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Post by frozenhero on Nov 20, 2019 11:52:07 GMT
STOP THE PRESS!
It seems as if MMEB will NOT be supporting in Karlsruhe.
Manfred's own site does NOT mention the gig. In fact the Earth Band is playing in Karlsruhe a few weeks later at the Tollhaus. I simply can't see them doubling up like this.
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Post by snakelady on Nov 21, 2019 8:37:47 GMT
STOP THE PRESS!It seems as if MMEB will NOT be supporting in Karlsruhe. Manfred's own site does NOT mention the gig. In fact the Earth Band is playing in Karlsruhe a few weeks later at the Tollhaus. I simply can't see them doubling up like this. It's not the press, it's from the ticket agency: link .. I can't see them selling tickets under false pretence and get away with it ?
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Post by frozenhero on Dec 4, 2019 9:26:17 GMT
That's just a term that popped into my head.
Anyway, Manfred Mann's Earth Band are definitely not playing with Quo at this gig. I specifically asked through his fanclub / archive website and Nigel Stanworth confirmed this to me. This is also why I decided to go see them next week. (New MMEB album due in 2020!)
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Post by snakelady on Dec 5, 2019 8:23:49 GMT
That's just a term that popped into my head. Anyway, Manfred Mann's Earth Band are definitely not playing with Quo at this gig. I specifically asked through his fanclub / archive website and Nigel Stanworth confirmed this to me. This is also why I decided to go see them next week. (New MMEB album due in 2020!) Very strange indeed ..
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Post by frozenhero on Dec 18, 2019 14:32:20 GMT
Not so strange given that they have their own solo gig on November 13 in Karlsruhe. New album should be out until then, by the way
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Post by snakelady on Dec 19, 2019 9:28:15 GMT
Not so strange given that they have their own solo gig on November 13 in Karlsruhe. New album should be out until then, by the way I meant strange in the sense that the ticket agency had published the name (looks like it's been deleted by now). They could've gone with t.b.a. Would've been perfect for us too. The first (Quo) gig we took our boys along to when they were still very small was at the same venue with MM's EB supporting. Kind of full circle ..
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Post by frozenhero on Dec 25, 2019 11:00:53 GMT
MMEB are just as bad with setlists as Quo are - arguably even worse. At least the concert in Heilbronn was very inspired with solos etc. (and a full version of Blinded by the Light!) I hope this changes with the new album that comes out...
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Post by snakelady on Feb 4, 2020 7:56:23 GMT
MMEB are just as bad with setlists as Quo are - arguably even worse. At least the concert in Heilbronn was very inspired with solos etc. (and a full version of Blinded by the Light!) I hope this changes with the new album that comes out... Looks like MM'sEB are supporting for part of the tour though, including Frankfurt, so that might swing it - it's not that much further away. The setlist isn't an issue for us as we haven't seen him for over a decade. As long as he still plays Martha's Madman I shall be happy . I'd be over the moon if California was included, but as he didn't play it last time .. Actually I'd happily take all of the Watch album. Better get the tickets asap now. I've noticed first gigs are already sold out or as near as ..
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Post by frozenhero on Feb 12, 2020 11:12:42 GMT
MMEB are just as bad with setlists as Quo are - arguably even worse. At least the concert in Heilbronn was very inspired with solos etc. (and a full version of Blinded by the Light!) I hope this changes with the new album that comes out... Looks like MM'sEB are supporting for part of the tour though, including Frankfurt, so that might swing it - it's not that much further away. The setlist isn't an issue for us as we haven't seen him for over a decade. As long as he still plays Martha's Madman I shall be happy . I'd be over the moon if California was included, but as he didn't play it last time .. Actually I'd happily take all of the Watch album. Better get the tickets asap now. I've noticed first gigs are already sold out or as near as .. No dice. I've just spent money on Saga's comeback tour, which is not even a month away. Also, MMEB are playing together with The Hooters in Esslingen, which is even closer then Karlsruhe is. Frankfurt is just too far away for two bands that are both coming nearer to me, considering having to stay overnight is only an option for *very* special occasions. If Quo had not announced Karlsruhe I might have considered it... MMEB did play Martha's Madman, but honestly, I yawned through it. There wasn't much excitement in it. They should cut it down to the LP length, would free up the space to play one more song. California was never played live at all, I think - Chris Thompson hated the song and he was the only singer who could do it justice! WATCH is still the most heavily represented with all three songs from side 2 (but none from side 1, which Manfred himself once called "the studio side", hinting at the fact that it's more difficult to play those songs in a live context, although "Chicago Institute" was played back in the day).
