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Post by snakelady on Nov 21, 2016 10:01:50 GMT
Basically the two were about the same - the band announcing that we'd not see them touring as a rock band again. They'd not dissolve completely though.
Back in '84 that was big news with a huge final show at Milton Keynes and it was filmed for posterity.
Compared to that I can't help but think that the LNOTE tour is treated a lot more low key. Basically like every other tour they did in recent years. The usual radio and newspaper promo is done, a few shows are recorded and sold at the venue and even the set is about the same too. No filming announced so far either ..
It just doesn't feel like a last ever tour. Even with (or maybe because of ?) Rick not participating who'd have been needed to really celebrate the occasion, there's not much difference to their business as usual and we know that it had to all be planned before Rick's heart attack.
So the question for me is - why ?
And the only explanation I can come up with is, that something big had (still has ?) been planned for next year.
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Post by smokie on Nov 21, 2016 11:39:05 GMT
I've been thinking much the same for a few weeks now. I know things have changed now that Rick has had to retire but there doesn't feel to be anything special about this tour compared to any other from the past few years, just another tour. The significance for us fans is massive but that hasn't seemed to register with the powers that be? I don't know when the tour was booked and with no disrespect intended, I thought if it was indeed to be the very last show of the electric tour, then that would have been recognised with the choice of a (famous) venue to finish with? Why Liverpool? Why not Birmingham where the 1982 video was recorded? Or the O2 in London? Somewhere that's special, somewhere like the Royal Albert Hall in London? I don't suppose any of these were available when the tour was planned.
As for filming/recording of the last night in Liverpool, I don't see the point as Rick is unable to take part, now it's just something else to sell. Because Rick is not there, it wouldn't be special, or hold the attraction that it would have if Rick had been able to perform, for me anyway.
Which leads to next year? Can Rick come back for one last electric performance? I'd buy that but I'm not sure I'd be buying a "Rickless" recording of the LNOTE.
Is the big thing for 2017 going to be the Aquostic boat tour thing in Australia? Do you think the plan was to record that with a concert dvd, a documentary/behind the scenes lone too and hope that that would sell in numbers?
What could the "big thing" be for 2017? Francis has said that he doesn't want to do anymore FF. An electric album seems unlikely. I'm looking forward to the proposed solo albums but is there something else? Could it be the much dreaded (for me anyway) The Status Quo Musical in a theatre in London's West End? That was muted a few years ago, wasn't it? I think either Francis or Rick said then that there wouldn't be any point in putting such a show on whilst the band were still on the road. Could this be it? |
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Post by mortified on Nov 21, 2016 12:00:21 GMT
What could the "big thing" be for 2017?....Could it be the much dreaded (for me anyway) The Status Quo Musical in a theatre in London's West End? That was muted a few years ago, wasn't it? I think either Francis or Rick said then that there wouldn't be any point in putting such a show on whilst the band were still on the road. Could this be it? Much dreaded for me as well. To me, its not that "big" a thing because I don't think it would be popular in the same way as, say, the Queen or Madness equivalents. Personally, I detest these sorts of shows. I can't stick theatre musicals. Or even film musicals if I'm honest. But they don't take decisions just to please me. They'll see a bigger picture. And most likely a bigger audience. Not convinced myself though. The movie they made was artistically skraping (it won't let me spell it any other way :rolleyes: ) the bottom of the barrel. Whether it was successful financially (and I do not mean at the box office!) I have no idea. Some films are made and its academic if it attracts the punters or not. Its where they're made and the financial and tax incentives (inducements?) for doing so that count. I think Rick's situation has had a bearing on the whole 'feel' of not only this last tour but also on the recent album that was released. It has all been very low key, as you say. Perhaps that's the way it should be, almost out of respect. Although I'm cynical enough to doubt that. However, the gigs - and the album - have had good reviews so they'll be happy with that. I don't see the "Rock The Boat" thing being the big event either. That's been out of the bag for months. Maybe it'll all be as pie in the sky as the much touted Trafalgar Square gig a few years back.  |
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Nov 21, 2016 14:07:17 GMT
What could the "big thing" be for 2017?....Could it be the much dreaded (for me anyway) The Status Quo Musical in a theatre in London's West End? That was muted a few years ago, wasn't it? I think either Francis or Rick said then that there wouldn't be any point in putting such a show on whilst the band were still on the road. Could this be it? Much dreaded for me as well. To me, its not that "big" a thing because I don't think it would be popular in the same way as, say, the Queen or Madness equivalents. Personally, I detest these sorts of shows. I can't stick theatre musicals. Or even film musicals if I'm honest. But they don't take decisions just to please me. They'll see a bigger picture. And most likely a bigger audience. Not convinced myself though. There have been very few musicals that I have liked, apart from West Side Story, Porgy and Bess, Little Shop of Horrors and Grease, but I went to see "Sunny Afternoon" which was the story of the Kinks and it was excellent. The music fitted in so well to the story line and it flowed, never boring or repetitive, a real drama which gripped, not a vehicle to string well known songs together. |
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Post by snakelady on Nov 25, 2016 7:39:28 GMT
Much dreaded for me as well. To me, its not that "big" a thing because I don't think it would be popular in the same way as, say, the Queen or Madness equivalents. Personally, I detest these sorts of shows. I can't stick theatre musicals. Or even film musicals if I'm honest. But they don't take decisions just to please me. They'll see a bigger picture. And most likely a bigger audience. Not convinced myself though. There have been very few musicals that I have liked, apart from West Side Story, Porgy and Bess, Little Shop of Horrors and Grease, but I went to see "Sunny Afternoon" which was the story of the Kinks and it was excellent. The music fitted in so well to the story line and it flowed, never boring or repetitive, a real drama which gripped, not a vehicle to string well known songs together. This ! I don't get this exessive inventing of new musicals either. Seems like every band that existed for a decade, every Disney fim have to be turned into a musical these days. These films are based on children's books and I consider them films for children mainly, so why on earth keep adults in their 1000s even book short holidays to see those musicals ? The music isn't exactly worth mentioning either .. IMVHO it's simply a money-making machinery, same as all those casting competitions .. There is indeed a huge difference compared to the older musicals like Annie Get Your Gun or the ones mentioned above, concerning the quality of story and music, which I more see in the tradition of operettas (which I love), albeit with a tragic ending sometimes. |
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Post by smokie on Nov 29, 2016 17:50:44 GMT
Probably wasting my time here but when these dates were announced, it was wildly publicised at that time that "no more electric tours would be booked".
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