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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 21:18:42 GMT
A great song and I imagine that the Rossi sung version must have caused some tension within the band at the time.
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Post by viking55 on Feb 4, 2017 21:43:22 GMT
Thank god it wasnt that corny official video. Made me embarrassed to be a fan at the time.....along with the other cheesy one...SBYBIL....lol.
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Post by smokie on Feb 5, 2017 9:55:02 GMT
Of the two, my favourite is the one with the vocal by Francis.
I don't dislike Alan's version, I just prefer the other one.
Wonder why the record company opted to release the one that they did?
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Post by smokie on Feb 5, 2017 10:05:10 GMT
Wonder why the record company opted to release the one that they did? The record company probably thought the song would sound better with Mr Rossi on lead vocals and that it would sell better, at a guess, which makes me wonder if Mr Rossi was actually complying with a record company request,, either way, stil underhand,devious and showed a total lack of consideration to the rest of the band as far as I'm concerned  It's always puzzled me a little that the band/record company released singles with Rick on lead vocals but never Alan and this was a perfect opportunity to do so. |
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Post by LOZ on Feb 6, 2017 13:58:32 GMT
I like that one.
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Post by fisherman on Feb 16, 2017 17:50:57 GMT
mediocre song, saved by Francis' vocals
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Post by craydarr on Feb 16, 2017 18:10:18 GMT
A great song and I imagine that the Rossi sung version must have caused some tension within the band at the time. I'm sure I can recall hearing a story that Mr Rossi went back into the studio alone one day, (& unknown to the rest of the band) to re record the lead vocals, as the original recording was the one with Alan's vocals on lead. If its true then it shows how underhand,devious and in control he wanted to be and not (seemingly) even prepared to discuss or even consider the rest of the bands views on the matter. From the story I heard it was Fran who pushed to get the song released as a single but the RC wanted him to sing it and didn't want Alans version, that's why there were 2 versions.
Not sure Francis did anything underhand.
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Post by craydarr on Feb 16, 2017 18:13:01 GMT
Oh and I LOVE IT !!!!
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Post by smokie on Feb 16, 2017 19:27:39 GMT
I'm sure I can recall hearing a story that Mr Rossi went back into the studio alone one day, (& unknown to the rest of the band) to re record the lead vocals, as the original recording was the one with Alan's vocals on lead. If its true then it shows how underhand,devious and in control he wanted to be and not (seemingly) even prepared to discuss or even consider the rest of the bands views on the matter. From the story I heard it was Fran who pushed to get the song released as a single but the RC wanted him to sing it and didn't want Alans version, that's why there were 2 versions.
Not sure Francis did anything underhand.
That rings a bell with me too. I think I remember Francis saying that he was speaking to Brian Shepherd at Vertigo after/during the recording sessions for Back To Back and the latter suggested that the run of singles should be Ol'Rag Blues, A Mess Of Blues and then Marguerita Time which delighted Francis as that's how he saw it too. I don't know if Francis did anything underhand either, perhaps the RC asked him to re-record the vocal, perhaps they didn't. Who knows? Rick felt put out as he didn't sing the lead on Too Close To The Ground. Think the quote was something like "I'm sitting in the control and Francis is out there singing my song". Give or take a expletive or two. Think that's in one of the books? |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 16, 2017 23:05:02 GMT
It's always puzzled me a little that the band/record company released singles with Rick on lead vocals but never Alan and this was a perfect opportunity to do so. I know what you mean, however, the way I have always seen it is that Quo had 3 good vocalists, Alan's vocals were more suited to the heavier stuff, the stuff that never got released as singles, Ricks vocals could do both the heavier stuff and the lighter stuff, Mr Rossi's vocals, were more suited to the lighter stuff in the main. Both Rick and Alan had rock vocals, Mr Rossi has never had what I would deem as rock vocals It's strange that Alan was never given the chance to sing lead on a "Quo" single. I wonder if it stems from the days of the Spectres, he did sing lead on a couple of singles but they flopped. The whole band wanted Backwater as a single in 74, however they were outvoted by the RC who said BTR was more commercial. Something like Juniors could have been a single from Ma Kellys. I suppose though Rick was brought into the band in 67 to be a vocalist for the band. As the management thought they needed a proper singer. The fact that he became a bloody god guitarist was a extra. |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 16, 2017 23:12:56 GMT
It's strange that Alan was never given the chance to sing lead on a "Quo" single. I wonder if it stems from the days of the Spectres, he did sing lead on a couple of singles but they flopped. The whole band wanted Backwater as a single in 74, however they were outvoted by the RC who said BTR was more commercial. Something like Juniors could have been a single from Ma Kellys. I suppose though Rick was brought into the band in 67 to be a vocalist for the band. As the management thought they needed a proper singer. The fact that he became a bloody god guitarist was a extra. Given the singles SQ released, I don't believe Alan's vocals would have suited any of them to be honest I suppose the closest we get to an Alan single is the dual lead vocal on WYP. |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 16, 2017 23:17:02 GMT
From the story I heard it was Fran who pushed to get the song released as a single but the RC wanted him to sing it and didn't want Alans version, that's why there were 2 versions.
