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Post by quomnauk on Nov 19, 2013 21:38:18 GMT
Rokcing ronnie set up a site about 3 yeras ago. The aim was to get musos posting about qou secrets. Sadly a lot people vashied into thin Air. hardcorequo was great poster there, as i seen videos there, it got me insoired to try and hear in a differnt way( They weird on BEL cover i aked to Join hardcorequo( Jim) and Jamiie. What can i say working with to great playesr, so humbled to take part in that project Anway this site has TABS, links to tab sites Video lessons ( ermm i have tried my best with these videos) Status quo tunings Other members quo covers. There penty on interviews Over the 3 yeasrs i tried add any links to quo equimnet. I think i have done as much as i can for site below( been posting for 3 years, nearly every week) Time for me to take a back seat, and just work on the Bass( as i have to learn new tricks :lolflg: statusquoforum.com/aef/index.php?oh this is good site
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Post by hardcorequo on Nov 19, 2013 22:14:16 GMT
Gordon. Like many things it starts ok then sort of fades away. I am surprised that few players. Quo players that is, don`t seem to bother discussing the technicalities of Quo songs. Looking through some videos on YT does proves that the vast majority of us who play Quo music have much to learn. It is most annoying to watch folk who think they can`t be criticised making a right mess of many Quo songs. I once tried the constructive approach and was always most willing to talk about how improvements could be made by all of us but that was instantly seen as having a go! Above any form of suggestion even! If Quo players want to keep repeating the same mistakes and choose to ignore the basics like tunings, chord sequences, the right strings and even how to shuffle properly then there is hardly much hope. Rick suggests that playing low on the fret board and perfecting the chord shapes is paramount before you can move on and get adventurous, eg, picking the chord shapes over the 6 strings.Dropping half or full step. Tuning to an open chord and use of the capo. I see concrete evidence of some who think they are good not even able to do this. Ignorance is bliss. That`s up to those who won`t try to improve, yet still want the praise. They won`t get that from me, it has to be earned,not given away. If i`m struggling with a particular song or section i will ask those i consider to be better than me at playing Quo. No shame in that at all. That is what helps to improves your playing ultimately. To much ego, to little wisdom is what`s out there. To avoid the certainty of ego driven bigheads pointing the finger i will use a Quo band who no longer exist. "On The Level" As a first class example of getting it right and sounding very, very convincing indeed. Was that by accident or slap dash attitude? No and never. It was the result of impeccable attention to detail and an open mind on how to improve. No egos. No attitude. Just great blokes doing what they loved and proving the point beyond doubt. They were way to modest to say anything though. Very refreshing. To this day i have seen nothing that rivals them. Some ok. Some good. Some utterly dreadfull.
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Post by quomnauk on Nov 19, 2013 23:17:16 GMT
I must hadn to to rocking ronnie for trying to get musos envolved.
I soppose people just prefer to play that yak about muso stuff.And maybe indiviuels just don`t want say anthing as they don`t want cuase upset with other players. But there choice at the end of the day.
Jim as you say about "On The Level" that they spend the time listing and thinking and redoing to they get it right.
I will admit that fustraction can creep in as a player, when a pasege sound wrong (or can`t get to fit )( I know that feeling all to well) then i think that how playes lose there way, me included( as with TABS, i try to caputure it , but i know musical that something is not workking, Break the rules( as i have relided that missed a triplet feel, but that was learned through a mock drum track, but just goes show how a tiny mistake can cause a lot of bother, then i would have adopt something to fit a bar( not very clever)
Like comming and going
i took an wild gues as on how to play the main riff, I may be wrong in thinking that i could tune up 1,2,3 and 4th strings up by 1/2 step. Then i tuned the 5th up C( not a good idea, but it had be done) and the 6th down to C.
That would be an example of my way thinking ( but did i use my ears correctky ??, just an instinct,and for me it seem logical)
But if i had to do that in trib band, then i may have done it wrongkym then other ideas could be wrong. Then it would siral form there
When i have tring lessons, sometimes i listing a while latter and think that is sos wrong. Then that begs a question, was i lazy or somehow i have gained experince.
End of the day we all hear and think differnly, some people are qucik to notice or not.
Well the site had a profound effect on my way of thinmking, as result some weird tuninss came out of it.
But i do still ask questitions, i will admit i no bright spark when it comes down to crunch.
Rick for me it hard to replicate, i just belive we all sound like ourselves. If had to try Ricks personel rig, we would all sound differnt ( just like Hand writing and so on). when i started to play Guitar i was so disapointed that i could sound or feel like the Rick.
At the end of that Day it all matter of peronel taste and aproach. The way of the world.
3 years ago i thought that i was the oddball tyring to figure out quo music. Since i had learned quo songs from TABS, i thought that i would try to make TABS. That was my way of giving something back, then i seen that there was a lack of taling videos, hence i thought i would try some, then i juest kept going.
