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Post by cammythemortonfan on Aug 22, 2019 22:43:23 GMT
John, if you read this, I’m sure that I echo the thoughts of many fans when I say that I’m really enjoying these videos you are posting on YouTube regarding the RAOTE remix.
I just want to say say a simple thank you and say it’s appreciated 👍👍
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Post by snakelady on Aug 23, 2019 7:23:24 GMT
Yep, nice to see that the number of subscribers has gone up to well over 300 by now. .. and John keeps putting up new videos all the time.
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 23, 2019 22:48:44 GMT
Remember tagging? That makes it easier to notify somebody! pupcious
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Post by pupcious on Aug 31, 2019 16:49:18 GMT
John, if you read this, I’m sure that I echo the thoughts of many fans when I say that I’m really enjoying these videos you are posting on YouTube regarding the RAOTE remix. I just want to say say a simple thank you and say it’s appreciated 👍👍 Thank you Cammy and everyone that has subscribed to my YouTube channel, almost at 350 maybe 2000 was rather optimistic ! But keep spreading the word. I’m encouraged by all the brilliant feedback. Once I’ve completed the transfer clips for reel 3 and 4 I’ll get back to the song breakdowns. Things did take a turn on the future tape transfer clips and I’ll share what happened. Of course you all know there was a « happy ending » as you got the completed Remix !
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Aug 31, 2019 22:30:42 GMT
John, if you read this, I’m sure that I echo the thoughts of many fans when I say that I’m really enjoying these videos you are posting on YouTube regarding the RAOTE remix. I just want to say say a simple thank you and say it’s appreciated 👍👍 Thank you Cammy and everyone that has subscribed to my YouTube channel, almost at 350 maybe 2000 was rather optimistic ! But keep spreading the word. I’m encouraged by all the brilliant feedback. Once I’ve completed the transfer clips for reel 3 and 4 I’ll get back to the song breakdowns. Things did take a turn on the future tape transfer clips and I’ll share what happened. Of course you all know there was a « happy ending » as you got the completed Remix ! Thanks for all these videos John. Very informative and enjoyable.
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Post by snakelady on Sept 1, 2019 6:49:33 GMT
John, if you read this, I’m sure that I echo the thoughts of many fans when I say that I’m really enjoying these videos you are posting on YouTube regarding the RAOTE remix. I just want to say say a simple thank you and say it’s appreciated 👍👍 Thank you Cammy and everyone that has subscribed to my YouTube channel, almost at 350 maybe 2000 was rather optimistic ! But keep spreading the word. I’m encouraged by all the brilliant feedback. Once I’ve completed the transfer clips for reel 3 and 4 I’ll get back to the song breakdowns. Things did take a turn on the future tape transfer clips and I’ll share what happened. Of course you all know there was a « happy ending » as you got the completed Remix ! Half of the time (at least !) I don't have a clue what you're talking about, but I still enjoy watching. Message boards no longer reach that many people - we're far from 1000 members as you can see. I suppose a lot more fans can be reached through facebook these days. So if you could get the link to your channel included on the official Quo fb site (and the Quo homepage too) you'd probably reach a lot more fans. Don't know who's running them these days though - is it still Paxo ?
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Post by per on Sept 2, 2019 7:57:29 GMT
John Eden: I’ve just seen the long clip about remixing Rockers Rollin’ and it is absolutely amazing! I can’t find the words to tell you how happy and grateful I am to see (and hear) these fantastic clips! Your remix brought back life to the RAOTW album and now these film clips makes it even more alive and even more interesting! I really do hope we can have such long clips for every song. Once again many many thanks for sharing this pieces of rock history with us!
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Post by quolion on Sept 2, 2019 9:35:53 GMT
Hi John, very emotional for me too... What an excellent insight of recording & mixing QUO's Music. I can’t even find the right words to tell you how grateful I am. Passion comes to mind....
Thanks for taking the time. Just brilliant and it's a real shame that nobody (except you) are really interested in a REMIX of IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT. We know it's down to financial reasons!!! So did you ever think about a crowd founding project to finance a new Re-Mix of the IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT album? Also I'm sure a Download Remix would be okay for us too.
By the way; did you remixed other stuff from JUST SUPPOSIN' or NEVER TOO LATE just for fun and your own pleasure? Is a Re-Mix possible without any master tapes these days? (Special Software)
Cheers John and take care mate!
