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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Dec 26, 2016 12:04:08 GMT
From Francis Rossi
I was not ready for this. Rick Parfitt had been a part of my story for fifty years. Without doubt the longest relationship of my life: this was also the most satisfying, frustrating, creative and fluid. From those early days, we worked together to create the Quo sound, look and hits. We spent years on the road, on the stage and in the studio, rarely far from each other, honing what we did.
We were a team, a double act, a partnership and yet also two very different people, handling the pressures of growing older, constant touring, dealing with success and keeping the creative flame burning in different ways. He developed his own sound, his own style, casually inspiring a generation of players.
Rick was the archetypal rock star, one of the originals, he never lost his joy, his mischievous edge and his penchant for living life at high speed, high volume, high risk. His life was never boring, he was louder and faster and more carefree than the rest of us. There were any number of incidents along the way, times when he strayed into areas of true danger and yet still losing him now is still a shock. Even in a year that has claimed so many of our best, including now George Michael, Rick Parfitt stands out. I was not ready for this.
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Post by smokie on Dec 26, 2016 12:12:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 12:22:48 GMT
That genuinely brought a little tear to my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2016 13:05:48 GMT
From Francis Rossi I was not ready for this. Rick Parfitt had been a part of my story for fifty years. Without doubt the longest relationship of my life: this was also the most satisfying, frustrating, creative and fluid. From those early days, we worked together to create the Quo sound, look and hits. We spent years on the road, on the stage and in the studio, rarely far from each other, honing what we did. We were a team, a double act, a partnership and yet also two very different people, handling the pressures of growing older, constant touring, dealing with success and keeping the creative flame burning in different ways. He developed his own sound, his own style, casually inspiring a generation of players. Rick was the archetypal rock star, one of the originals, he never lost his joy, his mischievous edge and his penchant for living life at high speed, high volume, high risk. His life was never boring, he was louder and faster and more carefree than the rest of us. There were any number of incidents along the way, times when he strayed into areas of true danger and yet still losing him now is still a shock. Even in a year that has claimed so many of our best, including now George Michael, Rick Parfitt stands out. I was not ready for this.
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Post by problemshalved on Dec 26, 2016 14:27:12 GMT
Very nice tribute
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Post by Sam on Dec 26, 2016 16:28:59 GMT
"I was not ready for this"... I think he speaks for all of us there.
It's tough when you lose your heroes, but losing a friend and musical partner after 50 years together must be devastating.
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Post by aitchfrossi on Dec 26, 2016 18:11:42 GMT
Francis must be devastated...I am and only knew Rick as part of my favourite band ever but still feel like I have lost a friend
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Post by aitchfrossi on Dec 26, 2016 18:18:07 GMT
😥😥
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Post by Rick Roper on Dec 26, 2016 22:27:13 GMT
This is a very moving message. I honestly thought that Francis would have difficulty in making a comment, due to the differences between Rick and himself in recent years, and the possibility of vilification by fans whatever he said. I think, and hope, that any ill-feeling between Francis and Rick has been laid to rest now. It will have hit Francis like a ton of bricks, as it has us all... No more the "Yeah, yeah, another scrape, he'll be OK, don't worry..." Rick has now passed over to the other side, and there's no chance of making up, discussing things, having a laugh or anything else. I also hope that Rick's passing away may once again bring Francis, Alan and John together as friends, if not as musicians. Life really is precious, and it most certainly is too short.
Rick Roper.
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Post by craydarr on Dec 27, 2016 8:14:40 GMT
I think you can tell by the tone of the statement that it has hit him hard and by the wording you can tell its Fran speaking, no syrupy, over glossed schmaltz.
I do think that the problems between Rick & Frame have been over stated and that they probably both just needed time away from each other to do what THEY wanted. (not that I know).
But there probably are some regrets on his part now but I hope Rick Roper is right when he says :
"I also hope that Rick's passing away may once again bring Francis, Alan and John together as friends"
Nice to hear Frans words.