. But i know my place, if can`t do better then who am i to jugde others( and if i ever thought that i was better than every one, then i would have a seriuos ego, i just hope that i opned mind to music)and try to commnnet as they come.
well 3 year on and at leat there is place for the qou tuning ( as there was nothing out there before, that has be worth something.
Take care Jim, i will look foward to next task from Jamie, and just a pleasure to take part.
Roking site made that happen, if it not for the site, no tabs , videos, discussiona and meeting other people in person.
And now this site for next genaration of quo playesr, that might keep us on our toes. Good luck to them.
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Post by jamielotustech on Nov 20, 2013 18:08:57 GMT
Gordon I think one of the main factors concerning the RR site is that the interest in Quo is sadly in decline, yep there are still a fair amount interested in general, but its mainly an older (ish) generation fan base and their is only a small proportion of young folk that even know who Status Quo are!, and as the older fans die away or stop being "active" fans they are not gaining new fans in any great numbers to replace them, so I doubt that sites like RR, as good as it is, will ever become highly popular, its just the way it is mate, popularity peaks and then drops away, I think Quo probably peaked a long time back if truth be told. Then you combine that with the fact that (certainly from my own perspective) there are very few folk who play Quo stuff that will discuss technicalities of the music etc , For example I have put a good few posts up with my Videos discussing the idiosyncrasies of certain solos for example and apart from the "great stuff" "well played" type of comment (which is appreciated btw) there is rarely any other players who will come in and discuss, share knowledge or ask questions even. Why that is im not sure, on other forums I have been on "Satriani" being one in particular people will discuss all manner of stuff and share knowledge, Quo players on the other hand often seem to have this attitude of "Im keeping what I know all to myself", I really don't know why that is, I mean playing Quo stuff 2nd hand is not something that is going to make anyone a superstar or rich by any stretch of the imagination no matter how well you can imitate it, that's why im happy to share what ive learned for all its worth and even do slowed down versions for folk. We just have to be grateful for the legacy that Quo has left us and be thankful it has lasted this long At the end of the day Gordon, Forums/Tribute bands/Lone players etc can only ever play 2nd fiddle to the Original Quo music we love. Long live the Quo!.
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Post by quomnauk on Nov 20, 2013 19:38:33 GMT
All ^^^ true. I think down to experiences on open Forums and the web it self, that may put of people off putting on comments" good or bad" , then egos start to clash, as people do I nature if they are wrong , but would they admit it??
Like some members of trib bands do the talking( and some just don`t post anything).
But at least we can share thoughts to others out there. Like in work there someone asked said the he liked my videos( Long story as he is driver and different hours from me). But it made me think that punters have a better understanding of music than we do.
Jamie as you say about you own videos of the solo`s, if I had sharper ear, then I would make a comment , hence I rely on feeling of solos, and so far I can`t think of anything that has way of, in mu head I hear Francis playing the solo, then listing to you videos, and think I can`t fault them.
But the main thing if people like yourself and James post videos, then I inspire others to share stuff. I sure we all get private emails asking question or do videos. Then I think we have made a difference and encouraged other people to try quo music, then it keep quo music alive.
I know in last 3 years it has led me join in with other players, discuss stuff. There some great young people playing quo music on YouTube. I am pleased for them.
But at least internet can bring people together, as opposed to mid 90`s with no internet. Then people started to make up tabs, then YouTube came along, more forums. So I think we are living in Golden age for sharing music.
To the future generation we salute you all. Bit like Matrix we are waiting for the one!
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Post by snakelady on Nov 21, 2013 9:01:39 GMT
I've been to Ronnie's site and I think it's great what he has put up there. But I'm not a muso, so I don't notice any technicalities or subtleties in playing. It either sounds good to me or not and sometimes I can see room for improvement. I do appreciate what guys like you do, try to keep the music 'alive' and pass it on to those interested in learning how to play properly - even though I can only say 'great' or click the 'like' button. I guess most fans are like me. That's why you'll get so very few posts on sites or sections like this, but a fair amount of views on the threads ..
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Post by quomanuk on Nov 21, 2013 10:45:59 GMT
Thanks Snakelady. "It either sounds good to me or not and sometimes I can see room for improvement. " well put. For me that sums what we try get across.
That it either sounds good or bad. What I have found over the years it is hard to replicate a studio sound, and I`m not that people like yourself might think that sound nothi9ng like the record.
For example Bad company Intro riff. Hear was the problem the chords sounded right , but on play back I though this is not making sencs, right I thought lets try again and again, same result. Hear comes the bomb shell a 18 string! ( Guitar normally 6 and 12 string, but 18 strings). Hence the due that 18 string guitar makes it different. A quo fans resoponce might be that is thumbs down , a muso point is frustration in getting the right tone.
To me music is like Silence, like Brain cox Dr xmass special. All explained with out the mathematics. I think muso is like that , we play the song, but we don`t bore the public with inner workings.
Thanks again snakelady for taking time to reply to this boring muso stuff. End of day quo oh oh !
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