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Post by mikebelgium32 on Nov 22, 2017 13:28:15 GMT
On the other messageboard someone posted a photo of a Rossi interview from 'Het Nieuwsblad', written by Tom De Smet. I couldn't find an online version, so I took the paper version from the library. I translated the sentences between brackets, the quotes from Francis. There are a few translation mistakes, but they seem to be funny to some people, so I don't change them.
Title : ' Ricks death blew new life into the band'
' I stopped using alcohol and coke 30 years ago. Step by step ... hapilly enough, otherwise I wouldn't be here anymore ' ' Rick kept on drinking and smoking heavily. I talked to him about that a lot, but he wasn't able to change his lifestyle, despite his health problems.' ' Ricks death blew new life into this band. There are new people with me on stage with whom it klicks extremely well. Something is happening again, there is magic in the air ... even a new album, I don't exclude.' 'I said we wouldn't perform electric anymore? Well I was convinced about that, then. But not anymore. People change their opinion sometimes. And don't forget: a lot of people make a living out of Status Quo. I feel responsable for my musicians and my personnel. For them, I want to continue.' 'You can't do good for everyone. Some fans blame me that I don' t pay tribute to Rick during the show.But that's who I am. I am a cool frog. Always have been. ... I haven't shed a tear on Ricks death, but that doesn't mean I don't miss him. And I think this is what Rick wanted: Status Quo lives on, even after his death.'
I hope you understand my 'english'. I did my best.
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Post by mortified on Nov 22, 2017 14:34:20 GMT
Cheers. mate. Very much appreciated.
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Post by snakelady on Nov 22, 2017 15:55:20 GMT
Thanks for translating, Mike Where's the scandal though ? Most of it is what we've heard a few times now already. I'm sure that line about Rick's death wasn't like that originally. We mustn't forget, it had been translated from English to Dutch before it even made the newspaper and we don't know how well the journalists command of English is. It probably was rather the usual ' having a young guy in now as a consequence from Rick's death gave the band a new lease of life'. And he's changed his mind ? Now let's all get upset about that, as none of us has ever done it before. *irony off*
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Post by gogs on Nov 22, 2017 19:33:12 GMT
Thanks Mike. No doubt the odd nuance misconstrued, but the central points seem obvious and understandable. I can't see anything remotely controversial in this. No doubt others will. Sweepstake on the first to whinge? Hold that thought, I've just read the shoutbox.....
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Post by pressbutton on Nov 23, 2017 7:15:21 GMT
Thanks Mike. As I thought (and implied on the shoutbox) this does not support a certain person's agenda any more than I thought it would. I did of course get the expected reaction. Although I suggested that your translation may support his view, I really didn't expect it to.
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Post by problemshalved on Nov 23, 2017 8:28:01 GMT
I think too much is made of not shedding a tear. When Ricks death was announced I felt numb rather than emotional as somehow I knew it was coming sooner or later after Turkey, and was prepared for it. Frame knew more than the rest of us about the real medical state of RP, and clearly felt from what he has said previously, that they should have left him to die in Turkey ( he was there so however some may moralise he saw how bad it was and for how long they tried to recover him). Throw into this mix that RP was still not looking after himself (his sepsis was as the result of a drunken fall), it is only natural to have a certain “silly Rick has brought this upon himself” feeling but also only they know the conversations they have had previously about death. One day it may suddenly hit him emotionally without warning but that’s for him in a private moment, but if it doesn’t, it doesn’t make him a bad person.
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Post by mortified on Nov 23, 2017 8:44:37 GMT
The whole Francis doesn't care thing has run it's course. I'm sick hearing it. He feels what he feels - or he doesn't - and I'm not qualified to judge. Neither him or Rick. Not a single one of us is privy to the inner sanctum and the conversations/arguments that take place. Not a single one of us knows what medical state Rick was really in before he finally passed. Or his mental and emotional state for that matter. The bottom line is, the band seem happier and they evidently feel energised. The only decision to be made is mine. Do I carry on with them or don't I? I haven't quite made up my mind. I'll see how I feel after the winter gigs. But whatever I choose to do, I reserve the right to change it.