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2019 10:46:11 GMT
Is a Re-Mix possible without any master tapes these days? (Special Software) Remix can't be done without the individual stems for the tracks... There are ways of isolating or removing vocals but it won't sound massively different to the original release and wouldn't be considered a remix. Getting the stems straight from the tape gives you the ability to play around with the individual tracks more freely. It probably made it easier for the Rockin' remix to happen seeing as the tapes were in Rossi's studio and not the Universal vaults, which I'm fairly certain is where the Heat tapes reside Cheers
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Post by quolion on Sept 2, 2019 10:52:34 GMT
Yeah, you‘re right Luke but I think John did some re-work on What you’re Proposing and it sounded brilliant. This question comes to my mind because of the lost of thousands of Universal master tapes recently.
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Post by quolion on Sept 2, 2019 10:57:17 GMT
...does it mean that the full version (includes the lost intro) of Accident Prone will be on the Universal master reels?
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2019 11:03:05 GMT
...does it mean that the full version of Accident Prone will be on the Universal master reels? Yeah there's something that intrigues me on the WYW reels also, titled "Turkish Tantrum" More than likely John C throwing a fit haha
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2019 11:04:14 GMT
Yeah, you‘re right Luke but I think John did some re-work on What you’re Proposing and it sounded brilliant. This question comes to my mind because of the lost of thousands of Universal master tapes recently. The ones that went up in flames in a fire 10 years ago in America? Non of Quo's reels were stored there I can assure you that
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Post by quolion on Sept 2, 2019 11:05:16 GMT
I'm sure John could give us more insight...please!
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Post by per on Sept 2, 2019 12:16:03 GMT
Is a Re-Mix possible without any master tapes these days? (Special Software) Remix can't be done without the individual stems for the tracks... There are ways of isolating or removing vocals but it won't sound massively different to the original release and wouldn't be considered a remix. Getting the stems straight from the tape gives you the ability to play around with the individual tracks more freely. It probably made it easier for the Rockin' remix to happen seeing as the tapes were in Rossi's studio and not the Universal vaults, which I'm fairly certain is where the Heat tapes reside Cheers I visited a lecture at Abbey Road some weeks ago and they showed an invention which actually makes it possible to remix old recordings without the master tapes. As an example they played a live clip of ”She Loves You” where you more or less couldnt hear Georges guitar, and then they played the separated guitar! You could hear it perfect! They used that technique on the Beatles live album which was released 2-3 years ago and it sounds great! (Sorry, but I dont remember the name of the innovation)
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2019 12:23:11 GMT
Remix can't be done without the individual stems for the tracks... There are ways of isolating or removing vocals but it won't sound massively different to the original release and wouldn't be considered a remix. Getting the stems straight from the tape gives you the ability to play around with the individual tracks more freely. It probably made it easier for the Rockin' remix to happen seeing as the tapes were in Rossi's studio and not the Universal vaults, which I'm fairly certain is where the Heat tapes reside Cheers I visited a lecture at Abbey Road some weeks ago and they showed an invention which actually makes it possible to remix old recordings without the master tapes. As an example they played a live clip of ”She Loves You” where you more or less couldnt hear Georges guitar, and then they played the separated guitar! You could hear it perfect! They used that technique on the Beatles live album which was released 2-3 years ago and it sounds great! (Sorry, but I dont remember the name of the innovation) I know there's thing you can do by playing around with the EQ and mixing out the frequencies of a certain instrument... it all depends really. Either way, straight from the original tapes is better off If you remember what it was at all... let me know!
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Post by mortified on Sept 2, 2019 12:30:58 GMT
There's also the question of actually wanting something remixed. Rockin' was done for a specific reason in terms of the original sound, especially on vinyl. The issues stuck out like a sore thumb and always had. The sound on every other album is largely OK and presumably pretty much as intended. OK, albums like Heavy Traffic could do with a remaster and there are other albums where I've read about there being 'compression' problems but I'd be surprised if any others were to be remixed. Not that I'd complain if they were of course. Remixed albums always feel like getting new material to these untrained ears
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2019 12:45:38 GMT
There's also the question of actually wanting something remixed. Rockin' was done for a specific reason in terms of the original sound, especially on vinyl. The issues stuck out like a sore thumb and always had. The sound on every other album is largely OK and presumably pretty much as intended. OK, albums like Heavy Traffic could do with a remaster and there are other albums where I've read about there being 'compression' problems but I'd be surprised if any others were to be remixed. Not that I'd complain if they were of course. Remixed albums always feel like getting new material to these untrained ears I hope you meant remix for Heavy Traffic Cause a remaster wouldn't do much sound wise haha I think (And John please correct me if I am wrong, pupcious) the Rockin' remix was done without Universals knowledge, or from what I've heard.
