by kursaal75 on Feb 6, 2017 9:10:32 GMT
 Is this live CD from the London O2 on the 13th, December 2015, the last official recording featuring Rick? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 9:35:30 GMT
As I've said before, where music is concerned, there is never a right or wrong, good or bad. Eh ?! so no music is ever bad then, is that what you are saying ?!, amazing comment, but fair enough if that's what you believe to be correct. Nothing amazing about it. Music is a set of notes put together in a certain order, no more, no less. It has a wonderful ability to create a range of emotions in the listener, some good, some bad. My wife loves her 'dance' music and thinks Quo's music is awful. I love Quo's music and think 'dance' music is awful. Neither of us is right or wrong. |
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Post by smokie on Feb 6, 2017 10:00:20 GMT
Eh ?! so no music is ever bad then, is that what you are saying ?!, amazing comment, but fair enough if that's what you believe to be correct. My wife loves her 'dance' music and thinks Quo's music is awful. I love Quo's music and think 'dance' music is awful. Neither of us is right or wrong. In this case, I think you are Bam 
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Post by smokie on Feb 6, 2017 10:03:18 GMT
As I've said before, where music is concerned, there is never a right or wrong, good or bad. Eh ?! so no music is ever bad then, is that what you are saying ?!, amazing comment, but fair enough if that's what you believe to be correct. I agree with Bam really. It's only music and I think he's right, there isn't right/wrong/good/bad. You can't tell people what they should like.
It goes back to that old saying, one mans meat is another mans poison.
It's only rock 'n' roll............
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Feb 6, 2017 13:00:39 GMT
As I've said before, where music is concerned, there is never a right or wrong, good or bad. Eh ?! so no music is ever bad then, is that what you are saying ?!, amazing comment, but fair enough if that's what you believe to be correct. Music can be right or wrong for the individual Ive....which comes back to their opinion. As Bam says, music isn't good or bad per se; some people see a piece of music as good and others will see the same song or performance as bad, neither is right or wrong they just have a different opinion of the same thing. People often moan about critics...they may have lots of experience of their chosen field, but it's still only their opinion. |
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Post by smokie on Feb 6, 2017 13:21:10 GMT
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Post by smokie on Feb 6, 2017 13:27:09 GMT
People often moan about critics...they may have lots of experience of their chosen field, but it's still only their opinion. Agree 100% with this.
The number of films I've watched and records listened to, purely because of a review by a critic and been disappointed, you would not believe.
Now, I just ignore the critics and buy/watch what I want to.
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Post by smokie on Feb 6, 2017 15:51:06 GMT
Agree 100% with this.
The number of films I've watched and records listened to, purely because of a review by a critic and been disappointed, you would not believe.
Now, I just ignore the critics and buy/watch what I want to.
I can recall buying Mr Rossi's St Lukes DVD based on reviews I had read, (as initiallly I wasn't planning to buy it) a lot of critics raving about it, so I thought to meself, well it can't be that bad, maybe I'm wrong in thinking it is,, when I got it, I watched it once and thought "what a pile of c.r.a.p" and luckily managed to sell it for the price I paid for it. Isn't this just proof that we all like different things? Some do and some don't.
Personally, I really enjoy and like the Live At St Lukes DVD and it's a DVD that I still play fairly regularly. I like the selection of songs, the way they are played and I think it's a decent performance from all concerned (although I know Francis had to re-record some of his).
Look on the bright side Ive, at least you didn't lose any money on it 
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 9:59:52 GMT
Does that mean you are getting rid of all your Quo stuff altogether - all Rossi related I'm afraid!