Not sure Francis did anything underhand.
Maybe thats the case then, but its still don't excuse the fact he did it without informing any other band member I have seen this said a lot however people forget that Rick sing's the Bridge. That could have been left for Alan but it seems that the RC didn't want any of Alan's vocals on it. |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 16, 2017 23:25:24 GMT
I have seen this said a lot however people forget that Rick sing's the Bridge. That could have been left for Alan but it seems that the RC didn't want any of Alan's vocals on it. Possibly, the RC regarded Mr Rossi's voice as the sound of SQ for the singles, and thought it would sell better if he was on lead vocals, so how then do you explain Rain,Mystery Song & LOAI ?!,,, in the same way they still regard it as SQ as long as Mr Rossi is still in it. I think it's because Rick was brought in as a singer. Rick got a lead vocal bridge as far back as Ice in the Sun, then his first lead vocal on Are You Growing Tired. He was even singing the B side of that single. |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 16, 2017 23:32:09 GMT
I think it's because Rick was brought in as a singer. Rick got a lead vocal bridge as far back as Ice in the Sun, then his first lead vocal on Are You Growing Tired. He was even singing the B side of that single. Or perhaps it was because they were Rick written songs, forgot to mention Again & Again in my previous post. The early songs with him on vocals were not they were written by outside writers. Though the ones he wrote in the late 70s were the most commercial tracks on the albums. BFY the only track that could have been a single would have been Ring Of A Change. |
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Post by mortified on Feb 17, 2017 6:24:22 GMT
Its funny but this is a song I've never really liked. In fact, it didn't bode well for the album either because its my least favourite LP out of all of them. When I got the single, I remember thinking it was the first new studio material since the whole NEC thing and I was quite excited. That turned to deflation quite quickly.  The b-side was pretty poor as well and it also pitched up on the album. The 12" version with its extended break in the middle was slightly better but not by much. I don't care who sang vocals. I wouldn't have made the blindest bit of difference. Actually, now I know. It didn't. The album then proceeded to throw out 3 completely naff singles one after the other with no material on the b-sides to break the monotony. Not a great era. |
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Post by snakelady on Feb 17, 2017 6:53:01 GMT
Its funny but this is a song I've never really liked. In fact, it didn't bode well for the album either because its my least favourite LP out of all of them. When I got the single, I remember thinking it was the first new studio material since the whole NEC thing and I was quite excited. That turned to deflation quite quickly. The b-side was pretty poor as well and it also pitched up on the album. The 12" version with its extended break in the middle was slightly better but not by much. I don't care who sang vocals. I wouldn't have made the blindest bit of difference. Actually, now I know. It didn't. The album then proceeded to throw out 3 completely naff singles one after the other with no material on the b-sides to break the monotony. Not a great era. Agree ! Can't stand the song, no matter who sings it. One of these poppy uninspired and boring 80s singles that drove me away from the band. Whoever created the myth that Quo merely changed after Alan (or John or Bob) were out and the band reformed in 86, is completely wrong. There's no difference between Dear John and Little Dreamer (LD is probably the better song even), but both are the same type of pop song - the type I simply didn't like (although admittedly I may have mellowed a little since). |
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Post by mortified on Feb 17, 2017 8:24:35 GMT