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Post by mortified on Sept 2, 2019 14:00:42 GMT
There's also the question of actually wanting something remixed. Rockin' was done for a specific reason in terms of the original sound, especially on vinyl. The issues stuck out like a sore thumb and always had. The sound on every other album is largely OK and presumably pretty much as intended. OK, albums like Heavy Traffic could do with a remaster and there are other albums where I've read about there being 'compression' problems but I'd be surprised if any others were to be remixed. Not that I'd complain if they were of course. Remixed albums always feel like getting new material to these untrained ears I hope you meant remix for Heavy Traffic Cause a remaster wouldn't do much sound wise haha I think (And John please correct me if I am wrong, pupcious ) the Rockin' remix was done without Universals knowledge, or from what I've heard. I did actually mean remaster. Or certainly cleaned up a bit. It sounds a bit dull compared to more recent releases and remasters. But remastered or remixed; either way, just something to improve it a bit. I'm no technical wizard and a lot of the stuff discussed is like a foreign language so forgive what might seem like daft comments from a musical/audio retard
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 2, 2019 14:06:11 GMT
I hope you meant remix for Heavy Traffic Cause a remaster wouldn't do much sound wise haha I think (And John please correct me if I am wrong, pupcious ) the Rockin' remix was done without Universals knowledge, or from what I've heard. I did actually mean remaster. Or certainly cleaned up a bit. It sounds a bit dull compared to more recent releases and remasters. But remastered or remixed; either way, just something to improve it a bit. I'm no technical wizard and a lot of the stuff discussed is like a foreign language so forgive what might seem like daft comments from a musical/audio retard I think Heavy Traffic would be better off with a remix, to fix the p*ss poor mixing done for the original release... however, if you wait long enough, a remaster for it is planned. Cheers
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Post by quolion on Sept 2, 2019 18:30:50 GMT
A Re-Mix of IF YOU CAN‘T STAND THE HEAT will work again because I can‘t stand all the brass, horns and the dominated female vocals. Now John, from your point of view, is a new Re-Mix for IYCSH necessary and on your wish list...? Cheers!
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Post by viking55 on Sept 3, 2019 9:29:20 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed watching the Rockers Rollin remix clip on John’s YouTube Chanel this morning. Was emotional just watching John get emotional over it. It took me a while to get used to the album remix but I much prefer it now. Maybe I hesitated because I was so used to the original album it felt strange. These insights from John add so much to the enjoyment of the remix. Just watching Johns nodding head on the playback was a joy. Feeling it the way we all do ! Cheers John.
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Post by per on Sept 3, 2019 16:58:00 GMT
I visited a lecture at Abbey Road some weeks ago and they showed an invention which actually makes it possible to remix old recordings without the master tapes. As an example they played a live clip of ”She Loves You” where you more or less couldnt hear Georges guitar, and then they played the separated guitar! You could hear it perfect! They used that technique on the Beatles live album which was released 2-3 years ago and it sounds great! (Sorry, but I dont remember the name of the innovation) I know there's thing you can do by playing around with the EQ and mixing out the frequencies of a certain instrument... it all depends really. Either way, straight from the original tapes is better off If you remember what it was at all... let me know! I found this link, here’s info about technique, named De-mix: www.abbeyroad.com/de-mix
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 3, 2019 19:20:31 GMT
I know there's thing you can do by playing around with the EQ and mixing out the frequencies of a certain instrument... it all depends really. Either way, straight from the original tapes is better off If you remember what it was at all... let me know! I found this link, here’s info about technique, named De-mix: www.abbeyroad.com/de-mixI see it's an in-house technique that isn't available elsewhere, but you can get consultations on how to go about doing it. Seems to be a series of EQ'ing and messing around with the frequency bands like I thought it would be. Very interesting however, so I might dig deeper into that! Cheers Per!
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Post by Quoincidence on Sept 3, 2019 20:15:06 GMT
I've just had a quick mess around with the Back To Back album and done a stereo mix. Managed to bring the guitars more to the front, as opposed to them being buried underneath everything. Done both Ol' Rag Blues and Mess Of Blues for now, and they sound great through a good set of speakers. Will get them posted somewhere.
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