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Post by snakelady on Aug 3, 2016 6:37:07 GMT
Because it was terrible and should never have been released by Quo or anybody else? Because it instantly kills the atmosphere at any live gig? Just a thought!.. Wrong on all accounts...you've obviously never been to a Quo gig in Germany. I've mentioned it a few times before .. We once went to a Quo tribute opening for a death metal band. While they played the rockier Quo songs like BFM, Down Down or ROLD the crowd merely showed mild interest (apart from the obvious Quo fans ), but when they played Army everybody went berserk, mosh pit and all. Similar during RAOTW. We left after the support btw. ..
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Aug 4, 2016 12:06:09 GMT
How are the new songs? Also, I'm wondering about the acoustic arrangement of ITAN. I mean there must have been a reason why it wasn't on Volume 1. Because it was terrible and should never have been released by Quo or anybody else? Because it instantly kills the atmosphere at any live gig? Just a thought!.. How can you say that a song that went to number 2 in the UK chart and number 1 in other countries (by a very 'untrendy' band) should never have been released!! There's obviously a hell of a lot of people who do like the song. What you mean is you don't like it. That doesn't mean it shouldn't have been released, or even that Quo shouldn't play it. It is your opinion, not fact.
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Post by gentlemanjoe on Aug 4, 2016 16:32:20 GMT
Well my opinion then.
Based on The gigs I'vee been to over past 25 years..when its been played it stops a large section of the audience in it's tracks, then the tempo and atmosphere picks up when its done.
Thats just my observation and personal opinion though. Chart positions mean nothing to me. And No I don't like it at all, I think its a dirge, some do, fair enough, but can only report what I've seen myself.(never been to European gigs so cant comment).
Thankyou.
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Post by snakelady on Aug 5, 2016 6:35:59 GMT
Well my opinion then. Based on The gigs I'vee been to over past 27years..when its been played it stops a large section of the audience in it's tracks, then the tempo and atmosphere picks up when its done. Thats just my observation and personal opinion though. Chart positions mean nothing to me. And No I don't like it at all, I think its a dirge, some do, fair enough, but can only report what I've seen myself.(never been to European gigs so cant comment). Thankyou. Yep, I think it's quite different in the UK compared to the continent. In the UK Quo were big much earlier and were seen as on a downward slide with RAOTW already and even more so when punk and the new romantics took over in the 80s. On the mainland it was different, Quo became known from mid-70s and really big with RAOTW . And that led to the Live-album selling in droves too, not the other way round. In '78 due to the strength of the RAOTW album Quo were voted best band of the year by numerous TV music formats and teenage magazines. The development that followed was quite different too: i.e. the most successful single from IYCSTH was Accident Prone and WYW merely charted rather lowly. During the 80s German speaking countries had a musical phenomenon called Neue Deutsche Welle (remember Nena ?) that dominated the charts and all old 70s bands disappeared from them. All but Quo ! I may have hated SBYBIL, Dear John or The Wanderer, but amazingly Quo remained a relevant band. And ITAN brought them their 2nd peak and their only No.1 in Germany, something even RAOTW hadn't achieved. Why ? Because that song and its lyrics hit exactly the anti-military, anti-war .. feelings that were and still are big in many countries on the continent. The stance towards their armies in these countries are very different to yours. While you see it as something positive and soldiers are deemed heroes, here it is seen as a necessary evil and soldiers are considered potential murderers. People on the continent had actually experienced ground war and its consequences, so that stance is widely spread and not just in Germany (don't know about France though). Hope this helps to explain why ITAN is so popular and kind of an anthem for larger parts of society, that otherwise have never heard of Quo.
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Post by I Ain't Complaining on Aug 5, 2016 12:25:10 GMT
Well my opinion then. Based on The gigs I'vee been to over past 25 years..when its been played it stops a large section of the audience in it's tracks, then the tempo and atmosphere picks up when its done. Thats just my observation and personal opinion though. Chart positions mean nothing to me. And No I don't like it at all, I think its a dirge, some do, fair enough, but can only report what I've seen myself.(never been to European gigs so cant comment). Thankyou. What I meant about the chart positions is that a hell of a lot of people must like it because of the amount of records that it sold (whether or not they are at an average Quo gig, who knows)? It will naturally change the atmosphere of a Quo gig because of the type of song it is. Is that not the same for any 'slower' song that Quo play? Did that not happen when the FF played April, Spring, Summer Wednesdays (ASSW) as well?
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Post by HighVoltage on Aug 6, 2016 14:56:29 GMT
a little bit off, but "Shine on you crazy Diamond" is a masterpiece, but noone will headbang and jump around to that song (unless you have smoked quite a bit, but then again, you're off yourself!)
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Post by frame66 on Aug 6, 2016 20:42:15 GMT
Never liked the song. Its same with burning bridges. Works here in UK but not overseas
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Post by elvis57 on Aug 8, 2016 10:21:12 GMT
ITAN goes over just fine in concert. I didn't like Aquostic and find it strange that the new album coming out before the `final electrics tour is acoustic. I'll buy it, mainly for the new tracks, but i would have preferred a real rock album as a finale.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 11:11:02 GMT
Quo have been a bit "quirky" in recent years when it came to the timing of new releases and tours. Just think of the release of Bula Quo and the tour of the original band being announced at the same time. Hooray!! Anyway, I've already pre-ordered the CD and I'm looking forward to it. I liked Aquostic 1 very much, even if it wasn't really "stripped bare" as it said on the cover. I expect number 2 to sound different now, perhaps more bluesy and truly unplugged. I know the violins will be back, but that's fine with me. I enjoyed them on A1, but I could really do without the accordion and the backing singers. And so could Porter and Rossi if they are planning on touring it
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Post by snakelady on Aug 10, 2016 7:09:09 GMT
What you all got against accordions ? I played it a long time ago, in a youth accordion orchestra. (including 'classics' like Oh La Paloma Blanca or Harmonica Echo :lolflg: )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2016 12:28:08 GMT
It reminds me of Romanian gypsies and I have an opinion of them I best keep to myself
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Post by quodlibet aka granny on Aug 10, 2016 13:50:40 GMT
What you all got against accordions ? I played it a long time ago, in a youth accordion orchestra. (including 'classics' like Oh La Paloma Blanca or Harmonica Echo :lolflg: ) Lots of accordions in Germany!!!
