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Post by smokie on Dec 1, 2016 9:59:02 GMT
www.statusquo.co.uk/Scroll down the official site to read press release. Richie to continue to fill in and Aquostic shows already booked.
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Dec 1, 2016 14:10:07 GMT
So NOT the end of the Electrics!
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Post by gogs on Dec 1, 2016 14:11:25 GMT
Kind of what we might have thought would happen if Francis feels the new dynamic is less knackering than otherwise might have been. The "new territories" bit is interesting. Any thoughts? :confused4:
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Post by snakelady on Dec 1, 2016 18:06:01 GMT
So NOT the end of the Electrics! Well, it doesn't make a difference for most of us - the tour is simply extended to foreign lands and sundry shores .. smilie_water_002 Additional tour dates have been added before .. |
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Dec 1, 2016 18:35:03 GMT
So NOT the end of the Electrics! Well, it doesn't make a difference for most of us - the tour is simply extended to foreign lands and sundry shores .. smilie_water_002 Additional tour dates have been added before .. Makes a mockery of Francis saying there wouldn't be any more electrics after 2016. Rather takes the gilt off the gingerbread. So I won't regret too much just having found out that I am unable to go to Birmingham now. |
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Post by Isaac Ryan on Dec 1, 2016 18:39:10 GMT
From a personal point of view it gives me a chance of a gig next year.
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Post by gogs on Dec 1, 2016 20:23:18 GMT
From a personal point of view it gives me a chance of a gig next year. Same here; if the chance arises I'll take it. Missed out this year for a whole host of reasons.  |
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Post by smokie on Dec 1, 2016 22:15:41 GMT
The "new territories" bit is interesting. Any thoughts? :confused4: Haven't a clue really. In Europe, I guess that will mean countries not included in the original tour? Perhaps France and Spain? Would it be viable to play electric shows in Australia whilst they are there for the Aquostic boat thing? South America? Apparently, the band were very warmly received in Brazil and Mexico, particularly the latter on the Heavy Traffic World Tour. Might not be viable though, might be more lucrative staying in Europe. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 22:17:46 GMT
The "new territories" bit is interesting. Any thoughts? :confused4: Haven't a clue really. In Europe, I guess that will mean countries not included in the original tour? Perhaps France and Spain? Would it be viable to play electric shows in Australia whilst they are there for the Aquostic boat thing? South America? Apparently, the band were very warmly received in Brazil and Mexico, particularly the latter on the Heavy Traffic World Tour. Might not be viable though, might be more lucrative staying in Europe. Oz was my immediate thought. |
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Post by quolion on Dec 2, 2016 7:31:09 GMT
Spain, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, Finland and Russia comes to mind... and maybe more gigs in Germany and France. I guess Australia or South America is too expensive and a financial suicide....
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Post by snakelady on Dec 2, 2016 8:22:35 GMT
Well, it doesn't make a difference for most of us - the tour is simply extended to foreign lands and sundry shores .. smilie_water_002 Additional tour dates have been added before .. Makes a mockery of Francis saying there wouldn't be any more electrics after 2016. Rather takes the gilt off the gingerbread. So I won't regret too much just having found out that I am unable to go to Birmingham now. Not so long ago they did a once, never to be repeated reunion tour .. and then another the following year - That was far more of a mockery and even the reasons that were given were the same. And guess what ? FF fans weren't upset about that, but instead found excuses and talked away the finality of the statement and are still wanting more. IMVHO it either applies to both - or none. In fact the FF were even worse, as they played the exact same venues again in the UK, whereas it looks like they'll now merely take the tour to places they hadn't planned to go to before. And I've got to say, the statement about overwhelming success is right - they played 15 of the biggest arenas we have and managed to sell out or fill extremely well all of them. Even on their EOTR tour in 84 they added the Milton Keynes bowl for the same reasons. So to be fair, the idea to extend the tour this time too, is understandable.  |
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Dec 2, 2016 10:13:19 GMT
Makes a mockery of Francis saying there wouldn't be any more electrics after 2016. Rather takes the gilt off the gingerbread. So I won't regret too much just having found out that I am unable to go to Birmingham now. Not so long ago they did a once, never to be repeated reunion tour .. and then another the following year - That was far more of a mockery and even the reasons that were given were the same. And guess what ? FF fans weren't upset about that, but instead found excuses and talked away the finality of the statement and are still wanting more. IMVHO it either applies to both - or none. In fact the FF were even worse, as they played the exact same venues again in the UK, whereas it looks like they'll now merely take the tour to places they hadn't planned to go to before. And I've got to say, the statement about overwhelming success is right - they played 15 of the biggest arenas we have and managed to sell out or fill extremely well all of them. Even on their EOTR tour in 84 they added the Milton Keynes bowl for the same reasons. So to be fair, the idea to extend the tour this time too, is understandable. But for the FF tours they did not inflate the ticket prices for so-called 'premium' seats, just seated or standing tickets. The only reason many fans booked multiple UK venues this year was because it was billed as the END and that was what increased the sales. I paid for a 'premium' seat which was further from the stage than the one I had last year at the general rate. The only thing special about it was the cost. I had considered booking more than one venue this year and I am very glad now that I didn't. |