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Post by snakelady on Feb 13, 2020 7:45:05 GMT
Looks like MM'sEB are supporting for part of the tour though, including Frankfurt, so that might swing it - it's not that much further away. The setlist isn't an issue for us as we haven't seen him for over a decade. As long as he still plays Martha's Madman I shall be happy . I'd be over the moon if California was included, but as he didn't play it last time .. Actually I'd happily take all of the Watch album. Better get the tickets asap now. I've noticed first gigs are already sold out or as near as .. No dice. I've just spent money on Saga's comeback tour, which is not even a month away. Also, MMEB are playing together with The Hooters in Esslingen, which is even closer then Karlsruhe is. Frankfurt is just too far away for two bands that are both coming nearer to me, considering having to stay overnight is only an option for *very* special occasions. If Quo had not announced Karlsruhe I might have considered it... MMEB did play Martha's Madman, but honestly, I yawned through it. There wasn't much excitement in it. They should cut it down to the LP length, would free up the space to play one more song. California was never played live at all, I think - Chris Thompson hated the song and he was the only singer who could do it justice! WATCH is still the most heavily represented with all three songs from side 2 (but none from side 1, which Manfred himself once called "the studio side", hinting at the fact that it's more difficult to play those songs in a live context, although "Chicago Institute" was played back in the day). Well, he'd have to play Mighty Quinn and Davy, no matter what - they are his RAOTW and Army .. What I'd love to hear is some of the earlier 60s stuff like Fox On The Run or My Name Is Jack. He'll never do it sadly and not sure the style would fit in with the latter stuff anyway, so Spirits In The Night & co. it is - I don't mind. I don't mind longer instrumental versions either, although I'd prefer to get them from Quo .. .
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Post by mortified on Feb 13, 2020 8:53:28 GMT
Just as a matter of interest, frozenhero and snakelady, who is the lead vocalist with Manfred Mann's Earth Band these days? When I saw them support Quo in the UK in 2008 it was Noel McCalla. Which really interested me at the time because he had been the vocalist with John Coghlan's Partners in Crime in the 80's. I think I also saw him with a band called Moon way, WAY back on a tour featuring the bands Crawler (Paul Kossoff's solo vehicle) and Boxer. I still have the EP from the gig, sad old sod that I am If it's still Mr McCalla, forgive an old man for wallowing in 70's nostalgia
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 3, 2020 19:27:10 GMT
Just as a matter of interest, frozenhero and snakelady , who is the lead vocalist with Manfred Mann's Earth Band these days? When I saw them support Quo in the UK in 2008 it was Noel McCalla. Which really interested me at the time because he had been the vocalist with John Coghlan's Partners in Crime in the 80's. I think I also saw him with a band called Moon way, WAY back on a tour featuring the bands Crawler (Paul Kossoff's solo vehicle) and Boxer. I still have the EP from the gig, sad old sod that I am If it's still Mr McCalla, forgive an old man for wallowing in 70's nostalgia Noel left about ten years ago! He was at first replaced by Pete Cox (Go West) and then in 2011, Robert Hart joined and has been there ever since. He's also going on the Rock Meets Classic tour this year and will be singing some MMEB as well as Bad Company hits, since he was Paul Rodgers' second successor in that band. Nice chap - I had the pleasure of meeting him at the gig in Heilbronn. He comes out before and after the gig and says "I'll sign anything"! Personally, I don't like his voice as much as Noel's, but he's got more stage presence and charisma than Noel had, and he can certainly get a crowd going. This was two days after the concert I saw: I don't think that's the full performance though - it usually takes about 15 minutes to get done!!