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 10, 2016 19:12:40 GMT
a little bit off, but "Shine on you crazy Diamond" is a masterpiece, but noone will headbang and jump around to that song (unless you have smoked quite a bit, but then again, you're off yourself!) Or drunk quite a bit...
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 10, 2016 19:15:41 GMT
What you all got against accordions ? I played it a long time ago, in a youth accordion orchestra. (including 'classics' like Oh La Paloma Blanca or Harmonica Echo :lolflg: ) Best accordion number ever:
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Post by snakelady on Aug 11, 2016 7:08:34 GMT
What you all got against accordions ? I played it a long time ago, in a youth accordion orchestra. (including 'classics' like Oh La Paloma Blanca or Harmonica Echo :lolflg: ) Best accordion number ever: That's Quo's Rollin' Home recycled !
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Post by HighVoltage on Aug 11, 2016 14:07:30 GMT
What you all got against accordions ? I played it a long time ago, in a youth accordion orchestra. (including 'classics' like Oh La Paloma Blanca or Harmonica Echo :lolflg: ) Best accordion number ever: For me it's this one - that's how an accordeon should sound if played in a rock band!
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 11, 2016 15:08:50 GMT
Best accordion number ever: That's Quo's Rollin' Home recycled ! Wat?
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 11, 2016 15:13:25 GMT
Best accordion number ever: (...) Agree, frozenhero, it's a great little number, and the accordion fits in really well, but then The Hooters are great live and use quite a few instruments that are off-beat. There are other instruments I don't like apart from the accordion (well, most times) - the saxophone, the trumpet, sometimes the piano or the Hammond organ. I do love the violins, the fiddle, the cello, the harp (also blues, Celtic, ...), the mandolin, well, all of the strings, really. I wonder how 'unplugged' Aquostic2 will really be... I like saxophones. My father plays the alto saxophone. John Helliwell from Supertramp played some of the most beautiful sax parts. Pink Floyd have also used it well in a few songs. The Hooters also use saxophone sometimes (Nervous Night). Lots of saxophone on blues records as well (B.B. King etc.) and even a lot of early rock 'n roll. Most instruments, when you think about it, are acoustic instruments. Of course that's not what acoustic albums are usually about but as long as you avoid electric guitar/bass and organs, you can fill them with any instrument you want... I wonder whether Andy Bown will crawl into the grand piano with a guitar pick to do that plinky sound in "Ice in the Sun"!
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Post by snakelady on Aug 12, 2016 8:40:12 GMT
That's Quo's Rollin' Home recycled ! Wat? The instrumental bit at the start - am I the only one to hear that it's the exact same melody ? :dunce:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 10:54:05 GMT
It is rumoured that there are advance promo copies of Aquostic 2 doing the rounds, havent heard it myself yet, but I am curious about the 3 new songs which will appear on the album
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Post by frame66 on Aug 13, 2016 10:14:22 GMT
For me the 3 new songs sounds like something that Frame digged up from his and Bernies vault. Im not impressed. Sorry for that;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 12:21:59 GMT
The instrumental bit at the start - am I the only one to hear that it's the exact same melody ? :dunce: Nope, your spot on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 6:41:56 GMT
For me the 3 new songs sounds like something that Frame digged up from his and Bernies vault. Im not impressed. Sorry for that;) I pre ordered Aquostic 2 for the 3 new songs on it so Im hoping thats not gonna be the case, but I reckon its very likely to be ???
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Post by frozenhero on Aug 24, 2016 16:17:58 GMT
The instrumental bit at the start - am I the only one to hear that it's the exact same melody ? :dunce: The instrumental bit at the start - am I the only one to hear that it's the exact same melody ? :dunce: Nope, your spot on I had to play both songs on the piano to really get behind what's going on. The chord sequence is identical up to a point, the melody isn't and neither is the rhythm. Additionally: The Hooters released their song in 1987, Rollin' Home is from 1985. While it's possible that The Hooters had heard Quo at that point, it's rather unlikely since Quo were never that big in the US. The chord sequence is I-IV-I-V, a very simple and very often used one. I'm pretty sure that 'How Long' by The Eagles uses a similar one at some point, to name one example. Similar yes, but not identical.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 17:06:25 GMT
The instrumental bit at the start - am I the only one to hear that it's the exact same melody ? :dunce: I had to play both songs on the piano to really get behind what's going on. The chord sequence is identical up to a point, the melody isn't and neither is the rhythm. Additionally: The Hooters released their song in 1987, Rollin' Home is from 1985. While it's possible that The Hooters had heard Quo at that point, it's rather unlikely since Quo were never that big in the US. The chord sequence is I-IV-I-V, a very simple and very often used one. I'm pretty sure that 'How Long' by The Eagles uses a similar one at some point, to name one example. Similar yes, but not identical. Have you run out of nits to pick or something?
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