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Post by snakelady on Dec 2, 2016 11:25:06 GMT
Not so long ago they did a once, never to be repeated reunion tour .. and then another the following year - That was far more of a mockery and even the reasons that were given were the same. And guess what ? FF fans weren't upset about that, but instead found excuses and talked away the finality of the statement and are still wanting more. IMVHO it either applies to both - or none. In fact the FF were even worse, as they played the exact same venues again in the UK, whereas it looks like they'll now merely take the tour to places they hadn't planned to go to before. And I've got to say, the statement about overwhelming success is right - they played 15 of the biggest arenas we have and managed to sell out or fill extremely well all of them. Even on their EOTR tour in 84 they added the Milton Keynes bowl for the same reasons. So to be fair, the idea to extend the tour this time too, is understandable. But for the FF tours they did not inflate the ticket prices for so-called 'premium' seats, just seated or standing tickets. The only reason many fans booked multiple UK venues this year was because it was billed as the END and that was what increased the sales. I paid for a 'premium' seat which was further from the stage than the one I had last year at the general rate. The only thing special about it was the cost. I had considered booking more than one venue this year and I am very glad now that I didn't. The thing is, Ann, that as far as know the band aren't responsible for ticket prices and additionally you've got two support acts on the bill this time and a big one amongst them too (I'd love to see REO Speedwagon). Both bands will want getting paid too, so that would lead to an increase in prices as well. IMO compared to other big acts, Quo ticket prices are still reasonable (I'm aware it's not helpful for those, who can barely/not afford them though). What I hate and think is pure promoter's greed are the Golden Circle tickets. I refrained from buying those, despite being able to afford them easily, but this needs boycotting ! 107 |
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Post by gogs on Dec 2, 2016 11:48:22 GMT
The thing is, Ann, that as far as know the band aren't responsible for ticket prices and additionally you've got two support acts on the bill this time and a big one amongst them too (I'd love to see REO Speedwagon). Both bands will want getting paid too, so that would lead to an increase in prices as well. IMO compared to other big acts, Quo ticket prices are still reasonable (I'm aware it's not helpful for those, who can barely/not afford them though). What I hate and think is pure promoter's greed are the Golden Circle tickets. I refrained from buying those, despite being able to afford them easily, but this needs boycotting ! 107 Support acts usually buy on to a tour, and even if they didnt, I paid my ticket price to see Quo, Re the highlighted text: I thought you'd got a refund? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2016 22:12:54 GMT
Not so long ago they did a once, never to be repeated reunion tour .. and then another the following year - That was far more of a mockery and even the reasons that were given were the same. And guess what ? FF fans weren't upset about that, but instead found excuses and talked away the finality of the statement and are still wanting more. IMVHO it either applies to both - or none. In fact the FF were even worse, as they played the exact same venues again in the UK, whereas it looks like they'll now merely take the tour to places they hadn't planned to go to before. And I've got to say, the statement about overwhelming success is right - they played 15 of the biggest arenas we have and managed to sell out or fill extremely well all of them. Even on their EOTR tour in 84 they added the Milton Keynes bowl for the same reasons. So to be fair, the idea to extend the tour this time too, is understandable. Now where do I start with the above !  Granny actually explains it far better than I could No doubt had Rick been playing they'd have sold out 5 nights on the bounce. Can you imagine if it''d been the FF, they'd have sold 15 billion tickets. Oh, hold on............... |
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Post by snakelady on Dec 3, 2016 8:57:10 GMT
No doubt had Rick been playing they'd have sold out 5 nights on the bounce. Can you imagine if it''d been the FF, they'd have sold 15 billion tickets. Oh, hold on............... 1. Probably not , but it would had been Status Quo as the 2 key elements were there 2. LOL, again no, but at least the FF wouldnt have struggled to sell 700 tickets would they now ?! It was merely a 30+min. set and only the most diehard fans would consider to travel more than 30min. for this .. (I'd not drive to say Stuttgart for it). .. and Quo have just proven that they can sell 7000+ tickets for every single night of a 15 date tour. Would they have sold more with Rick ? - Yes, but probably merely a relatively irrelevant number. And you can't do more than sell out a venue, which they did in various places. |
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Post by snakelady on Dec 3, 2016 9:26:21 GMT
Stuttgart has a 7000 capacity when there's a stage at one end (blocks behind and right beside the stage can't be sold in that case. On the other hand, during the tennis tournament all seats are sold, but naturally no standing on the floor, which means different capacities for different types of layouts in use. The Quo gig was sold out for its layout, apart from a handful Golden Circle tickets.