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Post by mortified on Mar 4, 2020 5:19:33 GMT
Just as a matter of interest, frozenhero and snakelady , who is the lead vocalist with Manfred Mann's Earth Band these days? When I saw them support Quo in the UK in 2008 it was Noel McCalla. Which really interested me at the time because he had been the vocalist with John Coghlan's Partners in Crime in the 80's. I think I also saw him with a band called Moon way, WAY back on a tour featuring the bands Crawler (Paul Kossoff's solo vehicle) and Boxer. I still have the EP from the gig, sad old sod that I am If it's still Mr McCalla, forgive an old man for wallowing in 70's nostalgia Noel left about ten years ago! He was at first replaced by Pete Cox (Go West) and then in 2011, Robert Hart joined and has been there ever since. He's also going on the Rock Meets Classic tour this year and will be singing some MMEB as well as Bad Company hits, since he was Paul Rodgers' second successor in that band. Nice chap - I had the pleasure of meeting him at the gig in Heilbronn. He comes out before and after the gig and says "I'll sign anything"! Personally, I don't like his voice as much as Noel's, but he's got more stage presence and charisma than Noel had, and he can certainly get a crowd going. This was two days after the concert I saw: I don't think that's the full performance though - it usually takes about 15 minutes to get done!! Pete Cox? Great voice but never had him down as this sort of singer. Robert Hart I don't really know. But ta for the info and the vid The only other time I saw Manfred Mann's Earth Band was in 1976 when, of course, Chris Thompson would have been the vocalist. Supported by Racing Cars as I recall. Anyone remember them? One hit wonders in the UK with They Shoot Horses Don't They?
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 4, 2020 11:09:05 GMT
mortified I've heard that song. Been a while though. Chris Thompson in his prime was one of the best rock singers period, IMO. But sadly he's overused it to a point where it sounds awful Mick Rogers, Colin Pattenden and Mike Keneally are playing as "Solar Fire" (and will be playing that album in full!) at the Night of the Prog, I think. If they could get Manfred and Chris Slade on board it would be a full reunion of the original (pre-Chris) band!
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Post by mortified on Mar 4, 2020 11:17:01 GMT
mortified I've heard that song. Been a while though. Chris Thompson in his prime was one of the best rock singers period, IMO. But sadly he's overused it to a point where it sounds awful Mick Rogers, Colin Pattenden and Mike Keneally are playing as "Solar Fire" (and will be playing that album in full!) at the Night of the Prog, I think. If they could get Manfred and Chris Slade on board it would be a full reunion of the original (pre-Chris) band! Just get Paul Jones on board and have a proper reunion
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 4, 2020 11:52:42 GMT
That's another different era!
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Post by snakelady on Mar 6, 2020 6:59:37 GMT
Got to say, I've always considered the 60s Pretty Flamingo/My Name Is Jack/ .. MMEB and the 70s Blinded By The Light/California/.. version two entirely different bands. Which I both like incidentally, although I prefer the one with the longer instrumentals. The band that's been going since for me have been kind of 70s successor line-ups with the various singers. Which makes Chris the definite MMEB's singer for me, although I'm aware why he had to go ..
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Post by frozenhero on Mar 10, 2020 23:18:18 GMT
Got to say, I've always considered the 60s Pretty Flamingo/My Name Is Jack/ .. MMEB and the 70s Blinded By The Light/California/.. version two entirely different bands. Which I both like incidentally, although I prefer the one with the longer instrumentals. The band that's been going since for me have been kind of 70s successor line-ups with the various singers. Which makes Chris the definite MMEB's singer for me, although I'm aware why he had to go .. That's the mistake right there. The Earth Band was formed in 1972. From the early 60s to 1969, it was simply "Manfred Mann" - although later divide into two distinct eras, the one with Paul Jones fronting (5-4-3-2-1, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, Pretty Flamingo, If You Gotta Go...) and the one with Mike D'abo on vocals and Klaus Voormann on bass (Mighty Quinn, Ha Ha Said the Clown, My Name is Jack, Fox on the Run, etc.). It's a tad bit unfair to measure the band by their pop singles though, since they also did R&B and and some very good jazz instrumentals (especially in the short period when Jack Bruce was on bass). This band eventually quietly dissolved while Manfred and Mike Hugg (drummer of the earlier incarnations) started Manfred Mann Chapter Three. This was a radical departure, some very inaccessible yet fascinating jazz rock with lots of horns, completely unique sounding and not very successful... but I'm glad I finally bought their two albums (plus all the "Radio Days" rarities CDs that came out last year). Eventually Manfred decided he wanted to be a bit more accessible. The new band consisted of him, Mick Rogers, Colin Pattenden and Chris Slade and soon became known as MMEB. They made six! albums in that constellation, almost all of which are wonderful (but only one hit single - Joybringer), before Mick departed and Chris Thompson/Dave Flett came in - and suddenly MMEB were a big name. That early MMEB line-up is the equivalent to the FF, if you like. They were an unbelievable band. I wish I'd seen them!