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Post by mortified on Feb 8, 2017 10:49:48 GMT
I have tended not to listen to Quo's live CD's in recent years; not in their entirety. I do collect them but unless they have the odd song that is rarely played or is new, I tend to file them away. There's been too many without any drastic change in the set; certainly since 2008. They are released principally to attract those who attend specific gigs; owning the recording of the gig you were at is obviously the marketing ploy for these things. And Quo are far from the only ones doing it. Collectors are rarely aimed at because we're a small minority share of the market. Even with the Frantic Four CD's, I played a couple from 2013 because the set was pretty unusual but the 2014 releases - apart from listening to Gotta Go Home - I didn't bother. Up until 2008, the only full live recording of the band officially released was the Apollo one issued in 1977. From then on though, we've been flooded with them year on year. I haven't counted them but there must be more than 20. I have listened to songs from the Zurich and Amsterdam CD's from last year to see how they sounded and I thought they were alright. The overall sound of the band was great. To be honest, Rick's voice has been so shot in recent years that it was actually a relief not to hear him struggle so much - which he evidently did. I'm not sure what the future holds for me with the band. But very much like Rick and his addictions, I find it very hard to quit. I've got an Aquostic gig at the end of June; after that it's an open book. I'll decide later and as I go along. Last of the electrics? I'm not sure I really believed it anyway.  |
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Post by problemshalved on Feb 8, 2017 13:40:07 GMT
I think people,hear what they want to hear. I seriously doubt whilst in the throws of a gig the majority can tell the difference between Richie and Rick especially as Richie is clearly a quality musician. There were nuances e.g. during Rain which I picked up and actually enjoyed, but in the main hard to tell the difference, until you sit down and pick thru recordings with a fine tooth comb if that is what tickles your fancy to pass time on those long winter nights. That is not derogatory about Rick just simple reality.
The FF Gigs are a classic case. I maintain those gigs were so brilliant because the punters had decided they were up for a good time and created that atmosphere we all remember from 30-40 years ago. It was that atmosphere that brought tears to my eyes and brought back the memories ( that is nostalgia).. However, to say, as some have said the return of AL's basline made all the difference is dilusionary especially as the guy could not even hold his plectrum. If everyone has been blindfolded and Rhino came on stage and replaced him, I doubt 99pct would have noticed the difference ( his vocals however were a key ingredient).
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Post by mortified on Feb 8, 2017 14:45:22 GMT
The FF Gigs are a classic case. I maintain those gigs were so brilliant because the punters had decided they were up for a good time and created that atmosphere we all remember from 30-40 years ago. I'm 100% in agreement with that. I could draw comparisons between certain songs as played by both versions of the band (even in recent years) but its a fruitless exercise. You like what you like and you hear what you hear. At any gig, I'm never concentrating on anything other than having a great time. I've paid my money so I'm bl00dy well going to Later, if I hear a recording, I'll maybe pick over it a bit more but really I'm just listening. To put it in some sort of context, I thought Francis's solo in O Baby was better on the winter tour than it was on the FF one. Likewise, the FF were better at Blue Eyed Lady. But, yeah, it was the atmosphere that really made those gigs for me. |
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Post by problemshalved on Feb 8, 2017 15:28:23 GMT
I think people,hear what they want to hear. I seriously doubt whilst in the throws of a gig the majority can tell the difference between Richie and Rick especially as Richie is clearly a quality musician. There were nuances e.g. during Rain which I picked up and actually enjoyed, but in the main hard to tell the difference, until you sit down and pick thru recordings with a fine tooth comb if that is what tickles your fancy to pass time on those long winter nights. That is not derogatory about Rick just simple reality. The FF Gigs are a classic case. I maintain those gigs were so brilliant because the punters had decided they were up for a good time and created that atmosphere we all remember from 30-40 years ago. It was that atmosphere that brought tears to my eyes and brought back the memories ( that is nostalgia).. However, to say, as some have said the return of AL's basline made all the difference is dilusionary especially as the guy could not even hold his plectrum. If everyone has been blindfolded and Rhino came on stage and replaced him, I doubt 99pct would have noticed the difference ( his vocals however were a key ingredient). Obviously, I disagree with every word of the above, but I best not comment further, except to say, to each their own and I hope you will enjoy FRQ gigs for many years to come, along with the rhythm guitarist you can hear no difference in. P.S! Have you ever put up such a post in other places, places that aren't taken in with FRQ for example ? I have better things to with my time than to be trawling various Quo message boards. FYI I have been a regular since 78 and knocked up prob around 100 gigs over that period with a larger number ratio wise in the 78-84 period. My observations come from what I do at a gig which is to enjoy myself and not spend half my life analysing to the nth degree differences. From my observations and experiences key differences over the years have been visual e.g. Rhino just didn't look right. Obviously the long lasting image of Quo will always be Rossi, Parfitt and Lancaster legs wide in front of the drum riser and no one can ever replace that, but sound wise I still say the majority would have a hard time spotting any differences, unless it suits arguments to slag of Rossi or whoever they have an axe to grind with |
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