Same goes for various other venues. Only the really big ones 12k+ capacity didn't sell out, but with crowds of up to 9000+ were very well attended too. There's no need to talk down a tour that was a resounding success just because Rick wasn't there. Nobody where we were stood wondered why he wasn't there - and Francis did introduce Ritchie.
Maybe try to see it like this: It was the music and the reputation that the band built up with Rick, that made people go see them one last time. In a way he was there - Rick co-wrote Rain, Again And Again, Creepin' Up On You ..
Many can play the music, if not to the same standard, but merely a handful max. wrote it. So Rick does live on in his music ..
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Post by snakelady on Dec 3, 2016 10:20:18 GMT
Stuttgart has a 7000 capacity when there's a stage at one end (blocks behind and right beside the stage can't be sold in that case. On the other hand, during the tennis tournament all seats are sold, but naturally no standing on the floor, which means different capacities for different types of layouts in use. The Quo gig was sold out for its layout, apart from a handful Golden Circle tickets. Same goes for various other venues. Only the really big ones 12k+ capacity didn't sell out, but with crowds of up to 9000+ were very well attended too. There's no need to talk down a tour that was a resounding success just because Rick wasn't there. Nobody where we were stood wondered why he wasn't there - and Francis did introduce Ritchie. Maybe try to see it like this: It was the music and the reputation that the band built up with Rick, that made people go see them one last time. In a way he was there - Rick co-wrote Rain, Again And Again, Creepin' Up On You .. Many can play the music, if not to the same standard, but merely a handful max. wrote it. So Rick does live on in his music .. So you are saying that the German venues had opened all the areas they could have had open for the Quo gigs, ?, the only areas curtained off where areas that wouldnt had been available anyway ? I said some yes, but not the really big (12k+) ones. I'm not talking the tour down, I know for this year they had to complete the schedule or be sued, what I'm saying is that I wonder how many would had bought tickets had they had known at the time that Rick wouldnt be playing, plus, how many who had already bought tickets would had asked for a refund had Quo's management made it widely known they would refund with no Rick, this info should have been posted on Quo's official site. We simply won't know, but nobody left the venue unhappy, I'm quite sure of that. But yes, management handled the refunds very badly. Maybe more would've hesitated to go had it not been their last chance to see the band play an electric gig. All speculation of course.As a side issue, I also dispute Rossi's claim that only 150 sought refunds, I suspect its higher than that, (the figure would have I suspect been even higher had Quo's management made it well know they would refund) In addition what I would also dispute (although it is only folks opinions) is the (to me) ludicrous comments I have seen on various media that its still Status Quo (it cant be with 50% of the two key elements gone), they sounded better than they have in years ( impossible, as nobody can play it like Parfitt does, with all due respect to Richie), I have even read a comment saying Rick wasnt missed FFS!!. Certain songs shouldnt even be in the set, as to even do them without Rick to me, isnt right, they are his songs. You'll have to discuss the ticket issue with Francis, but he could be right for the reason mentioned above. Everything else is personal opinion, which you share with some, but many will have differing opinions - as always. IMO they did sound better and it had nothing to do with Rick. Think the mix is Andy May's responsibility ?
If songs should only be done by the original writers/singers, than all cover bands become obsolete and as soon as the writers are dead it's the end of all live versions ..This is NOT Status Quo its FRQ, and YES I would have said the same thing had it been Rossi unable to tour and Rick carried on, that would have been RPQ as 1 of the key elements wasnt there, although in that instance I would still have attended the gigs. The people who went to the gigs and had a great time did go to a Status Quo gig. Any band name is a brand name and owned by someone. Rick as co-owner definitely agreed they tour as Status Quo - so Status Quo it was.And then we have the "extended LNOTE bit, I wonder if Rossi would have agreed to extend it had Rick been there, (the answer I'm certain is, no he wouldnt!) he seems to have found a new lease of life and regained his appetite for it now dont he ?, remember him saying the gigs were too tiring etc etc, now suddenly they arent !, deja vue back to 84 when he said the same thing,,, then changed his mind once he got rid of Alan. a) speculation and your opinion, I see it differently and b) Francis has always stated that he didn't want to be in the band with Alan anymore. As soon as that obstacle was gone, there was no reason for him to stop. This is not to be confused with what all of them said before the EOTR tour. The public version, so to speak. You won't be that naive to expect them to talk about what's really going on while they're trying to sell a tour ?I feel sorry for all of those who purchased hyped up prices for tickets in the belief that this was gonna be the end of it, even the promo posters were misleading in that they still had Rick on them, and they had plenty of time to change them didnt they ?!, I'm just happy that I managed to get full refunds on all of the tickets I had purchased. They did change the posters, if a little late. The original posters were already printed though I assume (they are usually put up many months ahead) and nobody could've planned for Rick having that heart attack. And maybe they had hoped he'd be back in time ..