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Post by mortified on Mar 11, 2020 7:50:01 GMT
Alas, frozenhero, I'm old enough to remember the original Manfred Mann in the mid to late 60's, although I was but a child I followed Paul Jones a bit when he put together The Blues Band back in the late 70's and I bought their 'official bootleg' album. Joybringer and the album it came from ( Solar Fire) was very popular when I was at school but I guess it was Blinded By The Light that transported the band to fame and fortune. Never understood a word of Springsteen's lyrics But it was on that tour ( The Roaring Silence) that I went to see them. I bought the single and consequently the album but I was never that keen on it. In fact, the only album I now have in my possession is Angel Station. I love the tracks Don't Kill It Carol (a single here I think) and Angels At My Gate. This seems to be becoming the MMEB appreciation thread
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Post by mortified on Mar 11, 2020 7:54:49 GMT
Incidentally, just as an aside, I downloaded what I thought was an interesting Manfred Mann album a few years back called The Lone Arranger. I don't know an awful lot about it but it sounds like a collection of rearrangements and remixes and it's actually very good. There's a brilliant version of T. Rex's Get It On entitled Bang A Gong. Sounds like Chris Thomson on vocals but I could be completely wrong. I'd recommend it if anyone hasn't heard it
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Post by kursaal75 on Mar 11, 2020 7:58:32 GMT
Incidentally, just as an aside, I downloaded what I thought was an interesting Manfred Mann album a few years back called The Lone Arranger. I don't know an awful lot about it but it sounds like a collection of rearrangements and remixes and it's actually very good. There's a brilliant version of T. Rex's Get It On entitled Bang A Gong. Sounds like Chris Thomson on vocals but I could be completely wrong. I'd recommend it if anyone hasn't heard it Bang A Gong was the title of the US release of T Rex's Get It On
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Post by snakelady on Mar 11, 2020 8:14:39 GMT
Got to say, I've always considered the 60s Pretty Flamingo/My Name Is Jack/ .. MMEB and the 70s Blinded By The Light/California/.. version two entirely different bands. Which I both like incidentally, although I prefer the one with the longer instrumentals. The band that's been going since for me have been kind of 70s successor line-ups with the various singers. Which makes Chris the definite MMEB's singer for me, although I'm aware why he had to go .. That's the mistake right there. The Earth Band was formed in 1972. From the early 60s to 1969, it was simply "Manfred Mann" - although later divide into two distinct eras, the one with Paul Jones fronting (5-4-3-2-1, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, Pretty Flamingo, If You Gotta Go...) and the one with Mike D'abo on vocals and Klaus Voormann on bass (Mighty Quinn, Ha Ha Said the Clown, My Name is Jack, Fox on the Run, etc.). It's a tad bit unfair to measure the band by their pop singles though, since they also did R&B and and some very good jazz instrumentals (especially in the short period when Jack Bruce was on bass). This band eventually quietly dissolved while Manfred and Mike Hugg (drummer of the earlier incarnations) started Manfred Mann Chapter Three. This was a radical departure, some very inaccessible yet fascinating jazz rock with lots of horns, completely unique sounding and not very successful... but I'm glad I finally bought their two albums (plus all the "Radio Days" rarities CDs that came out last year). Eventually Manfred decided he wanted to be a bit more accessible. The new band consisted of him, Mick Rogers, Colin Pattenden and Chris Slade and soon became known as MMEB. They made six! albums in that constellation, almost all of which are wonderful (but only one hit single - Joybringer), before Mick departed and Chris Thompson/Dave Flett came in - and suddenly MMEB were a big name. That early MMEB line-up is the equivalent to the FF, if you like. They were an unbelievable band. I wish I'd seen them! You know, I had actually originally written MM/MMEB .. I'm aware they were different line-ups with different singer, the point is simply, that I consider them different bands, which you do too, obviously. Deep Purple is another example - basically at least two different bands as well (and no, I don't have a clue who's a band member these days or has been over the last decades ..).