Its funny but this is a song I've never really liked. In fact, it didn't bode well for the album either because its my least favourite LP out of all of them. When I got the single, I remember thinking it was the first new studio material since the whole NEC thing and I was quite excited. That turned to deflation quite quickly. The b-side was pretty poor as well and it also pitched up on the album. The 12" version with its extended break in the middle was slightly better but not by much. I don't care who sang vocals. I wouldn't have made the blindest bit of difference. Actually, now I know. It didn't. The album then proceeded to throw out 3 completely naff singles one after the other with no material on the b-sides to break the monotony. Not a great era. Agree ! Can't stand the song, no matter who sings it. One of these poppy uninspired and boring 80s singles that drove me away from the band. Whoever created the myth that Quo merely changed after Alan (or John or Bob) were out and the band reformed in 86, is completely wrong. There's no difference between Dear John and Little Dreamer (LD is probably the better song even), but both are the same type of pop song - the type I simply didn't like (although admittedly I may have mellowed a little since). I'd agree with that to a small extent. However, I think the departure of Bob Young in particular did make a difference. Bernie Frost became the main songwriting partner for Francis and although some of the stuff they came up with was good, equally, some of it was pretty dire. There was even a marked improvement when he was no longer on the scene and Bob came back into the fold. In fact, at the time, Heavy Traffic was nothing short of a renaissance! |
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Post by snakelady on Feb 17, 2017 13:51:47 GMT
Whoever created the myth that Quo merely changed after Alan (or John or Bob) were out and the band reformed in 86, is completely wrong. T Oh really ?!   Really. |
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Post by snakelady on Feb 17, 2017 14:08:44 GMT
Oh good ! ,, I do admire yer blind loyalty to the (failing) cause Not nearly as blind or as loyal as you are towards Rick - although I'm not sure whether that's something to admire or whether it isn't a little bit disturbing and unhealthy ..  |
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Post by snakelady on Feb 17, 2017 14:41:17 GMT
Not nearly as blind or as loyal as you are towards Rick - although I'm not sure whether that's something to admire or whether it isn't a little bit disturbing and unhealthy .. Pot Kettle Black there given some of yer past own attempts to defend Mr Green Man , the man you THINK is Status Quo  Wrong. I think he's the most important band member - that's a huge difference. But even he himself thinks the band could continue without him and he probably is right. Not sure if I'd still be interested though. If he was still alive I'd prefer solo gigs of his, if not .. no idea. Maybe I'd go to a Quo gig .. |
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Post by craydarr on Feb 17, 2017 18:06:42 GMT
From the story I heard it was Fran who pushed to get the song released as a single but the RC wanted him to sing it and didn't want Alans version, that's why there were 2 versions.
Not sure Francis did anything underhand.
Maybe thats the case then, but its still don't excuse the fact he did it without informing any other band member Do you know that is definitely true? |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 17, 2017 18:57:17 GMT
Do you know that is definitely true? Alan mentioned it I believe, and that's good enough for me How do you account for Rick singing the Bridge though. The fact he is means he must have known about it. |
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Feb 17, 2017 19:06:30 GMT
How do you account for Rick singing the Bridge though. The fact he is means he must have known about it. The only part that was re recorded was the main lead vocals, nothing else, so the bridge was already there as far as I'm aware No on the Alan vocal version he sings the entire song including the bridge. |
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Post by craydarr on Feb 17, 2017 19:39:50 GMT
No on the Alan vocal version he sings the entire song including the bridge. Edited to suit then You don't half make me laarf, talk about re-writing history to suit |
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Post by viking55 on Feb 17, 2017 19:58:01 GMT
Wonder why the record company opted to release the one that they did? The record company probably thought the song would sound better with Mr Rossi on lead vocals and that it would sell better, at a guess, which makes me wonder if Mr Rossi was actually complying with a record company request,, either way, stil underhand,devious and showed a total lack of consideration to the rest of the band as far as I'm concerned Oh my god Ive. Criticising your hero for being underhand singing the bridge behind Alan's back !! What's the world come to...lol. |
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