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Post by kursaal75 on Jan 7, 2017 11:58:06 GMT
I suppose the BBC thought, put a couple of Quo programmes on to keep the fans happy, when it would of been nice to see a tribute to Rick, by showing clips from the vast catolouge of material they have in their vaults and have Johnnie Walker to narrate it.
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Post by aitchfrossi on Jan 7, 2017 20:22:38 GMT
This will sound slightly bitter and I am sorry for that ...but...why so little coverage on Rick on the total media? He was a Rock God for fifty years! Why do they go on endlessly about Gearge Michael? It makes a mockery of Ricks status...sad for any loss but come on it feels like Ricks death has been swept under the carpet...his fans deserve more than this!
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Post by deliveryofoblivion on Jan 8, 2017 8:08:27 GMT
I could not agree more...Again,i don`t want to sound bitter and twisted..But you can bet your bottom dollar that when someone for example like Elton John Dies.....Its going to be wall to wall coverage and funeral at Westminster Abbey plus national day of mourning.I know its sad when anyone dies and i am not diminishing that fact...but yes....a bit more coverage of Ricks Life would have been the order of the day in my book..not just going on about his drink/drugs/heart attacks either..but mentioning a lot more about all the goodness of the man.......So,am in complete agreement here !..Dare i say it..BBC1 Coverage too....at a time that more than 10 people will see it !!!!!!..Ok,i am bitter and twisted..Sorry Folks..Just gets my back up !!
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Post by mortified on Jan 8, 2017 8:42:32 GMT
I knew as soon as George Michael went, then Rick's moment in any sort of spotlight was over. Just to give you an example of how the BBC have approached it, we sat down on Christmas Eve and watched the BBC News Channel at 8 o'clock to get the report because we'd just sort of sat about in a daze and discussed it up till then. We spent our money and drank our best red wine. He was fifth (and last) in the headline list. Behind Aleppo, the train driver's strike, something about Brexit and some inane drivel about the Royal Family. George Michael on Boxing Day was the main headline. And, if you go to the "obituary" of celebrities who passed away in 2016 on the BBC News website, you will see 34 pictures of those who died followed by a list of others. These others are called "notables"; Rick is 26th on that list. That puts him effectively at number 60 in the BBC order of importance. Quite surprising when you consider how many times the band pop up on BBC doing VE celebrations, royal birthdays, charity mega-events, BBC "parties in the park" and all that stuff. I'm sorry, but a mention or two for "the blonde one" from Status Quo just doesn't cut it for me. Shameful. Frankly, it sums up Quo's coverage by the British media over 50 years in a nutshell.
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Post by johnnymain on Jan 8, 2017 12:23:08 GMT
This will sound slightly bitter and I am sorry for that ...but...why so little coverage on Rick on the total media? He was a Rock God for fifty years! Why do they go on endlessly about Gearge Michael? It makes a mockery of Ricks status...sad for any loss but come on it feels like Ricks death has been swept under the carpet...his fans deserve more than this! There wasn't much coverage of Lemmy or Glenn Freys deaths in the mainstream media either.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jan 8, 2017 12:27:15 GMT
I knew as soon as George Michael went, then Rick's moment in any sort of spotlight was over. Just to give you an example of how the BBC have approached it, we sat down on Christmas Eve and watched the BBC News Channel at 8 o'clock to get the report because we'd just sort of sat about in a daze and discussed it up till then. We spent our money and drank our best red wine. He was fifth (and last) in the headline list. Behind Aleppo, the train driver's strike, something about Brexit and some inane drivel about the Royal Family. George Michael on Boxing Day was the main headline. And, if you go to the "obituary" of celebrities who passed away in 2016 on the BBC News website, you will see 34 pictures of those who died followed by a list of others. These others are called "notables"; Rick is 26th on that list. That puts him effectively at number 60 in the BBC order of importance. Quite surprising when you consider how many times the band pop up on BBC doing VE celebrations, royal birthdays, charity mega-events, BBC "parties in the park" and all that stuff. I'm sorry, but a mention or two for "the blonde one" from Status Quo just doesn't cut it for me. Shameful. Frankly, it sums up Quo's coverage by the British media over 50 years in a nutshell. I did say as much on FB on Xmas day but got shouted at in some of the FB groups. Though I was pleased that my non Quo fan Friends were posting RIP Rick and one of them said it's a bit OTT about George Michael, everyone has forgotten that Rick Parfitt from Status Quo died yesterday. BIB still not used to writing that.
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Post by problemshalved on Jan 8, 2017 15:25:59 GMT
Reality is, whether we like it or not, GM was a global star and Quo aren't, so he is bound to get more coverage.
Let's not forget we are a rather narrow niche group of fans. Loyal, which is how they have kept going so long, but nothing in terms of size compared to GM.