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Post by mortified on Mar 11, 2020 8:24:55 GMT
Incidentally, just as an aside, I downloaded what I thought was an interesting Manfred Mann album a few years back called The Lone Arranger. I don't know an awful lot about it but it sounds like a collection of rearrangements and remixes and it's actually very good. There's a brilliant version of T. Rex's Get It On entitled Bang A Gong. Sounds like Chris Thomson on vocals but I could be completely wrong. I'd recommend it if anyone hasn't heard it Bang A Gong was the title of the US release of T Rex's Get It On I never knew that
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Post by mortified on Mar 11, 2020 8:30:34 GMT
That's the mistake right there. The Earth Band was formed in 1972. From the early 60s to 1969, it was simply "Manfred Mann" - although later divide into two distinct eras, the one with Paul Jones fronting (5-4-3-2-1, Do Wah Diddy Diddy, Pretty Flamingo, If You Gotta Go...) and the one with Mike D'abo on vocals and Klaus Voormann on bass (Mighty Quinn, Ha Ha Said the Clown, My Name is Jack, Fox on the Run, etc.). It's a tad bit unfair to measure the band by their pop singles though, since they also did R&B and and some very good jazz instrumentals (especially in the short period when Jack Bruce was on bass). This band eventually quietly dissolved while Manfred and Mike Hugg (drummer of the earlier incarnations) started Manfred Mann Chapter Three. This was a radical departure, some very inaccessible yet fascinating jazz rock with lots of horns, completely unique sounding and not very successful... but I'm glad I finally bought their two albums (plus all the "Radio Days" rarities CDs that came out last year). Eventually Manfred decided he wanted to be a bit more accessible. The new band consisted of him, Mick Rogers, Colin Pattenden and Chris Slade and soon became known as MMEB. They made six! albums in that constellation, almost all of which are wonderful (but only one hit single - Joybringer), before Mick departed and Chris Thompson/Dave Flett came in - and suddenly MMEB were a big name. That early MMEB line-up is the equivalent to the FF, if you like. They were an unbelievable band. I wish I'd seen them! You know, I had actually originally written MM/MMEB .. I'm aware they were different line-ups with different singer, the point is simply, that I consider them different bands, which you do too, obviously. Deep Purple is another example - basically at least two different bands as well (and no, I don't have a clue who's a band member these days or has been over the last decades ..). It's funny, but I never ever considered Deep Purple to be anything other than just the one band. Different line ups even from very early on and, briefly in the mid to late 70's, a different style but I always just thought of them as Deep Purple. Not sure what the line up is these days. Steve Morse on guitar I think if he's still fit enough. He did have issues with his hand. They were supposed to have done their final tour a couple of years back (I know coz sis went to see them) but I see they're back on the road this winter. Remind you of anyone?
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Post by snakelady on Mar 11, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
You know, I had actually originally written MM/MMEB .. I'm aware they were different line-ups with different singer, the point is simply, that I consider them different bands, which you do too, obviously. Deep Purple is another example - basically at least two different bands as well (and no, I don't have a clue who's a band member these days or has been over the last decades ..). It's funny, but I never ever considered Deep Purple to be anything other than just the one band. Different line ups even from very early on and, briefly in the mid to late 70's, a different style but I always just thought of them as Deep Purple. Not sure what the line up is these days. Steve Morse on guitar I think if he's still fit enough. He did have issues with his hand. They were supposed to have done their final tour a couple of years back (I know coz sis went to see them) but I see they're back on the road this winter. Remind you of anyone? Interesting. For me the band that recorded say Hush and the guys that came up with Highway Star didn't have much in common. And DP dissolved mid-70s !
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