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 23, 2017 9:19:14 GMT
The whole Francis doesn't care thing has run it's course. I'm sick hearing it. He feels what he feels - or he doesn't - and I'm not qualified to judge. Neither he nor Rick. Not a single one of us is privy to the inner sanctum and the conversations/arguments that take place. Not a single one of us knows what medical state Rick was really in before he finally passed. Or his mental and emotional state for that matter. The bottom line is, the band seem happier and they evidently feel energised. The only decision to be made is mine. Do I carry on with them or don't I? I haven't quite made up my mind. I'll see how I feel after the winter gigs. But whatever I choose to do, I reserve the right to change it. I feel similar, though I don't have an interest to see the band at the moment. Line up is not the problem to me as such it's the static set list, that's really got me fed up over the years. If they made a new album which was a good electric boogie one then I would not have a problem in buying it. Is it Status Quo? well to me it's now Status Quo Mk 8. Similar to how Deep Purple are now Mk 8
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Post by pressbutton on Nov 23, 2017 13:00:09 GMT
The whole Francis doesn't care thing has run it's course. I'm sick hearing it. He feels what he feels - or he doesn't - and I'm not qualified to judge. Neither him or Rick. Not a single one of us is privy to the inner sanctum and the conversations/arguments that take place. Not a single one of us knows what medical state Rick was really in before he finally passed. Or his mental and emotional state for that matter. The bottom line is, the band seem happier and they evidently feel energised. The only decision to be made is mine. Do I carry on with them or don't I? I haven't quite made up my mind. I'll see how I feel after the winter gigs. But whatever I choose to do, I reserve the right to change it. I agree with you mortified. I got completely sick of hearing the "Rick is a God, Rossi is Satan personified" argument from a certain source. We all knew his view, anything that did not fit with that was rubbished and the person vilified, and it was getting much too personal. Everyone is different, I personally am going to see them in Bournemouth in 9 days time and will probably enjoy the gig, just as I have a few others since I first saw them in 2002 (late starter!). If others don't want to go that's their decision, but don't call me stupid, delusional or anything else just because my view differs from theirs. I happen to be perfectly sane, I have an IQ of 124 and a second class honours degree!
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Post by mortified on Nov 23, 2017 13:20:13 GMT
The whole Francis doesn't care thing has run it's course. I'm sick hearing it. He feels what he feels - or he doesn't - and I'm not qualified to judge. Neither him or Rick. Not a single one of us is privy to the inner sanctum and the conversations/arguments that take place. Not a single one of us knows what medical state Rick was really in before he finally passed. Or his mental and emotional state for that matter. The bottom line is, the band seem happier and they evidently feel energised. The only decision to be made is mine. Do I carry on with them or don't I? I haven't quite made up my mind. I'll see how I feel after the winter gigs. But whatever I choose to do, I reserve the right to change it. ....I have an IQ of 124 and a second class honours degree! Smart ar$e
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Post by pressbutton on Nov 26, 2017 9:26:25 GMT
....I have an IQ of 124 and a second class honours degree! Smart ar$e Tee hee!
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Post by smokie on Nov 26, 2017 10:58:00 GMT
A bit late to the party I suppose but..... I've been away for a week and had limited access to the MB (phone only, forgot my glasses ) and I'm not surprised that we are now one member down. I honestly feel that the departed one could have been a genuinely positive presence around here. For instance, he was very knowledgeable regarding bootlegs and I think he helped some on here in that regard. The creation of threads was a positive too even if some of them were a bit one dimensional and predictable. Sometimes. For me though, the negatives far outweighed the positives. I didn't like how he twisted just about every thread into a Francis V Rick one. I thought it was a bit worrying his total hatred of Francis and I also didn't like how others would often be ridiculed for not sharing his opinion or for not as being as "enlightened" as he was. The over use of the "LOL" feature is a case in point. For some reason, he found it difficult to be respectful and more often than not, played the "I'm a victim" card. That was all unnecessary. It's a shame though because for a while when he was first on the board his posts were interesting and usually worth reading and I got on well with him after a bit of a shaky start. Oh what could haven been.
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Post by mortified on Nov 26, 2017 13:22:15 GMT
A bit late to the party I suppose but..... I've been away for a week and had limited access to the MB (phone only, forgot my glasses ) and I'm not surprised that we are now one member down. I honestly feel that the departed one could have been a genuinely positive presence around here. For instance, he was very knowledgeable regarding bootlegs and I think he helped some on here in that regard. The creation of threads was a positive too even if some of them were a bit one dimensional and predictable. Sometimes. For me though, the negatives far outweighed the positives. I didn't like how he twisted just about every thread into a Francis V Rick one. I thought it was a bit worrying his total hatred of Francis and I also didn't like how others would often be ridiculed for not sharing his opinion or for not as being as "enlightened" as he was. The over use of the "LOL" feature is a case in point. For some reason, he found it difficult to be respectful and more often than not, played the "I'm a victim" card. That was all unnecessary. It's a shame though because for a while when he was first on the board his posts were interesting and usually worth reading and I got on well with him after a bit of a shaky start. Oh what could haven been. He certainly livened the place up a bit when he first came on. It had been very quiet round here; dull even. Mainly because Quo weren't really doing much but also because there was a general lack of interest; something that I think is creeping into Quo's world generally so their 'rest' year is probably not a bad thing. However, the negative jibes that began to surface encouraged many others to run to the band's defence so, in that respect, we have a lot to thank him for. It showed that there is still some passion out there. Positive passion. Unfortunately, the negative aspects also began to get more personal and a line has to be drawn. You hope it will be voluntary but, more often than not, it isn't. So, who you gonna call? The Baminator