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Post by taximan2002 on Jan 8, 2017 16:22:45 GMT
And, if you go to the "obituary" of celebrities who passed away in 2016 on the BBC News website, you will see 34 pictures of those who died followed by a list of others. These others are called "notables"; Rick is 26th on that list. That puts him effectively at number 60 in the BBC order of importance. Frankly, it sums up Quo's coverage by the British media over 50 years in a nutshell. On a Sunday night at work I'll always listen to Radio4's Last Word programme, to hear the obituaries of notable and famous folk who've passed away in the previous week. With Christmas Day and New Year's Day being in a Sunday the programme wasn't on so a couple of days ago I looked at iplayer to check who was on the shows I missed. Not that I was too surprised but I was quite angry that Rick wasn't there at all...
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Post by snakelady on Jan 9, 2017 9:22:52 GMT
Reality is, whether we like it or not, GM was a global star and Quo aren't, so he is bound to get more coverage. Let's not forget we are a rather narrow niche group of fans. Loyal, which is how they have kept going so long, but nothing in terms of size compared to GM. That's not it, IMO. Rick was definitely more of a 'global star' than George Michael concerning his standing as a musician. (Do I have to quote records sold and suchlike stuff here ? ) What made all the difference for media coverage was - GM produced a lot more headlines and stories for the yellow press, so he he was much more of a media star - which seems to be the most important these days. Quo mainly play gigs and record albums, but otherwise have been boring for decades from a media POV. Even his death has been 'boring' - a hospital infection .. what's there to write about ? It's a very cynical business and 'boring' doesn't sell.
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Jan 9, 2017 9:58:09 GMT
Reality is, whether we like it or not, GM was a global star and Quo aren't, so he is bound to get more coverage. Let's not forget we are a rather narrow niche group of fans. Loyal, which is how they have kept going so long, but nothing in terms of size compared to GM. That's not it, IMO. Rick was definitely more of a 'global star' than George Michael concerning his standing as a musician. (Do I have to quote records sold and suchlike stuff here ? ) What made all the difference for media coverage was - GM produced a lot more headlines and stories for the yellow press, so he he was much more of a media star - which seems to be the most important these days. Quo mainly play gigs and record albums, but otherwise have been boring for decades from a media POV. Even his death has been 'boring' - a hospital infection .. what's there to write about ? It's a very cynical business and 'boring' doesn't sell. Global doesn't count, USA does. George Michael was famous in America. Quo never cracked the US, neither musically nor notoriety wise. George Michael was a singing star on American Idol.
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Post by mortified on Jan 9, 2017 10:01:27 GMT
As soon as you become well known in America - especially if you're British - then that swings it in terms of media coverage. "Global" effectively means big in America.
I think the BBC did Rick a disservice on Christmas Eve. I wouldn't have expected any more coverage than that but given the general lack of news on the day, they still gave him little more than a passing mention. Having said that, no one was speaking to the media. The BBC could only get hold of Jeff Rich on the phone for any sort of comment.
All water under the bridge now. It still irritates though.
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Post by kursaal75 on Jan 9, 2017 10:08:36 GMT
I requested 'Mystery Song' to be played on Johnnie walker's Radio 2, Sunday afternoon show, Sounds Of The Seventies yesterday, his first live programme, since the death of Rick, but alas, he never played it and never mentioned his passing during his programme. Last year, when David Bowie died Johnnie played 7 or 8 of Bowie tracks. Putting it in prospective, the name Status Quo, the band is more famous then any individual playing in it.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Jan 9, 2017 12:00:37 GMT
I requested 'Mystery Song' to be played on Johnnie walker's Radio 2, Sunday afternoon show, Sounds Of The Seventies yesterday, his first live programme, since the death of Rick, but alas, he never played it and never mentioned his passing during his programme. Last year, when David Bowie died Johnnie played 7 or 8 of Bowie tracks. Putting it in prospective, the name Status Quo, the band is more famous then any individual playing in it. I do think that is part of the situation (in terms of coverage). One member of a band died, and the band have been carrying on without him for 6 months anyway and will probably continue to carry on without him for a few more years. David Bowie and George Michael are individuals, and their touring/new albums dies with them. People know the name of individual singers far better than they do the names of band members. Status Quo is well known, but Rick Parfitt and Francis Rossi less well. Other points are valid too; the way the media treat Quo, how popular Quo are outside their fanbase, and Quo never cracking America.
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Post by Quoincidence on Jan 9, 2017 12:05:48 GMT
BBC saying it was down to how quickly they can get hold of footage... Live At The N.E.C, I'm sure they'd have the rights to what they originally broadcast, Glastonbury etc... They probably wouldn't have done anything at all if someone didn't complain
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Post by deliveryofoblivion on Jan 9, 2017 16:31:13 GMT
Tuned in o BBC Coventry and Warwickshire Radio this afternoon at 10 Mins TO 3.00 .the Presenter was talking about his Xmas..First show back i think..He said ..and of course,Such terrible News about the passing Of George Michael.....Cannot believe he is not with us anymore..Followed by playing Careless Whisper.Now,i wasn`t listening Before this time..May be he had mentioned Rick Parfitt..But i doubt it.I went on the CWR Website in order to e mail the studio,which you think would be easy....Could i find the link..Could i Heck as like !!