The band has always stated that this was the last electric tour, nothing more. So single gigs, festivals - special occasions had been on the cards from the start and with Rick included.
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Post by snakelady on Dec 3, 2016 15:04:20 GMT
ive - to avoid using yet another colour ..: I never said all were sold out - see post further above. The sound we hear at a gig always is the one we get through PA and speakers and at our spot in the venue. It's the only one I can judge too and this year and where I was stood it was great. That's an irrational statement from an emotional POV. You may not like this incarnation of the band, but Status Quo it is. Yes, I'm sure he'd have. Rick came back from a quadruple bypass, so it wasn't completely improbable he'd return again this time from their POV. Recovery periods are relatively unpredictable - I know that from own experience. You shouldn't judge from the few dozens who post on the internet how punters in general felt. I'd be very surprised if as much as a handful of those leaving the gig with us felt conned .. That's merely you wishing Rick was missed, but one doesn't necessarily mean the other. You can miss Rick and still enjoy the gig.
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Post by snakelady on Dec 4, 2016 7:47:18 GMT
Believing the various newspaper reports, part of the arenas were indeed sold out. .. Some - more like one 1 or 2 assume ? And what is it supposed to prove anyway ? 1000s stayed and enjoyed it .. The Amsterdam reports I've read all say it was great. I suppose we'll soon get a report from Rosi for it as well. It is a very successful tour - no doubt about that. You don't like any Quo without Rick - your opinion and fine by me (and your loss) - but to try to talk the tour down and saying it's a failure in many respects is simply and objectively wrong. I won't say anymore on this thread, as you already made up your mind long before the tour even started .. |
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Post by whoaskedyou on Dec 6, 2016 22:27:10 GMT
Rightly or wrongly Francis is enjoying the gigs without Rick....that is my guess....if they are too much why carry on with the electric gigs in 2017?
They could easily just do the strumming stuff till we all die of boredom.
Rick has been seriously ill .....but besides that fact do you think he was really lapping up the Aquostic stuff..not sure his body language was full of joy...plus of course deep down he fancied a bit more FF.
There really seems to be no end..they continue to perform in one form or another...it is up to you ..when you decide that the road has ended...or when you fancy getting back on the wagon again.
At the moment I am in the lay by....broken down..no desire to see them wiithout Rick..good luck to those who are still running with some petrol left.
Peace and love to all..keep right on with your own personal journey.
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Post by snakelady on Dec 7, 2016 8:49:22 GMT
Rightly or wrongly Francis is enjoying the gigs without Rick....that is my guess....if they are too much why carry on with the electric gigs in 2017? They could easily just do the strumming stuff till we all die of boredom. Rick has been seriously ill .....but besides that fact do you think he was really lapping up the Aquostic stuff..not sure his body language was full of joy...plus of course deep down he fancied a bit more FF. There really seems to be no end..they continue to perform in one form or another...it is up to you ..when you decide that the road has ended...or when you fancy getting back on the wagon again. At the moment I am in the lay by....broken down..no desire to see them wiithout Rick..good luck to those who are still running with some petrol left. Peace and love to all..keep right on with your own personal journey. Yep, that's how I see it too. It's not stopping what they do full stop.  Rather a serious winding down - simply far less gigs with the excessive touring gone. Basically what most of their contemporaries, who are still going, do as well. And nothing wrong with that IMO. Might give them the chance (and motivation !) to keep going for a few more years, do the occasional rock gigs as well and might even provide Rick with an option to return .. or they might record a new electric album .. all possible .. I assume they don't even know themselves where this is going to lead. |
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Post by smokie on Dec 7, 2016 17:16:56 GMT
Think that's a really good interview with Richie. I'd never heard of that magazine but I'm glad that you have, thanks for posting the link. That's only the second interview with Richie that I've read and he does seem to be a very decent lad who appreciates how fortunate he has been. Just a Quo fan  |
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