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Post by aitchfrossi on Dec 27, 2016 22:49:48 GMT
Best mates for that many years ... you have moments of disagreement...anguish...irritation...but that's okay because best mates are always there for each other...and always put up with each other's irritating ways...that's what real best mates do....Francis will be devastated....my best mate of 60 years can irritate the hell out of me as I can her but we know each other inside out and know we can be totally ourselves with each other and that we are always first there in a crisis
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 8:47:49 GMT
His statement comes across to me as quite formal, almost business like in places, I don't doubt his personal grief, but think he could have ended his statement in better words, maybe like a thank you, will miss you etc Ive P. Can you please do something else with your spare time than telling us here what other people should or not should do/say!!
Rick is dead, ..
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Post by snakelady on Dec 31, 2016 9:28:32 GMT
His statement comes across to me as quite formal, almost business like in places, I don't doubt his personal grief, but think he could have ended his statement in better words, maybe like a thank you, will miss you etc They're right Ive: Don't you think the words you suggest would've sound hollow and formal ? Francis expressed himself the best he could and 'I was not ready for this' basically says a lot more than some standard phrase would've done. You've been hit hard by Rick's death, but you can be very sure, that Francis has been hit harder. You have difficulties to cope, so what do you think he has ? This is not the time and place to criticise anybody for not getting a message perfectly worded ..
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Post by snakelady on Jan 9, 2017 18:35:06 GMT
They're right Ive: Don't you think the words you suggest would've sound hollow and formal ? Francis expressed himself the best he could and 'I was not ready for this' basically says a lot more than some standard phrase would've done. You've been hit hard by Rick's death, but you can be very sure, that Francis has been hit harder. You have difficulties to cope, so what do you think he has ? This is not the time and place to criticise anybody for not getting a message perfectly worded .. Look at how Rhino signed off his statement, big difference, to me, and full credit to him, but then again, based on what you state above, I suppose you find Rhino's ending comment hollow and formal, I know which ending I prefer & which I think is more apt. I see it the other way round, but I won't criticise Rhino for the way he expresses his grief, just because I'd have done it differently. Personally I very much prefer Francis' statement and am not that much touched by Rhino's. BUT It's obvious that both are shocked and devastated. Both struggle for words as really there are no words to express how they must've felt when writing their statements. Both would probably have very much preferred to remain silent and only wrote because they knew they had to - for the fans, for the media, .. To pick one of them and tell him 'oh, but that's not good enough, your colleague has done better' is so wrong and on so many levels. Do you always get everything so perfect that everybody loves it equally ?? (don't answer - it's a rhetorical question)
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Post by snakelady on Jan 11, 2017 8:06:44 GMT
Personally I very much prefer Francis' statement and am not that much touched by Rhino's. Vice versa for me There's a BUT following for me though, that's why I'd prefer it if you quoted my whole post in this case.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Jan 11, 2017 14:12:33 GMT
I watched HelloQuo over Christmas, and I also watched the extras disc. Coming after Rick's death, I was touched by the joint Francis and Rick interview on the extras, and it occured to me just how much history they had together and how much Francis will be affected by Rick's death whatever their relationship was like over the last few months/years. People who have fallen out (and I'm not saying Rick & Francis had) can still be massively affected and saddened by the death of the other person, in fact often more so if things weren't great between you when they departed.
Things happen in a relationship, a partnership when 2 very different persaonalities have been together for a very long time, the difficulties, the differences of opinions, the arguments, that's all normal stuff. I reckon that almost every Quo fan will be able to think of a long term relationship in their own life where they don't get on with the person as well as they would like, or they have fallen out with them and don't speak at the moment. This is true for anyone who was ever in a long term relationship (or marriage) that ended.
So people shouldn't really say that Francis has done anything wrong. He conducted his relationship with Rick as he saw best at the time, as Rick did with Francis (and I'm sure they would both have regrets about their behaviour sometimes). We didn't live their relationship, we don't know the details of their personalities, we don't know what each did that annoyed the other and frustrated each other. But at the same time, Francis will have a thousand different memories of Rick, a lot of them good, a lot of them funny. That interview just reminded me how well they learned to cope with their differences, live with each other on the road, the good times, bad times, successes and failures that they live through. The fact that they managed to keep it all together (at least up until Rick's heart attack), is a credit to both of them. The 24th December was the end of all that, the end of a long chapter. We don't know how Francis feels, we can't tell him what to say.....but you don't live through all that without being profoundly affected by the persons death, however well you cope with it. I'm sure Francis will be fine because that's how he comes across, but it will still have affected him in many ways....he just doesn't often show it (that's his personality). Hopefully the good memories will come to the surface and swamp most of the bad memories (that's what happened to me when my Dad died).
