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Post by Rick Roper on Jun 18, 2017 17:48:18 GMT
Sums up Francis Rossi's stance for me about Rick... "Oh dear, what a shame... But business as usual, I've suddenly changed my mind about packing it all in". So the friction between Rick & Francis must have been pretty major... We know that Rick was getting pissed off with the direction of things... But now Francis has completely his own way, it's his band now - He can go unchallenged in what the band's direction is, and I suspect will continue to milk the bandwagon now for all it's worth.
And no, I'm not a Rossi hater. I am just able to read what's being said in various places, and assemble some kind of picture of the man. But at the moment, it's not a nice picture.
Rick Roper.
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Post by mortified on Jun 19, 2017 6:14:14 GMT
Sums up Francis Rossi's stance for me about Rick... "Oh dear, what a shame... But business as usual, I've suddenly changed my mind about packing it all in". I thought that was a direct quote. Thankfully, it isn't. I know what you mean but I tend to see him more as pragmatic and his point about the crew and their families isn't lost on me. Whether I'll be tagging along as well is still up for grabs.
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Post by smokie on Jun 21, 2017 12:14:40 GMT
I think Francis comes across pretty well in that interview.
Not only is he honest but considerate too.
@inna, thanks for posting this as I'd have never come across this otherwise.
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Post by craydarr on Jun 22, 2017 5:21:25 GMT
I think the comment about keeping as many of the crew on is interesting, I remember reading a very similar comment by B.B.King when he was still touring well into his 80's.
I think it shows the responsibility that artists / Rossi shoulder to keep the business rolling.
Maybe that was always big the difference between Rossi n Parfitt, Rossi saw the business side more than Parfitt.
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Post by reasonforliving on Jun 27, 2017 19:40:59 GMT
I think it has become acreasingly apparent to Francis for quite some time (long before Christmas) that this is not only his day to day salary, it will contribute to his pension as well. Although when the band started, it was a gang of lads having some fun and becoming good mates and I guess they were doing it for us. Now it is a business - full stop. If Status Quo PLC (or whatever) doesn't make money from whatever they do, it is not just the band that can't afford to sustain their lifestyles, it also affects a lot of other people as well.
I don't have any idea how the buisness works, but I assume in reality it is the promoters that largely call the shots. If they thing they can make money from a show then they will book the band.
Its a shame but I think it is the reality and I think Francis is just telling it the way it is.
All IMVHO!
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Post by snakelady on Jun 28, 2017 6:55:28 GMT
I think it has become increasingly apparent to Francis for quite some time (long before Christmas) that this is not only his day to day salary, it will contribute to his pension as well. Although when the band started, it was a gang of lads having some fun and becoming good mates and I guess they were doing it for us. Now it is a business - full stop. If Status Quo PLC (or whatever) doesn't make money from whatever they do, it is not just the band that can't afford to sustain their lifestyles, it also affects a lot of other people as well. I don't have any idea how the business works, but I assume in reality it is the promoters that largely call the shots. If they thing they can make money from a show then they will book the band. Its a shame but I think it is the reality and I think Francis is just telling it the way it is. All IMVHO! Agree about all of that Plus the young lads in the 60s and 70s didn't care about responsibility. They probably felt none. They made more money than they had ever dreamed of for themselves, were successful and had fun and never wasted a thought on anything else. These days with so much competition out there and records not making money, it's probably a lot more complicated to survive for an old band at that level - to stay on the shortlists of promoters and get enough bookings for the big venues/occasions. Many older bands have to play much smaller venues or support other acts ..
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Post by pressbutton on Jul 6, 2017 12:54:26 GMT
I think it has become acreasingly apparent to Francis for quite some time (long before Christmas) that this is not only his day to day salary, it will contribute to his pension as well. Although when the band started, it was a gang of lads having some fun and becoming good mates and I guess they were doing it for us. Now it is a business - full stop. If Status Quo PLC (or whatever) doesn't make money from whatever they do, it is not just the band that can't afford to sustain their lifestyles, it also affects a lot of other people as well. I don't have any idea how the buisness works, but I assume in reality it is the promoters that largely call the shots. If they thing they can make money from a show then they will book the band. Its a shame but I think it is the reality and I think Francis is just telling it the way it is. All IMVHO! To me that was one of the best things Francis said - some people seem to think he is uncaring but he obviously does care about the crew and has a sense of responsibility for them. I also think that he cared for Rick, but Rick's refusal to modify his lifestyle exasperated Francis. Once Rick had his heart attack Francis seems to have accepted that it was only a matter of time before the inevitable happened, and whilst this was sad it was expected. Francis is a realist - I don't think some of the fans see it that way.
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Post by mortified on Jul 6, 2017 13:42:48 GMT
I think it has become acreasingly apparent to Francis for quite some time (long before Christmas) that this is not only his day to day salary, it will contribute to his pension as well. Although when the band started, it was a gang of lads having some fun and becoming good mates and I guess they were doing it for us. Now it is a business - full stop. If Status Quo PLC (or whatever) doesn't make money from whatever they do, it is not just the band that can't afford to sustain their lifestyles, it also affects a lot of other people as well. I don't have any idea how the buisness works, but I assume in reality it is the promoters that largely call the shots. If they thing they can make money from a show then they will book the band. Its a shame but I think it is the reality and I think Francis is just telling it the way it is. All IMVHO! Francis is a realist - I don't think some of the fans see it that way. Most of us/them are probably very far from being realists. Many are even fantasists. That's been evident for quite a while. The bottom line is, any decision about following or liking the band as it is now is ours and ours alone. Criticism and opinion from outside the box are all very well but it doesn't change anything. The 'insecure little show offs' thing stands true, much as it we've heard it so often. They want to be loved - don't we all? But they're not remotely bothered whether they're loved by a big, hairy bloke in denim or by an elderly lady in a knitted cardigan. It's actually irrelevant. It always has been. Although I'd never have said that in 1981
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