Shoulda used FB i suppose..To say.."Don`t Forget Rick Parfitt"..But the moment was gone,time i`d thought about it all.....Ah well....!!!
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Post by snakelady on Jan 9, 2017 18:14:00 GMT
That's not it, IMO. Rick was definitely more of a 'global star' than George Michael concerning his standing as a musician. (Do I have to quote records sold and suchlike stuff here ? ) What made all the difference for media coverage was - GM produced a lot more headlines and stories for the yellow press, so he he was much more of a media star - which seems to be the most important these days. Quo mainly play gigs and record albums, but otherwise have been boring for decades from a media POV. Even his death has been 'boring' - a hospital infection .. what's there to write about ? It's a very cynical business and 'boring' doesn't sell. Global doesn't count, USA does. George Michael was famous in America. Quo never cracked the US, neither musically nor notoriety wise. George Michael was a singing star on American Idol. Yep, success in the States seems to be a sine qua non these days. When did we stop to look at (Middle-)Europe first ? You've got a few British media darlings, who seem to merely be famous for being famous - to quote our Rhino. So as long as the stories sell, they're possibly even forgiven to not originate from the USA. Being young and good-looking (and showing it) is always helpful as well. Rick and Francis are basically lacking all that (at least for a good few decades). - Oh yeah, and no political statement a la 'I'm concerned about climate change/the starving in Africa/..' either. Merely trying to entertain people - how can they be taken serious ?
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Post by deliveryofoblivion on Jan 10, 2017 7:59:29 GMT
Was driving my wife to her weight watchers club..7.25 pm,Mon eve...Turned Radio 2 on in car..The chap who does the "Blues" show was playing 2 in a row..Rain...original 70`s version....and Acoustic,Bela Vista man..Which i actually had never heard,as i have not purchased the cd yet.....At the end,he announced..playing both in memory of the late Rick Parfitt...Plus a few other bits...(One bit being Bela Visa Man includes the Current bass player..John Edwards)..Thought that was funny,the way he said i..If not true of course !!
BUT AT LEAST..It was in memory,of Rick Parfitt !!!
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Post by problemshalved on Jan 10, 2017 8:58:45 GMT
The guy who does the Blues show is Paul Jones, who is the greatest Blues Harmonica player in the world. Go see The Blues Band they tour regularly and also he does a Harmonica pus Acoustic set with Dave Kelly(also in The Blues Band)
He still has unbelievable vocal range for his age as well (75 in February)
Go see him you won't regret
Ps he originally was invited to be vocalist with the Stones before Mick Jagger but chose Manfred Mann mmm
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Post by deliveryofoblivion on Jan 10, 2017 9:12:42 GMT
Cheers..That`s interesting to know..Of course..i have heard of Paul Jones....But didn`t realise it was him on radio 2..Thanks again for info !!
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Post by problemshalved on Jan 10, 2017 11:25:21 GMT
Great radio show as well, with all the best in Blues all chosen by him
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Post by mortified on Jan 10, 2017 12:02:31 GMT
I didn't actually appreciate that Paul Jones was still on the go. I haven't seen The Blues Band since the 70's! I also had their first album which was called "Bootleg" or some such and was an all white sleeve as I recall - like a bootleg. Manifested out of McGuiness Flint as well I think. Anyway.... I would contest Paul Jones being the best harmonica player. Bit of a Jagger man myself
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Post by deliveryofoblivion on Jan 10, 2017 12:25:11 GMT
I always thought of him,as that Oldish sounding bloke on Radio 2 on a Mon early evening..never actually heard him mention his name on the show...for the 10 to 15 mins i hear it !!..Need to keep the dial untouched !..Great hearing Belavista man though....Think i`ll buy the whole CD.have heard first half is very good...Someone told me they thought second half was weaker....But anyway...Great He played a little tribute to Rick,afer all the George Michael stuff....Goodness,i even played a GM tribute on my Hospital Radio show....All be it to a very small audience Lol !!! (And Rick Too..Little White Lies)...So i`m something of a Hypocrite really !! I refuse to play Elton John though Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Dead or Alive)
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Post by problemshalved on Jan 11, 2017 8:26:05 GMT
Go see him with Dave Kelly where I think you will change your mind about who is best on Harmonica. Unbelievable how he does continual Harmonica phrases whilst singing. His breathing to do that must be amazing Example attached youtu.be/caPPCl1HSMg
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