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Post by smokie on Jan 11, 2017 14:45:52 GMT
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Post by snakelady on Jan 12, 2017 6:44:03 GMT
There's a BUT following for me though, that's why I'd prefer it if you quoted my whole post in this case. I quoted all I needed to My post was not negative towards Rhino, but with just the one sentence it could be seen as.
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Post by snakelady on Jan 13, 2017 9:41:25 GMT
My post was not negative towards Rhino, but with just the one sentence it could be seen as. Never said it was, all I have commented on is that you preferred Rossi's statement over Rhino's, to be honest, I would expect you to. That's merely to do with the lyrics of TIM he quoted and which I find a bit shallow and superficial to describe a person. It's OK for song lyrics, but I'd assume the real Rick was a bit more than that. But then Rhino will have been shocked and lost for words at the moment of writing, so I can understand why he'd quote them .. .
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Post by snakelady on Jan 14, 2017 8:55:54 GMT
That's merely to do with the lyrics of TIM he quoted and which I find a bit shallow and superficial to describe a person. It's OK for song lyrics, but I'd assume the real Rick was a bit more than that. But then Rhino will have been shocked and lost for words at the moment of writing, so I can understand why he'd quote them .. . The song was actually written about him, so your point is once again meaningless There is no point I'm making and I know that Rhino wrote the song about him. I just happen to believe that the lyrics of a song can't do a person justice.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Jan 14, 2017 9:22:29 GMT
I watched HelloQuo over Christmas, and I also watched the extras disc. Coming after Rick's death, I was touched by the joint Francis and Rick interview on the extras, and it occured to me just how much history they had together and how much Francis will be affected by Rick's death whatever their relationship was like over the last few months/years. People who have fallen out (and I'm not saying Rick & Francis had) can still be massively affected and saddened by the death of the other person, in fact often more so if things weren't great between you when they departed. Things happen in a relationship, a partnership when 2 very different persaonalities have been together for a very long time, the difficulties, the differences of opinions, the arguments, that's all normal stuff. I reckon that almost every Quo fan will be able to think of a long term relationship in their own life where they don't get on with the person as well as they would like, or they have fallen out with them and don't speak at the moment. This is true for anyone who was ever in a long term relationship (or marriage) that ended. So people shouldn't really say that Francis has done anything wrong. He conducted his relationship with Rick as he saw best at the time, as Rick did with Francis (and I'm sure they would both have regrets about their behaviour sometimes). We didn't live their relationship, we don't know the details of their personalities, we don't know what each did that annoyed the other and frustrated each other. But at the same time, Francis will have a thousand different memories of Rick, a lot of them good, a lot of them funny. That interview just reminded me how well they learned to cope with their differences, live with each other on the road, the good times, bad times, successes and failures that they live through. The fact that they managed to keep it all together (at least up until Rick's heart attack), is a credit to both of them. The 24th December was the end of all that, the end of a long chapter. We don't know how Francis feels, we can't tell him what to say.....but you don't live through all that without being profoundly affected by the persons death, however well you cope with it. I'm sure Francis will be fine because that's how he comes across, but it will still have affected him in many ways....he just doesn't often show it (that's his personality). Hopefully the good memories will come to the surface and swamp most of the bad memories (that's what happened to me when my Dad died). Yes Ade and Rik had not fallen out exactly but had a difference of opinion on what they should do together. Ade started a new series of Bottom with Rik but pulled out because he was not finding it enjoyable. There may have been some arguments over that next thing we know Rik dropped down dead. Ade was shattered by that and still finds it hard to talk about Rik.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 10:38:32 GMT
Does it really matter who wrote the best things about Rick... some people can talk about emotions but some people find it difficult to put down in type how they are feeling about any certain situation.... me being a prime example.........
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