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Post by The Lord Flasheart on Nov 26, 2017 16:38:37 GMT
A bit late to the party I suppose but..... I've been away for a week and had limited access to the MB (phone only, forgot my glasses ) and I'm not surprised that we are now one member down. I honestly feel that the departed one could have been a genuinely positive presence around here. For instance, he was very knowledgeable regarding bootlegs and I think he helped some on here in that regard. The creation of threads was a positive too even if some of them were a bit one dimensional and predictable. Sometimes. For me though, the negatives far outweighed the positives. I didn't like how he twisted just about every thread into a Francis V Rick one. I thought it was a bit worrying his total hatred of Francis and I also didn't like how others would often be ridiculed for not sharing his opinion or for not as being as "enlightened" as he was. The over use of the "LOL" feature is a case in point. For some reason, he found it difficult to be respectful and more often than not, played the "I'm a victim" card. That was all unnecessary. It's a shame though because for a while when he was first on the board his posts were interesting and usually worth reading and I got on well with him after a bit of a shaky start. Oh what could haven been. I like him as well I know his obsessions make him hard work at times but he's never been rude to me. He does liven things up and you can get a bit of banter going maybe we are all still raw at Rick's passing and the way that Francis goes about things, as is his wish. I know one thing though you won't find him on the other board that's one certainty.
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Post by smokie on Nov 26, 2017 23:21:16 GMT
A bit late to the party I suppose but..... I've been away for a week and had limited access to the MB (phone only, forgot my glasses ) and I'm not surprised that we are now one member down. I honestly feel that the departed one could have been a genuinely positive presence around here. For instance, he was very knowledgeable regarding bootlegs and I think he helped some on here in that regard. The creation of threads was a positive too even if some of them were a bit one dimensional and predictable. Sometimes. For me though, the negatives far outweighed the positives. I didn't like how he twisted just about every thread into a Francis V Rick one. I thought it was a bit worrying his total hatred of Francis and I also didn't like how others would often be ridiculed for not sharing his opinion or for not as being as "enlightened" as he was. The over use of the "LOL" feature is a case in point. For some reason, he found it difficult to be respectful and more often than not, played the "I'm a victim" card. That was all unnecessary. It's a shame though because for a while when he was first on the board his posts were interesting and usually worth reading and I got on well with him after a bit of a shaky start. Oh what could haven been. He certainly livened the place up a bit when he first came on. It had been very quiet round here; dull even. Mainly because Quo weren't really doing much but also because there was a general lack of interest; something that I think is creeping into Quo's world generally so their 'rest' year is probably not a bad thing. However, the negative jibes that began to surface encouraged many others to run to the band's defence so, in that respect, we have a lot to thank him for. It showed that there is still some passion out there. Positive passion. Unfortunately, the negative aspects also began to get more personal and a line has to be drawn. You hope it will be voluntary but, more often than not, it isn't. So, who you gonna call? The Baminator I'm not suggesting that Quo are reaping what they have sown (perhaps I am) but I don't think there's any doubt that there IS a general apathy from various long standing fans these days and for a whole lot of various reasons. I don't think we have to go over them again. Passion in anything is a good thing as long as that passion isn't altered to aggression and that was sometimes the case on here recently. I don't agree with everything that I read on here and equally there's certainly one or perhaps more on here who seldom agree with me and probably don't have much time for me but I can handle that. As long as the debate remains cordial and respectful then I don't see a problem. C'est la vie.
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Post by snakelady on Nov 27, 2017 8:06:32 GMT
Exactly, Gary, that's what it's all about on here- discussing all things Quo in a respectful manner. Basically that's the only rule we have and is needed on here: Treat fellow mb-members and band members alike respectfully. Whether you like them or agree with them is irrelevant. Many of us approach Quo from differing angles, but that's what makes discussions interesting - or even possible in the first place. Else we'd always have just the one post and everybody else would simply 'like' it. The band has certainly provided enough action - or no action - over the last year that could be perceived and interpreted controversially. IMO a lot of mistakes have been made, although they were mainly management mistakes and not musically. The one big criticism I do direct towards the band is the set list - in general and in detail - which Rick songs to keep/re-introduce. As Gary has said - we've already talked about every tiny aspect of all that though. And we seem to just not be the type of people who come up with new topics easily. They're just not important enough for us and 'new' is relative in Quo terms. There can't be much left that hasn't been talked about before (and in most cases numerous times) on this or the previous mbs. Or maybe we're just not passionate enough any longer ? Nothing sinister about that - I guess it at least to a degree simply comes with age .. So I've got to admit I'm impressed, that the other interview has managed to create 6 pages of comments Now where's the gig reports so we've got something really new to discuss ..
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